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Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:15 am
by Cerus
Wouldn't 8 x Clerics be the ultimate?
Str and Int buffs for every1.
Constant heal.
Recovery division for every1.
Constant bless.
Every1 is a resser.
Offering.
Absolute damage.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:17 am
by x_iCe_x
uhhh sure
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:17 am
by sirs1ayer
no, cause you can still 1 hit a cleric with cleric buffs...
need warriors for screens/fences.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:18 am
by Cerus
sirs1ayer wrote:no, cause you can still 1 hit a cleric with cleric buffs...
need warriors for screens/fences.
Non stop bless.... No one can 1 hit you. Except 3 barb/cleric absolute damage you.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:18 am
by William-CL
I'd Love to see that lol, but 2 Warriors would be nice
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:21 am
by Cerus
In war, everytime when ppl see opponents has bless up, they cease fire to wait for the 45 seconds to end. Except for those with Absolute Damage.
Cleric has Str passive, with Str buff, their HP is high...
4 Clerics Absolute Damaging any full int = dead full int.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:38 am
by Barotix
Interrupt them. Bind, Fear, Stun, Sleep, disease... They're all there for a reason. A party like that will fall if the opponents can prevent any big moves. Continuous Bless? How will you bless if you can't Move? KB, KB, KB, Stun, Stun, KB, KB, more stun. 3 Wizards and 2 locks will prevent you from making any moves 1 cleric to keep them breathing, add 2 warriors to get the quick kills. GG. You have slow attacks, and slow cast even for bless, KB and stun. While you're not moving the warriors get the kills.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:49 am
by MrFudge
why not just 8 2h clerics.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:50 am
by Cerus
Barotix wrote:Interrupt them. Bind, Fear, Stun, Sleep, disease... They're all there for a reason. A party like that will fall if the opponents can prevent any big moves. Continuous Bless? How will you bless if you can't Move? KB, KB, KB, Stun, Stun, KB, KB, more stun. 3 Wizards and 2 locks will prevent you from making any moves 1 cleric to keep them breathing, add 2 warriors to get the quick kills. GG. You have slow attacks, and slow cast even for bless, KB and stun. While you're not moving the warriors get the kills.
What you said will work if opponent knows which 8 clerics are in the pt. Only then they could assign each of their pt member to deal with which cleric to b specific.
In FW they might b able to cause some disruption. But 45 Secs of Bless is more than enough for the pt to b rebuffed n ressed. The cycle can go on. Absolute Damage has fast cooldown, it is one of the fastest.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:51 am
by Cerus
MrFudge wrote:why not just 8 2h clerics.
U mean STR clerics?
Yea.. that would do too... GG
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:56 am
by helloGOODBYE
Barotix wrote:Interrupt them. Bind, Fear, Stun, Sleep, disease... They're all there for a reason. A party like that will fall if the opponents can prevent any big moves. Continuous Bless? How will you bless if you can't Move? KB, KB, KB, Stun, Stun, KB, KB, more stun. 3 Wizards and 2 locks will prevent you from making any moves 1 cleric to keep them breathing, add 2 warriors to get the quick kills. GG. You have slow attacks, and slow cast even for bless, KB and stun. While you're not moving the warriors get the kills.
Lol holy spell removes all those status'whats your next move?
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:57 am
by Cerus
helloGOODBYE wrote:Lol holy spell removes all those status'whats your next move?
Except KD & KB xD
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:01 am
by helloGOODBYE
Ofcourse, but he mentions bind, fear, sleep, and disease.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:04 am
by sirs1ayer
Cerus wrote:sirs1ayer wrote:no, cause you can still 1 hit a cleric with cleric buffs...
need warriors for screens/fences.
Non stop bless.... No one can 1 hit you. Except 3 barb/cleric absolute damage you.
Bless isn't that great.. yeah it helps, but it's not like your invincible.. at all
have you never been to fw?
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:08 am
by Cerus
sirs1ayer wrote:Bless isn't that great.. yeah it helps, but it's not like your invincible.. at all
have you never been to fw?
Have u been blessed b4? I mean... up to date bless skill?
Its like having a full Sun set on you... and better.
I can say you're close to invisible wit it on.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:36 am
by MrFudge
i could tank 6 ppl in ctf with my bless on, i was a euro 2hand but i had no vigors.
with bless and skins i could go afk and take a piss.
now an 8 man 2hand/cleric party with bless, skins, defense buffs, and screens.
its hard enough tanking 2 daredevils hitting you at the same time.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:39 am
by sirs1ayer
seriously even with double bless a person 3 levels higher than you with updated skill/weapon and 1 hit you..
it's pretty good for protecting against magic attacks.. but phys isn't that great
anyway, absolute damage agaisnt a pure str china character = fail, their pot spam against the weak ass damage = fail
Also, your strength is also your weakness, clerics = low hp's = absolute fucks you too.
EDIT: I guess you could be a good party if you were all light armor and hybrid, then you could sustain the party and never die with constant heals/bless/holy spell but, i don't think the damage would be that great.
The only way absolute damage would work if EVERYONE ganged up on one person at a time.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:04 am
by Barotix
helloGOODBYE wrote:Barotix wrote:Interrupt them. Bind, Fear, Stun, Sleep, disease... They're all there for a reason. A party like that will fall if the opponents can prevent any big moves. Continuous Bless? How will you bless if you can't Move? KB, KB, KB, Stun, Stun, KB, KB, more stun. 3 Wizards and 2 locks will prevent you from making any moves 1 cleric to keep them breathing, add 2 warriors to get the quick kills. GG. You have slow attacks, and slow cast even for bless, KB and stun. While you're not moving the warriors get the kills.
Lol holy spell removes all those status'whats your next move?
Last I checked Holy spell didn't remove KD, KB or Stun. Wear them down, don't let them fight. Their holy spell will run out before my party runs out of patience, then they're as good as gone. Disease gets through Holy Spell, its purpose is to let the other effects break through.
Invincible damage wise, but there are tactics. Stalling for time while preventing a counter attack, that is how you beat a Full Cleric Party. Warrior Cleric would be near Impossible to actually beat, but you can annoy them until they give up.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:06 am
by William-CL
Lets go with some Pure STr clerics lol.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:07 am
by Cerus
sirs1ayer wrote:seriously even with double bless a person 3 levels higher than you with updated skill/weapon and 1 hit you..
it's pretty good for protecting against magic attacks.. but phys isn't that great
anyway, absolute damage agaisnt a pure str china character = fail, their pot spam against the weak ass damage = fail
Also, your strength is also your weakness, clerics = low hp's = absolute fucks you too.
EDIT: I guess you could be a good party if you were all light armor and hybrid, then you could sustain the party and never die with constant heals/bless/holy spell but, i don't think the damage would be that great.
The only way absolute damage would work if EVERYONE ganged up on one person at a time.
Bless is good defense against both Mag and Phy >___>
You don't absolute damage on Pure STR Chinese, not even full INT Chinese... >___>
You Use your other nukes...
You sure you are playing the SRO we are playing?
Blessed and still 1 hitted by another 3 lvls above u?
One whos 10 lvls can't even one hit you if you're blessed...
EDIT:
1)Do you know how much Phy and Mag def increase does bless gives? at lvl 90?
If unsure go check pls.
2) Do you know how much absolute damage does a cleric does at lvl 90?
Go check again If unsure.
3) Do you know how much HP does a full int euro has at lvl 90? go check.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:09 am
by Barotix
Cerus wrote:sirs1ayer wrote:seriously even with double bless a person 3 levels higher than you with updated skill/weapon and 1 hit you..
it's pretty good for protecting against magic attacks.. but phys isn't that great
anyway, absolute damage agaisnt a pure str china character = fail, their pot spam against the weak ass damage = fail
Also, your strength is also your weakness, clerics = low hp's = absolute fucks you too.
EDIT: I guess you could be a good party if you were all light armor and hybrid, then you could sustain the party and never die with constant heals/bless/holy spell but, i don't think the damage would be that great.
The only way absolute damage would work if EVERYONE ganged up on one person at a time.
Bless is good defense against both Mag and Phy >___>
You don't absolute damage on Pure STR Chinese, not even full INT Chinese... >___>
You Use your other nukes... You sure you are playing the SRO we are playing?
Blessed and still 1 hitted by another 3 lvls above u?
One whos 10 lvls can't even one hit you if you're blessed...
Your weak slow nukes? If you can't cast an offering you won't kill anyone. This party is stalled to easily. XD
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:12 am
by Cerus
Barotix wrote:Your weak slow nukes? If you can't cast an offering you won't kill anyone. This party is stalled to easily. XD
Yes their weak other nukes xD
Chinese are fairly weak against str/int buffed clerics...
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:28 am
by sirs1ayer
dude, there are party dynamics for a reason.
A wizard for damage cleric for support warriors for tanking.
In pvp a warrior doesn't really tank that much because they can't force tuant like they can on mobs, that's why they have skins/screens. they can make themselves/others able to absorb/reduce damage that would be done to them.
A wizard with screens/fence/cleric buffs = the ultimate player
Even when the wizard doesn't have screens that's where bless comes in from the cleric/s
the player has ultimate damage and protection.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:31 am
by Cerus
sirs1ayer wrote:dude, there are party dynamics for a reason.
I agree with that.
But... Bless is still overpowered..
Continuous bless + STR buff + Heal + Holy spells = undead.
That fact is one that we hav to register.
8 x Clerics don't work in PvE but PVP.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:32 am
by /Pi
Panic + Combustion will send you to your knees.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:40 am
by sirs1ayer
Cerus wrote:sirs1ayer wrote:dude, there are party dynamics for a reason.
I agree with that.
But... Bless is still overpowered..
Continuous bless + STR buff + Heal + Holy spells = undead.
That fact is one that we hav to register.
8 x Clerics don't work in PvE but PVP.
i'd be skeptical till i saw damage output from the party.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:37 am
by Fly
8 warriors with cleric sub can take that pt down faster then you can say "10k plys"
2 warriors absolute 1 cleric at a time. 4 clerics down instantly. repeat with the 2nd absolute skill and 4 more dead clerics. the clerics cant do shit back since there absolutes wont hit back as hard vs a str. offering? warriors will bless. hit back with nukes? rofl.
warriors running around with cleric absolutes are the new and official Str Nukers. Unlike the ones before them, they dont suck one bit.
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:29 am
by SKarFace
sounds like it would work out
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:08 am
by Cerus
Fly wrote:8 warriors with cleric sub can take that pt down faster then you can say "10k plys"
2 warriors absolute 1 cleric at a time. 4 clerics down instantly. repeat with the 2nd absolute skill and 4 more dead clerics. the clerics cant do shit back since there absolutes wont hit back as hard vs a str. offering? warriors will bless. hit back with nukes? rofl.
Cerus wrote:U mean STR clerics?
Yea.. that would do too... GG
Re: Ultimate 8/8 War PT
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:31 am
by LockStar.
Pure STR clerics in light armor
