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Let's see, as nuker, you need to be level 90 for lighting nuke and level 90 if you want fire nuke, and then they need at least 80 cold for the 50% snowshield. Now if they want weapon skill, they need at least another 80 level to hit hard. So how do you guys manage that at 90 caps especially with only 300 max masteries limit.

um i dont think nukers getting fire nukes for 90 cap ayt least not all of them

just so u know not all nukers get fire maxed so for 90 cap im pretty sure there going for 90 weapon 90 light 90 ice 30 fire

90 FIRE
90 ICE SUPPORT BUILD WILL DO WELL GUILD WAR FOTRESS ECT
90 LIGHT

90 BICH
90 ICE S/S BUILD WILL DO WELL IN PVP SOLO
90 LIGHT

90 HESUK
90 ICE SPEAR BUILD WILL DO WELL IN PVP SOLO
90 LIGHT

im going support build

I notice ice and light have to max out for nuker. Nice. I now know how to build my build. thanx man.

penfold1992 wrote:90 FIRE
90 ICE SUPPORT BUILD WILL DO WELL GUILD WAR FOTRESS ECT
90 LIGHT

90 BICH
90 ICE S/S BUILD WILL DO WELL IN PVP SOLO
90 LIGHT

90 HESUK
90 ICE SPEAR BUILD WILL DO WELL IN PVP SOLO
90 LIGHT

im going support build

penfold1992 wrote:90 FIRE
90 ICE SUPPORT BUILD WILL DO WELL GUILD WAR FOTRESS ECT
90 LIGHT

90 BICH
90 ICE S/S BUILD WILL DO WELL IN PVP SOLO
90 LIGHT

90 HESUK
90 ICE SPEAR BUILD WILL DO WELL IN PVP SOLO
90 LIGHT

im going support build

yep lol im Bich/Light/Cold level 74 atm and full farmed for 90 i love it

im making support build for...
buffs
gw
fotress
good pvm
good plvling

o btw the support build should go s/s as it looses the defense that the bicheon tree gives and the hp the spear tree gives

Fire 90
Weapon 90
ice 60
lightning 60

^suggested for spear int hybrids.

light 60? better light 90/fire60...
ints need light more than fire

Lvl 90 fire, ice, bicheon, 30 light.

Use speed skill for grind, typhoon for pvp, 30 parry ratio doesn't matter, u better make 100% parry on items.
Light imbue + mag dmg buff < fire imbue; fire nukes have about the same dmg as light nukes (light nukes have a higher range (min,max) while fire nukes have a smaller dmg difference (min,max))
You need mag defense even you are pure int in garms... wizards are pretty good in dealing dmg lol.
That small phy dmg bonus from fire combined with the new bicheon skills will be pretty good against int builds.
Pvp against str? simple snow shield 84%+iron wall.

Defense? Prot set +5.
Done.

PS Int builds doesn't need light more than fire

~~~ Edit:
Another build i'd like to test will be 90 ice force bicheon, 30 fire
Pure int not pure str blader

Why? Because:
You have ice imbue +6 combo skill from bicheon, 90 light 30 fire chars will suffer cause they need 100% blue on the accessories and not many players can afford to play with alchemy;
Debuffs from Force are awesome, impotent + snow shield => no chance in killing you + iron wall/giant shield think again;
You will think what about combustion (mana drain) no mana no snow shield... wrong.. force cure series can cure 2 debuffs (combustion, dull, fear, burn, poison... division, bleed, impotent... everything exept stun and sleep from warlock)
You also have new KD and Stab with 2 hits and crit increase (division + phy increase buff from bicheon = pwnage against int, and without against str)
As defense... prot set +5
I don't need to say more

theres a lvl 83 fire nuke btw...

I know that.. people should start thinking about "custom made" builds lol
Having the same build like everyone else is boring.

there is also a 90 nuke?!?!

light nuke is up there with the fire nuke

People don't get Fire, thats how they solve it.

Lol balooo. Int builds need light as much as you need eat everyday.

Int without light = failure. (I don't know about hybrids)

Prove me wrong?
My new char will be 90 ice fire bicheon 30 light... that's if i won't get any 9d sun weap meanwhile to change my mind.
My main char is not so good farmed and i will try that build. Wanted to go ice force bicheon but i like high dmg.
As long as i won't get any 9d euro sun or ch str weapon i won't change my future build.

im going 60 light cold 90 fire bicheon

alot of nukers are taking down their weapon mastery and adding up only the 3 element masteries for 90 cap... and they reduce fire from there, cold+lightning is most required whether you like it or not.

Force piercing buff is a must for nukers. Go and check damage with and without it.

Eden wrote:Lol balooo. Int builds need light as much as you need eat everyday.

Int without light = failure. (I don't know about hybrids)

lol hybrids fail in future caps

Eden wrote:Force piercing buff is a must for nukers. Go and check damage with and without it.

agreed! and proven right!

kmaster22 wrote:

Eden wrote:Lol balooo. Int builds need light as much as you need eat everyday.

Int without light = failure. (I don't know about hybrids)

lol hybrids fail in future caps

Eden wrote:Force piercing buff is a must for nukers. Go and check damage with and without it.

agreed! and proven right!

They fail in 80 cap, let alone at 90 and upwards. No offence.

Light/Ice is what almost everyone will go for. Atleast the people that like to pvp alot appart from jobbing in big groups. I'm not a fan of the pure force nuker because I rely on back up in job, and sometime I like to go out there and do things on MY OWN! Also, there is something that really appeals to me in the Light/Ice build.. maybe its the simplicity of it.

And to mention something.. the higher the cap, the better it gets for Pure INTs.. think about a glavier with over 30k hp at 100 cap and X-large pots.

LockStar. wrote:

kmaster22 wrote:

Eden wrote:Lol balooo. Int builds need light as much as you need eat everyday.

Int without light = failure. (I don't know about hybrids)

lol hybrids fail in future caps

Eden wrote:Force piercing buff is a must for nukers. Go and check damage with and without it.

agreed! and proven right!

They fail in 80 cap, let alone at 90 and upwards. No offence.

Light/Ice is what almost everyone will go for. Atleast the people that like to pvp alot appart from jobbing in big groups. I'm not a fan of the pure force nuker because I rely on back up in job, and sometime I like to go out there and do things on MY OWN! Also, there is something that really appeals to me in the Light/Ice build.. maybe its the simplicity of it.

And to mention something.. the higher the cap, the better it gets for Pure INTs.. think about a glavier with over 30k hp at 100 cap and X-large pots.

Exactly.

Heuskal/bicheon light and cold will be the best for pure INTs in my opinion (90-100 cap).

I think the best build for s/s nukers is 90 Bicheon, 90 Fire, 90 Light, 30 Ice (for 23% snow shield).

Light is EXTREMELY important because it increases damage tremendously and allows for quick get aways. You won't need ice for physical defense because you have your shield for that. 30 Ice gives you enough for the 1st snow shield (23% absorption) which is good enough.

The best build for a spear nuker is 90 Heuksal, 90 Light, 90 Ice, and 30 of a different mastery.

30 Fire can give you 6% extra physical damage.
30 Force can give you 329 extra mp.
30 Pacheon can give you 33 extra attack rating.

I would choose Pacheon.

These 2 builds are best for 1 v 1 pvp. If you are only interested in PvM or support then its probably best to just max Fire, Ice, and Light.

Hope I enlightened some people.

What everyone has to understand is that nukers aren't tankers lol.

I think ice helps a lot because INTs just need more physical defense. For me, a good pure INT at 90 cap is: 90 bicheon or heuskal, 90 light, 90 ice, 30 fire or whatever, using garments. Yes, garments.

Eden wrote:What everyone has to understand is that nukers aren't tankers lol.

I think ice helps a lot because INTs just need more physical defense. For me, a good pure INT at 90 cap is: 90 bicheon or heuskal, 90 light, 90 ice, 30 fire or whatever, using garments. Yes, garments.

The garments! Atlast someone that agrees on a 90 Ice garment wearing pure INT!! I swear, once I update my guide I will add some numbers to prove all the people saying garment is wrong.

LockStar. wrote:

Eden wrote:What everyone has to understand is that nukers aren't tankers lol.

I think ice helps a lot because INTs just need more physical defense. For me, a good pure INT at 90 cap is: 90 bicheon or heuskal, 90 light, 90 ice, 30 fire or whatever, using garments. Yes, garments.

The garments! Atlast someone that agrees on a 90 Ice garment wearing pure INT!! I swear, once I update my guide I will add some numbers to prove all the people saying garment is wrong.

It's because without fire and without garments you can get 1 hit by fellow nukers

i think weapon skills in nukers are useless, u said u already have def from shield so why go bicheon then? having 90 ice light fire 30 heuk is the best, i saw a lvl 90 char with that and hit 30k withouth berserk to lv 88 mobs(rockys), and at cap 100 its more useless to have weapon skills if u a nuker

LaloHao wrote:i think weapon skills in nukers are useless, u said u already have def from shield so why go bicheon then? having 90 ice light fire 30 heuk is the best, i saw a lvl 90 char with that and hit 30k withouth berserk to lv 88 mobs(rockys), and at cap 100 its more useless to have weapon skills if u a nuker

Because in pvp you won't kill lv 90 str builds just with nukes.

Edit: Probably can't even kill other nukers without weapon skills.

The new fire nuke is lvl 83. New light is 90. That just means they have to full farm in order to get it (^_^)

Lmao @ the ppl that say nukers without lightning. GL with that. Thats like a glavier without any ghost spears. It just will not work.

Besides, fire sucks for nukers now. 90 Light nuke> Maxed fire nuke. Embue damage isn't enough to make a difference.

Nukers are in no way screwed. Eh, its hybrid spears that are going to have a problem.

AkillerNXC wrote:Lmao @ the ppl that say nukers without lightning. GL with that. Thats like a glavier without any ghost spears. It just will not work.

Besides, fire sucks for nukers now. 90 Light nuke> Maxed fire nuke. Embue damage isn't enough to make a difference.

Nukers are in no way screwed. Eh, its hybrid spears that are going to have a problem.

Yea I suck.... Yet I hardly die.... And btw fire is stronger