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Wizz with Life Turnover.
Rogue with Crossbow/Dagger Extreme.

Let say both LvL 80 wearing Garment VS Gens
Which one die faster?

The one who hits first wins

LaloHao wrote:The one who hits first wins

I didn't mean Wiz VS Rogue.
I mean
1) Wizz wit garm on, with Life Turnover on. Against lvl 80 General.
2) Rogue wit garm on, with Crossbow/Dagger extreme on. Against lvl 80 General.

Which one would die faster?
Let say they stand still n let the Gen hit them.

wiz.

Wiz of course

the_wicked wrote:wiz.

100% positive?
Under the above condition,
Wizz Life Turnover reduce its HP by 50% but not its def power.
Rogue's Skill reduce both its HP by 50% and Def by 40%.

Edit:
I guess u're rite. As Wizz's phy def is really low anyways.

Would a Wizz die first even with no Life Turnover on?

a Wiz max hp without turnover skill haves not more than 7k of hp so... anyway the wiz die firts

whats it matter a wizard shouldn't' let himself get hit

though I love rogue when you need to be, you can stop being a nuker for a second and be like a str again

wiz dies before rogue because even with 50%hp, it's still more than 100% hp on wiz...

general is phy too, rogue xbow has avoid passive

wizard but the crossbows r faster

__ViRuS__ wrote:WIZZ win cuz he will makke alot damge (life turnover)
but rogue may not kill 1 hit so wiz i think win

that all i see in a real battle between rogue and wiz and the wiz did win alot matches more than the rogue

omfg he is asking who dies first not about a 1 vs 1 between those builds, and btw a rogue without DD/XE can still 1 hit a wiz.

Cerus wrote:

the_wicked wrote:wiz.

100% positive?
Under the above condition,
Wizz Life Turnover reduce its HP by 50% but not its def power.
Rogue's Skill reduce both its HP by 50% and Def by 40%.

Edit:
I guess u're rite. As Wizz's phy def is really low anyways.

Would a Wizz die first even with no Life Turnover on?

rogue only reduce one of them

CE reduces hp
DD reduces def

so i think rogue would survive

ranger4life wrote:

Cerus wrote:

the_wicked wrote:wiz.

100% positive?
Under the above condition,
Wizz Life Turnover reduce its HP by 50% but not its def power.
Rogue's Skill reduce both its HP by 50% and Def by 40%.

Edit:
I guess u're rite. As Wizz's phy def is really low anyways.

Would a Wizz die first even with no Life Turnover on?

rogue only reduce one of them

CE reduces hp
DD reduces def

so i think rogue would survive

im sure CE reduces both hp and def. DD only reduces def.

well, it depends on wat the rogue is using. if he is using CE, he dies first. if he uses DD, wiz dies fast.

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

ranger4life wrote:

Cerus wrote:100% positive?
Under the above condition,
Wizz Life Turnover reduce its HP by 50% but not its def power.
Rogue's Skill reduce both its HP by 50% and Def by 40%.

Edit:
I guess u're rite. As Wizz's phy def is really low anyways.

Would a Wizz die first even with no Life Turnover on?

rogue only reduce one of them

CE reduces hp
DD reduces def

so i think rogue would survive

im sure CE reduces both hp and def. DD only reduces def.

well, it depends on wat the rogue is using. if he is using CE, he dies first. if he uses DD, wiz dies fast.

Actually a rogue in DD will die faster then one with CE (if their attacking). Sure CE has 50% hp reduce but the defense reduce is 40%(only on Pdef) while DD has 75% (on both P/Mdef)
the thing that keeps me alive as Xbower is my knockdowns + knockbacks it is possible for me to kill a party general without even gettin hit if im lucky. As dagger rogue you have very short range attacks and only Screw/Prick to stun and help you survive so even tho dagger rogues have more hp and faster/higher damage rate. Against monsters Xbow is still the best.

And now on to the wizard vs rogue part. The wizard will die faster then both kinds of rogue because of his very low HP and still not high Pdef. But if the wizard uses skills like bind/fear they can also kill without getting hit.
And against party Generals wizard are even easier dead compared to rogues because they mostly rely on "power hits" (1hit with high attack) which can get blocked and will make quite some difference. While a dagger rogue uses mostly combos so if a hit gets blocked it aint too bad and also you have a high chance of critting.
Xbow rogue also has a bit problem with the blocks and kill slower then daggers/wiz but they compensate it with long range and KD/KB to avoid getting hit much.

Got this from my own experience as Rogue/Bard since i can solo a hunter party giant with Xbow while i would die with daggers (if my wolf doesnt pull aggro).

Puni wrote:

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

ranger4life wrote:rogue only reduce one of them

CE reduces hp
DD reduces def

so i think rogue would survive

im sure CE reduces both hp and def. DD only reduces def.

well, it depends on wat the rogue is using. if he is using CE, he dies first. if he uses DD, wiz dies fast.

Actually a rogue in DD will die faster then one with CE (if their attacking). Sure CE has 50% hp reduce but the defense reduce is 40%(only on Pdef) while DD has 75% (on both P/Mdef)
the thing that keeps me alive as Xbower is my knockdowns + knockbacks it is possible for me to kill a party general without even gettin hit if im lucky. As dagger rogue you have very short range attacks and only Screw/Prick to stun and help you survive so even tho dagger rogues have more hp and faster/higher damage rate. Against monsters Xbow is still the best.

And now on to the wizard vs rogue part. The wizard will die faster then both kinds of rogue because of his very low HP and still not high Pdef. But if the wizard uses skills like bind/fear they can also kill without getting hit.
And against party Generals wizard are even easier dead compared to rogues because they mostly rely on "power hits" (1hit with high attack) which can get blocked and will make quite some difference. While a dagger rogue uses mostly combos so if a hit gets blocked it aint too bad and also you have a high chance of critting.
Xbow rogue also has a bit problem with the blocks and kill slower then daggers/wiz but they compensate it with long range and KD/KB to avoid getting hit much.

Got this from my own experience as Rogue/Bard since i can solo a hunter party giant with Xbow while i would die with daggers (if my wolf doesnt pull aggro).

but he is talking about what would happen if the gen was attacking them and the wiz/rogue was standing still

either way
their overpowered builds