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ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:07 pm
by kami
Element prices are dropping seriously low. Thanks to people..using methods too much. Now selling elements take longer and there is far less profit.
Lv4 winds are now 1.5k.each. instead of 2.5k each.
and most of lv4 elements are like 400k each per unit.
lv3 wind is not too bad and lv4 water but they will be bad too.
I think people should not create forums on breaking weapons for elements cause now too many people are doing it. And the element econmy is going to be worse than lv2 winds method.
WELL DONE ELEMENTS WILL SOON BE CHEAP, then i have to go back to making stones.

Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:10 pm
by FaintSmile
Meh, element selling didn't really make anything anyways. All it was good for was earning a bit of starter money. There's easier ways to make money out there, and they work a lot more efficiently

Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:28 pm
by Dyegov
Then you say that people should keep the secret for them only and let the other people poor? I'm sorry, but if there's a good method of making money at at time, everybody has the same right of knowing about it

Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:03 pm
by Disconn3cted
This is a good thing you know? If the prices of elements drop then the prices of stones will drop, if the prices of stones drop the prices of pimped 9D equips drop, if the prices of pimped 9D equips drop the prices of all 9D equips drop, if the prices of all 9D equips drop the prices of everything any lvl will drop.
Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:14 pm
by Mousetrap
@Threadstarter, you're a greedy idiot.
That method worked for a while, I used it to create my own elements.
Now, I just buy them for cheap as hell

The prices will eventually go back up though. Once people start to realize they aren't making a good profit. This could take a while, but it will happen. Then the cycle will repeat all over again.
Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:03 pm
by kami
it just mean i can `t use my number one method that nevers fails me.
And two the stones are 9 degree which are still expensive cause lv9 element cost loads.
Anyway what is done and is done.
Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:05 pm
by Disconn3cted
the 9D stones have dropped a lot, in sparta a lvl 9 str is around 4m and a lvl 9 int is around 2m, when the cap first opened lvl 9 str was around 10m and lvl 9 int was around 4m
Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:08 pm
by kami
i hate 9 degree stuff. buy low and make method for 9 degree is a waste of time and money thanks to weapon exlirs being like 1mil.
I am going to stick to 5 deg and 6 deg and 8 if i am lucky.
Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:09 pm
by Hellraider
Wind 4 is still here for 3k each, water 6 is 3-4k, earth 6 3-4k, water 9 2-2.5k, earth 9 3-4k
I do agree on how stones have dropped insanely in price. The other day i had to buy str lvl9 stone for 6.5m each, and couple days later they were in the low 5m, and now 4m and occasionaly some under 4m, while str tabs went from 4.5m to 3-3.5m
Lvl9 int is already somewhere around 1.3-1.6mil if i remember correctly
Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:17 pm
by kami
[SW]Hellraider wrote:Wind 4 is still here for 3k each, water 6 is 3-4k, earth 6 3-4k, water 9 2-2.5k, earth 9 3-4k
I do agree on how stones have dropped insanely in price. The other day i had to buy str lvl9 stone for 6.5m each, and couple days later they were in the low 5m, and now 4m and occasionaly some under 4m, while str tabs went from 4.5m to 3-3.5m
Lvl9 int is already somewhere around 1.3-1.6mil if i remember correctly
well you aren `t on Alps the most screwed up server in the universe.
Its got greedy players, and bots. 98% are botters or arrogant lv90s ints who one hit everything and stupid taxis. Everyone on alps is a scammer except me. I am the only person on alps who never scams, (this includes back when i am a newbie...,althought it was better then, then comes the greedy generation).
9 deg glavies are like 15mil for normal .. 45mil +3 100mil +5 200mil +7 and 1billion for +9
And sos is like 400mil and som is like 1bill and Sos sun is probably like 2billion..for all i know.
Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:54 pm
by Krushrpants
I noticed it mainly on 9D str tabs and stones. For the first couple weeks, I was making a decent profit buying str9 tabs for 4mil, and then selling the stones for 5.8-6.5mil (depending on the %). One day, pretty much overnight, 9D str prices fell dramatically... now you can barely get 4.5mil for a 10% str stone.
Good thing I only had 9 stones in my inventory at the time

Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:20 pm
by VeniVidiVici
I agree, the elements and stones are dropping terribly. Last week I could sell water 4 for 3.5k ea, now I don't even sell it for 2k ea. Wind 4 and Wind 3 sold for 2k ea today. But after spending 18 mil on swords, I only got 5 mil profit, and the water 4 is still left.
Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:55 pm
by wootpops
finally i can afford overpriced bullshit.
Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:19 pm
by Toshiharu
I'm glad they're dropping. I didn't feel like buying weapons over and over to make my own water 4 nor pay 5k a unit.
Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:36 pm
by Norain_
Disconn3cted wrote:This is a good thing you know? If the prices of elements drop then the prices of stones will drop, if the prices of stones drop the prices of pimped 9D equips drop, if the prices of pimped 9D equips drop the prices of all 9D equips drop, if the prices of all 9D equips drop the prices of everything any lvl will drop.
Ur ability for conclusion is stunning...
Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:28 am
by CLOT
Disconn3cted wrote:This is a good thing you know? If the prices of elements drop then the prices of stones will drop, if the prices of stones drop the prices of pimped 9D equips drop, if the prices of pimped 9D equips drop the prices of all 9D equips drop, if the prices of all 9D equips drop the prices of everything any lvl will drop.
u juz gave a perfect demonstration of the Slippery slope fallacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope_fallacyif its like that way, every 1 in sro will be rich and strong and we will have world peace in real life ---> ideal world
Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:50 am
by Disconn3cted
CLOT wrote:Disconn3cted wrote:This is a good thing you know? If the prices of elements drop then the prices of stones will drop, if the prices of stones drop the prices of pimped 9D equips drop, if the prices of pimped 9D equips drop the prices of all 9D equips drop, if the prices of all 9D equips drop the prices of everything any lvl will drop.
u juz gave a perfect demonstration of the Slippery slope fallacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope_fallacyif its like that way, every 1 in sro will be rich and strong and we will have world peace in real life ---> ideal world
But this is how economics work, if it cost less to make something then its value will go down since more people would produce it, when the value of the superior product goes down everything which is a of a lower quality will go down also. I will use gas as an example; gas cost more so everything else went up in price because almost everything needs gas to be produced in one way or another, if the price of gas went down the prices of everything else would go down with it and the value of the dollar would be increased. This also applies to elements; if the price of elements go down the price of making stones go down and more people would make their own stones rather than buying them, with their stones they are going to create nice 9D equips and because so many people would make them they would have to lower the prices to compete with each other, when the prices of the good 9D equips go down the prices of the plain ones will too in order to get someone to buy them, and SROs economy would be in recovery instead of the depression it is currently in.
Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:04 am
by CLOT
Disconn3cted wrote:CLOT wrote:Disconn3cted wrote:This is a good thing you know? If the prices of elements drop then the prices of stones will drop, if the prices of stones drop the prices of pimped 9D equips drop, if the prices of pimped 9D equips drop the prices of all 9D equips drop, if the prices of all 9D equips drop the prices of everything any lvl will drop.
u juz gave a perfect demonstration of the Slippery slope fallacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope_fallacyif its like that way, every 1 in sro will be rich and strong and we will have world peace in real life ---> ideal world
But this is how economics work, if it cost less to make something then its value will go down since more people would produce it, when the value of the superior product goes down everything which is a of a lower quality will go down also. I will use gas as an example; gas cost more so everything else went up in price because almost everything needs gas to be produced in one way or another, if the price of gas went down the prices of everything else would go down with it and the value of the dollar would be increased. This also applies to elements; if the price of elements go down the price of making stones go down and more people would make their own stones rather than buying them, with their stones they are going to create nice 9D equips and because so many people would make them they would have to lower the prices to compete with each other, when the prices of the good 9D equips go down the prices of the plain ones will too in order to get someone to buy them, and SROs economy would be in recovery instead of the depression it is currently in.
lol, well, economic models, supply vs demand etc. are juz concepts to help understand the real world economy
its not practical at all or at the least, not true at all when applied in real life
there are alot and alot of external factors affecting it, which makes those models/concepts taught in school irrelevant
wat u said is too ideal...
eg. lets say stone sellers get cheap elements, they think "hey, i got cheap supply, but why shld i lower down price? lets all stay the same price as b4 so we hv more profit"
human greed, imperfect knowledge of market conditions are juz some of factors that u cant calculate in/predict with the basic concepts
thats why u see supply vs demand graph are straight lines when taught in school under ideal conditions, but they become irregular curves when in real world, thx to the real-life complications
wow, sounded like a scholar or something

Re: ELEMENT PRICES ARE DROPPING except for lv6 earth & water lv9
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:38 am
by ericxdeath
price of wep elixers in venus is 300k - 450k... seriously.. +3 weps are a rare good. Though you can make ALOT of money off selling elixers.
