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Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:53 am
by Cerus
Properly built Euro Char will own Chinese in 1v1 or 8v8.
Lvling wise, euro is way faster.
Skill wise, euro is more interesting.
Possible come back in future update?
What nest? Islam comes, both chinese and euro will be left behind?
Discuss.
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:18 am
by Phix
i think euro will pwn Chinese, Chinese will Pwn Islam and Islam will pwn Euro (think of Triangular Conflict)
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:36 am
by OnlyMe
Chinese
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:50 am
by hapnz
Phix wrote:i think euro will pwn Chinese, Chinese will Pwn Islam and Islam will pwn Euro (think of Triangular Conflict)
pfft.. islam would need insane debuffs or absolute damage spells to pwn euro.. and if they did, why wouldn't they pwn chinese too then?
I think euros as a party will always pwn.. chinese could maybe start to pwn in 1on1 if they're skills are upgraded enough and if euros could only max one mastery.
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:53 am
by Elise
Islam use summons, and summoner classes tend to do quite well. Its hard to speculate about Islam right now until we finally see their skills.
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:55 am
by XMoshe
Phix wrote:i think euro will pwn Chinese, Chinese will Pwn Islam and Islam will pwn Euro (think of Triangular Conflict)
Triangular Conflict is the hunter-trader-thief relationship...
I can beat enough euro's 1 on 1, so it's not that bad lol
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:51 pm
by vanom
Phix wrote:i think euro will pwn Chinese, Chinese will Pwn Islam and Islam will pwn Euro (think of Triangular Conflict)
your statement violates the trasitiviy condition of rational behavior and expectec utility theory: if euro pwns chinese, chinese pwn islam and islam pwn euro, that'd mean chinese pwn them all. so you gotta decide, whehter euro pwns chinese or islam pwns euro. otherwise it does not make sense.
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:59 pm
by CLOT
vanom wrote:Phix wrote:i think euro will pwn Chinese, Chinese will Pwn Islam and Islam will pwn Euro (think of Triangular Conflict)
your statement violates the trasitiviy condition of rational behavior and expectec utility theory: if euro pwns chinese, chinese pwn islam and islam pwn euro, that'd mean chinese pwn them all. so you gotta decide, whehter euro pwns chinese or islam pwns euro. otherwise it does not make sense.
in short terms, its conjunction fallacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjunction_fallacy
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:29 pm
by iGod
Phix wrote:i think euro will pwn Chinese, Chinese will Pwn Islam and Islam will pwn Euro (think of Triangular Conflict)
Theres 4 planned races tho.
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:48 pm
by ThisIsAvalon
iGod wrote:Phix wrote:i think euro will pwn Chinese, Chinese will Pwn Islam and Islam will pwn Euro (think of Triangular Conflict)
Theres 4 planned races tho.
Well, GM race pwns all, so yeah.
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:39 pm
by xZhang_Liaox
ThisIsAvalon wrote:iGod wrote:Phix wrote:i think euro will pwn Chinese, Chinese will Pwn Islam and Islam will pwn Euro (think of Triangular Conflict)
Theres 4 planned races tho.
Well, GM race pwns all, so yeah.
imagine PowerRanger race
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:54 pm
by Teddybeer
How you be sure islam is coming...
is it in KSRO or something? Csro idk
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:55 pm
by cpinney
egyptian race maybe? if there are really going to be 4 races, i saw a video of what looked to be egyptian mobs, but that could be part of islam.
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:02 pm
by Waisha
turk race
norse race
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:10 pm
by Nitro
xZhang_Liaox wrote:ThisIsAvalon wrote:
Well, GM race pwns all, so yeah.
imagine PowerRanger race
Chuck Norris Race
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:06 pm
by MixTape
Europes got more skills, with 90 and 100 cap they wont get any new skills, but chinese will so they will be even
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:34 pm
by blackfalcon
Cerus wrote:Properly built Euro Char will own Chinese in 1v1 or 8v8.
Lvling wise, euro is way faster.
Skill wise, chinese is more interesting.
Possible come back in future update?
What nest? Islam comes, both chinese and euro will be left behind?
Discuss.
fixed
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:39 pm
by RogueKiller
blackfalcon wrote:Cerus wrote:Properly built Euro Char will own Chinese in 1v1 or 8v8.
Lvling wise, euro is way faster.
Skill wise, chinese is more interesting.
Possible come back in future update?
What nest? Islam comes, both chinese and euro will be left behind?
Discuss.
fixed
+1
The chinese moves look awesome compared to the euro ones.
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:48 pm
by Phix
RogueKiller wrote:blackfalcon wrote:Cerus wrote:Properly built Euro Char will own Chinese in 1v1 or 8v8.
Lvling wise, euro is way faster.
Skill wise, chinese is more interesting.
Possible come back in future update?
What nest? Islam comes, both chinese and euro will be left behind?
Discuss.
fixed
+1
The chinese moves look awesome compared to the euro ones.
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RogueKiller wrote:blackfalcon wrote:Cerus wrote:Properly built Euro Char will own Chinese in 1v1 or 8v8.
Lvling wise, euro is way faster.
Skill wise, chinese is more interesting.
Possible come back in future update?
What nest? Islam comes, both chinese and euro will be left behind?
Discuss.
+2
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:33 pm
by DragonTalon
RogueKiller wrote:blackfalcon wrote:Cerus wrote:Properly built Euro Char will own Chinese in 1v1 or 8v8.
Lvling wise, euro is way faster.
Skill wise, chinese is more interesting.
Possible come back in future update?
What nest? Islam comes, both chinese and euro will be left behind?
Discuss.
fixed
+1
The chinese moves look awesome compared to the euro ones.
True but euros do more damage. I just don't get how stabbing someone with daggers (rouge) does more than a frikken fireball (nuker).
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:56 pm
by Shiver
Chinese characters ftw
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:59 pm
by XMoshe
DragonTalon wrote:RogueKiller wrote:blackfalcon wrote:fixed
+1
The chinese moves look awesome compared to the euro ones.
True but euros do more damage. I just don't get how stabbing someone with daggers (rouge) does more than a frikken fireball (nuker).
Well..Two daggers between your ribs..or a little fireball on your head..I know what would hurt the most xD
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:10 am
by Quintus
A roundhouse kick to the face. Thats what.
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:24 am
by Barotix
they're equal, I'll edit this post on why.
copy + paste ftw!
Merely Speculation based on everything we know
so far i have ascertained this much:
Party:
European > Mixed = Islam > Chinese
Solo:
Chinese > Islam > European
E.G.:
Overall, European = Chinese = Islam. A.K.A. Balance
Elaborate:
If Chinese is the best at solo play overall and the worst at party play overall, then they're in the Middle ground Overall.
If European are the worst at solo overall and The best at party over all, then they're in the Middle ground Overall.
Therefore, Chinese = European. (here is where Islam complicates matters)
Islam is speculated, based on information laid ALL OVER the net, to be able to solo decently without much hindrance and be able to party well without ruining the potential efficiency of the party.
Now here is a illustration to explain matters: Imagine a rating, 1 being the lowest possible 3 being the highest. Then take the averages to get the overall balance, afterwards substitute the number in overall for the civilization corresponding with that overall category.
1--------2--------3
European:
[1]Solo
[3]Party
[2]Overall
Chinese:
[3]Solo
[1]Party
[2]Overall
Islam:
[2]Solo
[2]Party
[2]Overall
Overall:
so: [2]=[2]=[2]
Substitution: European = Islam = Chinese
Party: [3]>[2]>[1]
Substitution: European > Mixed=Islam > Chinese
Solo: [1]<[2]<[3]
Substitution: European < Islam < Chinese
So conclusion, Joymax planned the game well:
If you prefer party play, go European.
If you prefer solo play, go Chinese.
If you Like doing both every now and then, go Islamic.
I don't see the use of a 4th race, what would its purpose be?
Race One: The Lone Wolf
Race Two: The Follower or possibly a fledgling leader soon to be great
Race Three: The Fence Sitter. "Sometimes I feel like roughing it Chinese style, other times I need the warmth of a European woman, I mean party"
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:46 am
by NobleHunter
Easy:
Chinese Vs Euro: chinese has more chances to win
Euro party Vs Chinese party : euro party has more chances to win
PvP isnt an exact cience, an european character can also win against a chinese without problems, its all about gear and strategy.
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:49 am
by William-CL
Islam is still very unknown btw. It has speculation on some weapons but no skills yet. And china owns euro just as much. Euro just requires less skill and strategy. For euro its either kill, or be killed in a few hits.
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:10 am
by Progress
Who really gives a shit? Not like this game has a "future" - it's going to be dead before egypt/islam/arab or what ever they are gonna call it, is released.
Interesting to note that most people now understand that euros were/are significantly stronger than chinese. I remember when so many of you were in denial (you know who you are).
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:29 am
by HyorunmarouZ
Progress wrote:Who really gives a shit? Not like this game has a "future" - it's going to be dead before egypt/islam/arab or what ever they are gonna call it, is released.
Interesting to note that most people now understand that euros were/are significantly stronger than chinese. I remember when so many of you were in denial (you know who you are).
SRO won't die as long as there's still someone who wants to play/bot in it. And even if it died, this version is not the only one, there's still kSRO, cSRO, jSRO, vSRO and tSRO, they can still get these updates and people interested could still play one of those versions.
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:01 am
by nohunta
How many times must it be said... ALL RACES ARE EQUAL NONE ARE OVER-POWERED!!!
The only difference is how the person pvp's, and how there character is built.
Re: Chinese possible come back?
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:09 am
by subzero
Phix wrote:i think euro will pwn Chinese, Chinese will Pwn Islam and Islam will pwn Euro (think of Triangular Conflict)
+1