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hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:04 am
by school
i want to make a new bow and i seing a lot of vids latetly and it seems pure str are good but could use a bit more dmg. i saw a couple of 2int/1str builds ( think is call 80:80) and they sorta seem to die a lot but with good dmg so i was wondering if 50% int and 50% str would work if you know anything about this or would like to give me an advice on it i will be greatly appreciate it.

something i would really like to know is how much hp has a full str,2i/1s and a 2i/2s bow thz

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:11 am
by ineedhelp
school wrote:i want to make a new bow and i seing a lot of vids latetly and it seems pure str are good but could use a bit more dmg.



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Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:12 am
by revolg
http://www.nivlam.com

That will help you determine the hp and mp. And you can also look at the % of the stats.

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:14 am
by Doppleganger
Please just go pure str lol

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:22 am
by Mcclane
a 50%:50% sound like it would do well you should try it sarcasm

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:31 am
by school
revolg wrote:http://www.nivlam.com

That will help you determine the hp and mp. And you can also look at the % of the stats.


thz and lol on the 50/50 comment

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:39 am
by Mcclane
but seriously go pure str :wink:

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:44 am
by Aiyas
Mcclane wrote:but seriously go pure str :wink:


I thought the whole purpose of this exercise was that he didn't want to make a pure STR archer.

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:48 am
by Doppleganger
Aiyas wrote:
Mcclane wrote:but seriously go pure str :wink:


I thought the whole purpose of this exercise was that he didn't want to make a pure STR archer.

Which is a mistake that were trying to prevent lol

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:53 am
by school
Doppleganger wrote:
Aiyas wrote:
Mcclane wrote:but seriously go pure str :wink:


I thought the whole purpose of this exercise was that he didn't want to make a pure STR archer.

Which is a mistake that were trying to prevent lol

lol ok this is getting sad for me i want to try something different as the other person mention but if str is that much better i guess ill have to go for it, i have a lvl 76 nuker but i havent play on a while and that is why i am asking for advice couse i think things changed a bit

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:30 am
by Doppleganger
lol I'm going to use this video as an example because i have simply have nothing else to do lol. If you go hybrid bow, You will be the drag queen. (In video 7:20-8:00) Bas represents the other players you will vs in pvp. I'm tellin you don't do it lol. The forbidden fruit must not be tasted!
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WHO WANTS TO KNIFE FIGHT WITH ME IN THE AUDIENCE!!!
WHO WANTS TO KNIFE FIGHT WITH ME IN THE AUDIENCE!!!

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:08 am
by Stephanus
Pure int :p

You will be very versatile. Not just weapon skills, but nukes too thus, you can change betveen bow+spear+s/s according to situation.

bow = grinding + range attacks + 1on1 pvp
s/s = jobbing or heavy situations or 2on1 pvp to survive
spear = crowded area nuking like nachals or too many lowbies

Thus, you'll get the highest dps in game.
:)

Imagine: you get nukes with crits.... practically
:twisted:

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:43 am
by Crowley
Stephanus wrote:Pure int :p

You will be very versatile. Not just weapon skills, but nukes too thus, you can change betveen bow+spear+s/s according to situation.

bow = grinding + range attacks + 1on1 pvp
s/s = jobbing or heavy situations or 2on1 pvp to survive
spear = crowded area nuking like nachals or too many lowbies

Thus, you'll get the highest dps in game.
:)

Imagine: you get nukes with crits.... practically
:twisted:


You mean critting with a nuke? It wouldn't make too much of a difference to a pure int, maybe from lets say... 16k to 20-21k?

But, if a hybrid int gets a crit with a nuke, it would equal to about the dmg to a pure int without a crit
:)

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:28 pm
by ddoouugg
WHEN PEOPLE USE FONT LIKE THIS ITS REALLY ANNOYING

anything readable is good :wink:

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:41 pm
by KarmaPolice
ive seen some 70:70 bows at general, they hit consistently 8k+ and crits around 10-11k
while pure str hits around 4-6k and crits around 9-11k

imo, both are good builds

its your call, more hp or more damage?

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:51 pm
by LillDev!l
KarmaPolice wrote:ive seen some 70:70 bows at general, they hit consistently 8k+ and crits around 10-11k
while pure str hits around 4-6k and crits around 9-11k

imo, both are good builds

its your call, more hp or more damage?


uhm 8k+ all the time, and 4-6k for pure str aint really .. right.
i have a lvl 64 bower myself, and i can kill any pure int up to lvl 72.
the only problem is some of them hit really hard xD only its not like my damage is bad as a pure str...
yesterday i still 1 hit crit a lvl 74 pure int lol, with all +3 gear.

anyhow, idd say GO PURE STR. but in the end its up to you ^^

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:23 pm
by Lorenzo
if you go for 1/1 , take the bicheon,
you also need fire and light, and be aware that your char will be screwed after cap 100 ( well, i don't know what kind of skills will come, but mostly yes.. you will looze 1 side of attack buff and 1 side of defense buffs..)

otherwise ...

1/1 , sword, protector.
enjoy when you look at the botters whining and crying in pvp...

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:33 pm
by tomiotar
Im a 1:1 lvl 80 archer and I really love the build. Before I got hacked last year I was doing lot of pvp and, if you know how to play your char, YOU WILL NOT DIE FREQUENTLY. I have considerably higher regular damage than a pure str and more than 14k hp so you can tank the crits of the others builds. With my previuos set I was consistently 1-hitting (if not 1-hit, 1-hit+1regular attack but no more than that) mages and shamans without crit. Even now that I have a set with much less str and int, no premium and no honor buff the only mob that I cant 1-hit when I crit are the generals (72+5 bow, both attacks and both reinf below 50%, only good thing on this bow is crit 10).


Any doubt if I can hit hard look at damage contest and consider that those hits I got them with a 72+5 (not even +7) and with no premium.

About masteries, on 80:80 thread everyone suggests for hybrid archer to max pacheon, light and ice and leave remaining masteries for fire, but I consider that the best for 80 cap is 80pacheon, 80fire, 80ice, 60light and for 90 cap 90pacheon, 90fire, 60light and 60ice.

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:29 am
by Love
ok i did my homework and the way to do things is 2 int/1 str or full str those are the best 2 and the best builds for each cap are the guys above me posted that is all there is to it

Re: hmm new bow

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:18 am
by Stephanus
Love wrote:ok i did my homework and the way to do things is 2 in 1 str or full str those are the best 2 and the best builds for each cap are the guys above me posted that is all there is to it

I warned you...
Gl.