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So after hearing about Barotix, i decided to check the Greece ban list for the hell of it...one of my academy members is on there! He's not a botter, he was only level 24 for christ sake! It has nothing to do with inactive accounts, he's on every single day, more than i am. I dont understand how Joymax could think he was a goldbot either, he never grinded in goldbotter territory and 80% of the time the only exp he got was from me power leveling him in the ong field. This is completly f*cked up and wrong! His first char got hacked, and Joymax did nothing about it when he emailed them. Now he makes a new char and he gets banned for no reason at lvl 24. Joymax is really starting to screw up now and it's making me mad. Even legits aren't safe from bans anymore, GG Joymax you certainly know how to ruin a game.
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ulquiorra wrote:So after hearing about Barotix, i decided to check the Greece ban list for the hell of it...one of my academy members is on there! He's not a botter, he was only level 24 for christ sake! It has nothing to do with inactive accounts, he's on every single day, more than i am. I dont understand how Joymax could think he was a goldbot either, he never grinded in goldbotter territory and 80% of the time the only exp he got was from me power leveling him in the ong field. This is completly f*cked up and wrong! His first char got hacked, and Joymax did nothing about it when he emailed them. Now he makes a new char and he gets banned for no reason at lvl 24. Joymax is really starting to screw up now and it's making me mad. Even legits aren't safe from bans anymore, GG Joymax you certainly know how to ruin a game.


They just put 3500 names in a GIANT hat and pick out names blindfolded. Then they check to see if the person who pulled out has bought silk. If the final answer is no, they get banned =) (this isn't true before anyone flames me. I know people who have bought silk have been banned)

Botting isn't the only reason people get banned. Modified media.pk2's, impersonating a GM or having two clients on at the same time on the same pc (or even possible just under the same IP) is enough to get banned.

However, we can all see from Barotix's case that people are banned randomly. Does it give a reason why he was banned? (thats if you keep in touch with him outside of sro)
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if you get caught buying gold you get banned, maybe he did that?
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yeah i have his Xfire, i'm def gunna ask him about it the next time he logs on, and no he didn't have modded PK2's or anything, he was just a lil noob trying to play the game :banghead:
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brentonsbbe359 wrote:if you get caught buying gold you get banned, maybe he did that?


who buys gold at lvl 24 :? . He was just starting the game, he didn't know anything, i was trying to teach him.
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they dont just ban people cuz they dont buy silk, thats ridiculos, you abviusly used 1 3rd part program and u got banned for it
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brentonsbbe359 wrote:if you get caught buying gold you get banned, maybe he did that?


It's very hard to prove if someone is buying gold though. I have transfered masses gold between accounts about two or three times and I wouldn't expect to be banned for it.

Let's just see what JM's reason for the ban is.

Verfo wrote:they dont just ban people cuz they dont buy silk, thats ridiculos, you abviusly used 1 3rd part program and u got banned for it


Do you even read posts? It wasn't him that got banned, it was his guild mate. And if you read the whole of my post you would see that I added something on to stop people from flaming me after I said that people who don't buy silk get banned -.-
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Kieran wrote:people who don't buy silk get banned -.-

see thats just plain Stupid, because if so, then why is no accounts of mine are banned, i have never bought silk and i never got banned, if u were saying is true then 1/2 the population of sro would get banned
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Verfo wrote:
Kieran wrote:people who don't buy silk get banned -.-

see thats just plain Stupid, because if so, then why is no accounts of mine are banned, i have never bought silk and i never got banned, if u were saying is true then 1/2 the population of sro would get banned
iam sry but ur point of vie fails


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Pham wrote:
Verfo wrote:
Kieran wrote:people who don't buy silk get banned -.-

see thats just plain Stupid, because if so, then why is no accounts of mine are banned, i have never bought silk and i never got banned, if u were saying is true then 1/2 the population of sro would get banned
iam sry but ur point of vie fails


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Kieran wrote:this isn't true before anyone flames me. I know people who have bought silk have been banned


OMG LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU POST, he already stated that he was joking. There should be a ban for anyone on this forum that reads under 2nd graders level....unfortunatley you two would be banned :roll:


And Verfo i already said it wasn't ME that got banned, it was a friend of mine and i know he's legit because he just started the game and he duzn't know how to do anything illegal yet. I really hope that "learning a new language" in your sig, is english.
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I don't know, but I'm not taking chances, I put silk on my stall char (going to use it for globals I guess) and I also bought $5 worth of silk for a few guild members accounts that are unable to buy silk, so they don't get unfairly banned just because they are unable to pay2play

I think Joymax is trying to push out all the regular players, cheaters, and anyone that spends a good amount of time playing the game that does not buy silk. Reasoning behind this is they probably want to see if they can force these people to buy silk, or just get rid of all the people clogging server, so when they do stop the weekly bannings the server will fill up with even more gold bots, whether you believe it or not, I believe either joymax is in contract with most these gold farmers, or they are sister companies.
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Verfo wrote:
Kieran wrote:people who don't buy silk get banned -.-

see thats just plain Stupid, because if so, then why is no accounts of mine are banned, i have never bought silk and i never got banned, if u were saying is true then 1/2 the population of sro would get banned
iam sry but ur point of vie fails


Why the hell did you quote part of what I said? The whole sentence is totally different from that quote. Here's what I said:

Kieran wrote:They just put 3500 names in a GIANT hat and pick out names blindfolded. Then they check to see if the person who pulled out has bought silk. If the final answer is no, they get banned =) (this isn't true before anyone flames me. I know people who have bought silk have been banned)


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Kieran wrote:And if you read the whole of my post you would see that I added something on to stop people from flaming me after I said that people who don't buy silk get banned -.-


You've forced me to go off topic now! READ THE WHOLE DAMN POST!
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I think he used some 3rd program, maybe multiclient or NoDcClient??
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i just read 1st post thats it
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sparta_sword wrote:I don't know, but I'm not taking chances, I put silk on my stall char (going to use it for globals I guess) and I also bought $5 worth of silk for a few guild members accounts that are unable to buy silk, so they don't get unfairly banned just because they are unable to pay2play

I think Joymax is trying to push out all the regular players, cheaters, and anyone that spends a good amount of time playing the game that does not buy silk. Reasoning behind this is they probably want to see if they can force these people to buy silk, or just get rid of all the people clogging server, so when they do stop the weekly bannings the server will fill up with even more gold bots, whether you believe it or not, I believe either joymax is in contract with most these gold farmers, or they are sister companies.



I tried to prove that a while ago and the theory was an epic fail of massive proportions.
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sparta_sword wrote:I don't know, but I'm not taking chances, I put silk on my stall char (going to use it for globals I guess) and I also bought $5 worth of silk for a few guild members accounts that are unable to buy silk, so they don't get unfairly banned just because they are unable to pay2play

I think Joymax is trying to push out all the regular players, cheaters, and anyone that spends a good amount of time playing the game that does not buy silk. Reasoning behind this is they probably want to see if they can force these people to buy silk, or just get rid of all the people clogging server, so when they do stop the weekly bannings the server will fill up with even more gold bots, whether you believe it or not, I believe either joymax is in contract with most these gold farmers, or they are sister companies.


er...didn't you just prove your own point? aren't u doing exactly what joymax wants by starting to buy silk? :banghead:

rofl if more people have your mentallity you can kiss all non buying silk accounts bye bye.


This is a Tyranny, Joymax being the Tyrant and us the lowly peasants. Unless your willing to stand against it they are just gunna walk all over you. Granted only like 15% of the population actually uses SRF, but ya know, if your not part of the solution your part of the problem =). My lvl 80 is inactive right now because i'm playing Age of Conan, it would be nice to be able to come back to my char in a few months and start farming again but at this rate without anymore silk purchases and the random bans that SRO is doing now i have a feeling my acct's gunna go bye bye XD.

Unlike you (not saying your doing a bad thing or anything) i'm not gunna do what Joymax wants, if i lose my char so be it, it was fun but in the end it's still just a game. :roll:

Besides AoC rapes SRO anyway :D but the PvP system in SRO is quite brilliant, i'll also missing pwning uniques but hey, i think i can live with my accomplishments in the game. I have achieved more in a year than some have achieved in 2 or more.
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ulquiorra wrote:
sparta_sword wrote:I don't know, but I'm not taking chances, I put silk on my stall char (going to use it for globals I guess) and I also bought $5 worth of silk for a few guild members accounts that are unable to buy silk, so they don't get unfairly banned just because they are unable to pay2play

I think Joymax is trying to push out all the regular players, cheaters, and anyone that spends a good amount of time playing the game that does not buy silk. Reasoning behind this is they probably want to see if they can force these people to buy silk, or just get rid of all the people clogging server, so when they do stop the weekly bannings the server will fill up with even more gold bots, whether you believe it or not, I believe either joymax is in contract with most these gold farmers, or they are sister companies.


er...didn't you just prove your own point? aren't u doing exactly what joymax wants by starting to buy silk? :banghead:

rofl if more people have your mentallity you can kiss all non buying silk accounts bye bye.

why would I not prove my own point? stupid statement

and yeah haven't you noticed alot of non buying silk players are getting banned! moron, your like a blind naked person walking down the street coming into this thread
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sparta_sword wrote:
ulquiorra wrote:
sparta_sword wrote:I don't know, but I'm not taking chances, I put silk on my stall char (going to use it for globals I guess) and I also bought $5 worth of silk for a few guild members accounts that are unable to buy silk, so they don't get unfairly banned just because they are unable to pay2play

I think Joymax is trying to push out all the regular players, cheaters, and anyone that spends a good amount of time playing the game that does not buy silk. Reasoning behind this is they probably want to see if they can force these people to buy silk, or just get rid of all the people clogging server, so when they do stop the weekly bannings the server will fill up with even more gold bots, whether you believe it or not, I believe either joymax is in contract with most these gold farmers, or they are sister companies.


er...didn't you just prove your own point? aren't u doing exactly what joymax wants by starting to buy silk? :banghead:

rofl if more people have your mentallity you can kiss all non buying silk accounts bye bye.

why would I not prove my own point? stupid statement

and yeah haven't you noticed alot of non buying silk players are getting banned! moron, your like a blind naked person walking down the street coming into this thread



Coming into this thread? ummmm if you haven't checked, I STARTED IT!!!!!

Second of all, your point / theory is a negative one (Joymax banning non silk buying accounts so they can make more money) so um, wouldn't it be a good thing to not wanna prove that point to be true or possibly not due exactly what they want? :?

PS. ROFL whats with the name calling and flaming? Thats kinda immature when i didn't attack you at all, plz get some manners.
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sparta_sword wrote:
ulquiorra wrote:
sparta_sword wrote:I don't know, but I'm not taking chances, I put silk on my stall char (going to use it for globals I guess) and I also bought $5 worth of silk for a few guild members accounts that are unable to buy silk, so they don't get unfairly banned just because they are unable to pay2play

I think Joymax is trying to push out all the regular players, cheaters, and anyone that spends a good amount of time playing the game that does not buy silk. Reasoning behind this is they probably want to see if they can force these people to buy silk, or just get rid of all the people clogging server, so when they do stop the weekly bannings the server will fill up with even more gold bots, whether you believe it or not, I believe either joymax is in contract with most these gold farmers, or they are sister companies.


er...didn't you just prove your own point? aren't u doing exactly what joymax wants by starting to buy silk? :banghead:

rofl if more people have your mentallity you can kiss all non buying silk accounts bye bye.

why would I not prove my own point? stupid statement

and yeah haven't you noticed alot of non buying silk players are getting banned! moron, your like a blind naked person walking down the street coming into this thread



Coming into this thread? ummmm if you haven't checked, I STARTED IT!!!!!

Second of all, your point / theory is a negative one (Joymax banning non silk buying accounts so they can make more money) so um, wouldn't it be a good thing to not wanna prove that point to be true or possibly not due exactly what they want? :?

PS. ROFL whats with the name calling and flaming? Thats kinda immature when i didn't attack you at all, plz get some manners.[/quote]

lol oh yeah you are the thread starter, oh well dont matter

yeah why wouldnt you want to ban non silk buying people that are taking up slots in your server? Of course you would cause you want people that are going to pay for that slot not some free loading 13 year old. It's all about money, it always has been.

I do apologize for the name calling, I was probably out of line in that regard, don't take this apology as a sign of weakness or I'll snap you ;-p
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lol, ok i'll make a mental note.

i'm just saying what Joymax is doing i find unethical as a company and i don't support it, i thought thats what you were trying to get across in your statement but it appears i am mistaken.

It's a FREE MMO, yet they are banning people that don't pay, it's contradictory.

Joymax could atleast be polite about it and say you know "Non silk purchasing accounts my be banned to make room for silk buyers, or atleast something other than random bans leaving everything with no reason.
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Not sure but

- there were a lot of complaints on the official website of pk2 editing and the invisibility status removal. Somewhere there is a link between JM's part of the program and the program on your own PC. Perhaps they patched it because they wanted to remove pk2 using players and banned them

- another possibility is playing in an internet cafe or with characters that are not playing legit on the same network (at home, job, café, etc). Perhaps they started blocking IP's like so many players asked for on the official forum. It's worth checking it. I know that main accounts of an IP are active, but players got secundary accounts on the same IP blocked

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yeah, i'm just PO'd right now with Joymax, i know my friend did nothing wrong he doesn't know enough about the game yet to hack or pK2 edit or buy gold (i have plenty of gold i can give him if he ever needed it). There is NO explanation for why my friend was banned except that Joymax is a buncha %&$^#((*#$^$


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ulquiorra wrote:yeah, i'm just PO'd right now with Joymax, i know my friend did nothing wrong he doesn't know enough about the game yet to hack or pK2 edit or buy gold (i have plenty of gold i can give him if he ever needed it). There is NO explanation for why my friend was banned except that Joymax is a buncha %&$^#((*#$^$


THATS RIGHT I SAID IT!!!!!!!


Actually you didnt lolz . Anyway your friend probably did something like get a crappy bot and got banned for it. OR maybe he said something on sro.net forums. Point is this: JM will make a reason so sorry for your friend best thing to do is quit or start over
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it is also hard to prove some1 pk2 edited...
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JM are banning pure plvled chars too :D so if he only got exp when you plvled... lol

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Been playing seen i joined this forum...never brought silk...don't see why you guys are have these problems...I still go though the daily ritual of typeing really fast at login, grinding in f12, picking up my drops etc...(and checking for high lvls who will plvl me for free hehe in party match ><) that was before i join Venus...(now i join union parties weee.....) :D Joymax must just be out to get you?
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-.- wrote:JM are banning pure plvled chars too :D so if he only got exp when you plvled... lol

in response to bot sites selling plvling now


Where do you get your information from? The fact of the matter is everything that you hear about as to why Joymax bans people, it's all rumours. Joymax don't say 'oh btw we're also banning people who get plvled', that's just a sheer guess. People can't just randomly make things up based on tiny pieces of evidence.
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They stated a couple of times on the official forum that pk2 editing isn't legal.

I also know that some players reinstalled an older version (I think 1.51, in fact the new client when Roc came out) because you aren't DC'ing when you login. They can probably check that kind of stuff out.

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What is his ingame name? I think you should ask him if he ever played somewhere else. The pc he used might have a 3rd party program. I know someone get banned from NO-DC program.

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