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Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:53 pm
by huejas
Well i started a new char and didnt really wanna spent months getting power farmed at ongs. I guess i prob should have at least went from lv.19-32 there. :banghead: Anyways im lv.32 now, and really regretting not getting power farmed. I was thinking to delvl but its pointless since id have to delvl all my skills. So should i just keep leveling with a gap, farm with a 9 gap, or get pfarmed at sosungsung/sonars?

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:58 pm
by Hellraider
Start a new char?

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:01 am
by Behemoth
[SW]Hellraider wrote:Start a new char?

agreed, lv32 unfarmed char is pretty much useless anyway and gettin pfarmed is the best way to go when makin new chars.

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:22 am
by Braka
start a new char.

agreed powerfarm will make ur later game much more enjoyable with u being able to grind with 0 gap, and with the new 5 hour ticket u will prolly only need to pfarm for 1 month to have more then enough for 90 cap :D gl and hf with all the delvling

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:36 am
by Berto
New char, I powerfarmed a 30 chinese with every mastery skill within the GT ticket time that came with the char. Get errr dun

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:52 am
by huejas
hmm so every1 is saying to start a new char eh....i like my char tho and have a bit sp farmed up so what if i were to delvl masteries from lv.24-10(bow/fire/light)? Any how much would that cost :roll:

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:53 am
by Hitman144
im farming 600k (90 cap :)), and someone helped me get like 30k in 1 day at ong it was awsome i wish it was like that everyday lol :roll: :)

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:47 am
by huejas
Okay decided what il do, im gonna bring skills down to 20 and get pfarmed at ongs from 29-32/33/????? then repeat. I got Premium+Skill Ticket and found myself a lv.76 nuker to do the job. He says he does like 5 hours a day(which is while im sleeping), plus ill find another guy to pfarm me while at school. So lets say 10 hours a day with 3 hours of triple SP, how much will i get?

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:42 am
by nosoyeso
Hitman144 wrote:im farming 600k (90 cap :)), and someone helped me get like 30k in 1 day at ong it was awsome i wish it was like that everyday lol :roll: :)



you need more than 600k for 90 cap (maybe not if you are euro)

@huejas

you should start a new char you can get to your currently level in a few hours... :banghead:

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:51 am
by Haha07
nosoyeso wrote:
Hitman144 wrote:im farming 600k (90 cap :)), and someone helped me get like 30k in 1 day at ong it was awsome i wish it was like that everyday lol :roll: :)



you need more than 600k for 90 cap (maybe not if you are euro)

@huejas

you should start a new char you can get to your currently level in a few hours... :banghead:


nah man actually you wont need more then 500k. The average build for the 90 cap is around 730k-750k sp. farm 500k at the ongs and then you get 231k for leveling up to 90 :roll:

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:17 am
by huejas
UPDATED: Okay started farming at ongs, at lv.32 w/ 9 gap. Currently i get 4.2k in 3 hours(1.4k/h) while on premium and skill ticket(200% extra total). Plus somewhere about 100 purification seeds/h so after 5 hours thast 500 seed=2.5k sp. So at this rate, if i were to farm between 29-33 than delvl and do it all over, id be getting 7.7k in 5 hours (4.2k on tickets+2.5 from seeds+0.5k each extra hour). If i do an extra 5 hours, il be at about 10k per day. :shock: :)

My Question: Would i be getting drastically more SP if i were to delvl skills down to lv.10 or to something more reasonable like lv.17 and farm from 26-33? (currently doing 31-33)

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:03 am
by Mameluke
Yes, delevel your highest mastery to lvl 10 or 11. I had mine on 11 and with premium and skill ticket i made 7k sp in 3 hours...

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:01 am
by LheraJ
yea i do 14 gap , mastery's at 10 so i don't have to dlvl much

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:04 am
by Hellraider
Masteries at 10 you can do 9-10k sp / 3 hours of premium ticket+skill ticket
And stay within lvl20-27

If you want some more info about Ong farming take a look here:

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=71661

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:12 am
by tedtwilliger
you do realize farming with a 9 gap in a full euro party is quicker than being power farmed at ongs.. right?

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:20 am
by Binning
Eugh I hate the idea of powerfarming, what happened to good old grinding? In my opinion powerfarming is just as bad if not WORSE than botting. After all, you're away watching TV while someone else is doing all the work for you - sound familiar?. It's an unfair advantage because not everyone has access to powerfarming. I would rather hand grind everything on my own and get a much bigger sense of achievement once my farming is complete.

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:56 am
by Fireblazer
huejas wrote:UPDATED: Okay started farming at ongs, at lv.32 w/ 9 gap. Currently i get 4.2k in 3 hours(1.4k/h) while on premium and skill ticket(200% extra total). Plus somewhere about 100 purification seeds/h so after 5 hours thast 500 seed=2.5k sp. So at this rate, if i were to farm between 29-33 than delvl and do it all over, id be getting 7.7k in 5 hours (4.2k on tickets+2.5 from seeds+0.5k each extra hour). If i do an extra 5 hours, il be at about 10k per day. :shock: :)

My Question: Would i be getting drastically more SP if i were to delvl skills down to lv.10 or to something more reasonable like lv.17 and farm from 26-33? (currently doing 31-33)


i would suggest you to delvl your mastery more like 10 or something because 1.4k/h sp with both tickets is really low.. i get almost the same amount without a ticket

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:06 pm
by Braka
huejas wrote:UPDATED: Okay started farming at ongs, at lv.32 w/ 9 gap. Currently i get 4.2k in 3 hours(1.4k/h) while on premium and skill ticket(200% extra total). Plus somewhere about 100 purification seeds/h so after 5 hours thast 500 seed=2.5k sp. So at this rate, if i were to farm between 29-33 than delvl and do it all over, id be getting 7.7k in 5 hours (4.2k on tickets+2.5 from seeds+0.5k each extra hour). If i do an extra 5 hours, il be at about 10k per day. :shock: :)

My Question: Would i be getting drastically more SP if i were to delvl skills down to lv.10 or to something more reasonable like lv.17 and farm from 26-33? (currently doing 31-33)

eh ur trying to say ur gona "hand" grind for 10 hours per day? wrong section mabe lol

u should start over, u can get in that 10 hours of sitting around 20k+ per day, i think its much more worth it for u to start over in the long run seriously just think about it... :banghead: :banghead:

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:14 pm
by Waisha
tedtwilliger wrote:you do realize farming with a 9 gap in a full euro party is quicker than being power farmed at ongs.. right?

How is that? Not if you are alone with the powerlvler in the party.

sharing the xp with 1 char VS sharing the xp with 7 chars - hmm...

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:40 pm
by huejas
Another Update: my SP/h went up for some reason...now getting 1.7-1.8k/h on premium and skill ticket. Collecting hearts so im slowly delvling skill. As of now planning to take skills down to lv.16 so i can have 9 gap at lv.25, and i will get pfarmed from 25-30 then delvl to 25 again. Delvling from 30-19 takes to dam long anyways so il just go 25-30 and get more sp then now, although less than at 19 but still decent.

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:09 pm
by huejas
Okay so i delvled my masteries to lv.21 (only had that much hearts) and at lv.30 with 9 gap im getting 0.7-0.8k an hour...which i think is pretty good. I'm going to take masteries to 16 as i said once i get enough hearts. So at lv.25 i think i can get at least 1k/h and 9k in 3 hours of tickets :)

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:53 pm
by HellsAdvocate
make a new character, if you really want a lvl 40 unfarmed character just pm one of the kids u see honor farming and they will usually give you a new char.

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:31 am
by huejas
HellsAdvocate wrote:make a new character, if you really want a lvl 40 unfarmed character just pm one of the kids u see honor farming and they will usually give you a new char.


gotta love when ppl dont read the whole thread :banghead:

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:02 pm
by Braka
huejas wrote:Okay so i delvled my masteries to lv.21 (only had that much hearts) and at lv.30 with 9 gap im getting 0.7-0.8k an hour...which i think is pretty good. I'm going to take masteries to 16 as i said once i get enough hearts. So at lv.25 i think i can get at least 1k/h and 9k in 3 hours of tickets :)

well when i was powerfarming at ongs and the party was set perfectly so that there is a bonus from the amount of players in party and 2 grinders i got in 10mins 2k sp so i think u should restart, ye u mabe waisted 1-2 months on ur char with gold ticket etc but comeon in the long run ur gona save urself mabe 3+ months of playing before being capped etc

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:18 pm
by huejas
Braka wrote:
huejas wrote:Okay so i delvled my masteries to lv.21 (only had that much hearts) and at lv.30 with 9 gap im getting 0.7-0.8k an hour...which i think is pretty good. I'm going to take masteries to 16 as i said once i get enough hearts. So at lv.25 i think i can get at least 1k/h and 9k in 3 hours of tickets :)

well when i was powerfarming at ongs and the party was set perfectly so that there is a bonus from the amount of players in party and 2 grinders i got in 10mins 2k sp so i think u should restart, ye u mabe waisted 1-2 months on ur char with gold ticket etc but comeon in the long run ur gona save urself mabe 3+ months of playing before being capped etc

why would i start over when i can just delvl masteries? :?

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:20 pm
by iGod
Waisha wrote:
tedtwilliger wrote:you do realize farming with a 9 gap in a full euro party is quicker than being power farmed at ongs.. right?

How is that? Not if you are alone with the powerlvler in the party.

sharing the xp with 1 char VS sharing the xp with 7 chars - hmm...


Or if its you, the powerlvler and a couple of lvl1 characters for double exp..

Re: Missed out at ongs...

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:19 am
by tedtwilliger
-sigh-

Heres how the system works

If you have a lvl 80 character power leveling a lvl 1 character, there is an exp penalty. For you see, the higher the level of the party the less exp you receive per mob. Now i am not referring to the 4x / 8x times rule here, in general you get more exp per mob if your parties level is lower.

Now think about it, a lvl 80 character is power farming a lvl 22 character at ongs.

ong = lvl 33/34
22 + 80 = 102

To get the normal 8x exp per party mob, u need 2 other lvl 1 characters in the pt
But wait, now you have 4 people in the party so your sharing the exp 4 ways + the exp penalty you receive in general and you only have 1 person attacking mobs

Now with a full european party thats 11 levels below your mobs with no exp penalty, + the fact that everyone attacks mobs ( par cleric and possibly bard ) i think i know which one i will be choosing.