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OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:01 am
by emperor3000
Like i saw this video on youtube right, and i saw this person using invisible and then gets on his/hers ox.
Then he/she goes and take the loot riding the ox without being seen by the hunters.
So can anyone clarify to me that if You use stealth/invisible skill then gets on transport, will make the transport invisible.
Heres the video to prove my statements.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rpqh6Mav3kM
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:03 am
by Sylhana
Yup. Thats how we thief on Herc :/. There is a catch, its not a perfect stealth/invis.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:14 am
by Palisade
yup, the trasport still has a shadow. Be surprised how many actually miss that lol
But now with PK2 -.- invisible just don't feel too safe anymore
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:16 am
by arctic197
lol Genius shit.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:27 am
by Sylhana
Palisade wrote:But now with PK2 -.- invisible just don't feel too safe anymore
Morningdew wrote:We are aware of this problem and have reported it to Korea so it can be fixed. Please be patient.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:38 am
by -.-
heh... didnt they report the bot problem too?
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:42 am
by Sylhana
-.- wrote:heh... didnt they report the bot problem too?
Do I need to quote the massive bot ban? 
. In good time, we'll see if they'll do enough.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:50 am
by -.-
massive bot ban? sro page to it went missing
lol
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:54 am
by Sylhana
-.- wrote:massive bot ban? sro page to it went missing
lol
Its still there, just got pushed down due to other announcements.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:10 am
by William-CL
Palisade wrote:yup, the trasport still has a shadow. Be surprised how many actually miss that lol
But now with PK2 -.- invisible just don't feel too safe anymore
Well that's why it isn't allowed here I dont think.(invis/stealth pk2). And the caravan shadow is prolly missed cause some ppl turn it off to reduce lag.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:24 am
by DaZzY
wow they are going to try fix the pk2 edit for seeing invisible and stealth?
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:42 am
by the_wicked
>.< wrote:wow they are going to try fix the pk2 edit for seeing invisible and stealth?
Hope so. Its unfair.
I hope they fix the 2H sword KB then KD glitch, i bug reported that its really annoying.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:42 pm
by Oden
Yeah I agree, that invis hack is really putting a mood-kill on the game. If this game isnt bad enough, this happenes. Whats even more funny is my guild had a party of 15 theifs still have to use that hack to beat 5 of my hunters doing a trade run.
Then they have the nerve to say that they owned us. lol
Sorry for getting off-topic. Yes the traders can go invis with their trader animal, but the shadow will still show (slightly).
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:24 pm
by ShadowSpell
anouther trick is to go a ways back from the loot and spawn your transport, then go invisible, the transport will not follow you, then you can run up and steal the goods and then go back to your transport and you dont have to worry about your transports shadow.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:28 pm
by Oden
ShadowSpell wrote:anouther trick is to go a ways back from the loot and spawn your transport, then go invisible, the transport will not follow you, then you can run up and steal the goods and then go back to your transport and you dont have to worry about your transports shadow.
Dont forget about npc theif spawns, and you can only go so far from your transport.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:33 pm
by ShadowSpell
Oden wrote:ShadowSpell wrote:anouther trick is to go a ways back from the loot and spawn your transport, then go invisible, the transport will not follow you, then you can run up and steal the goods and then go back to your transport and you dont have to worry about your transports shadow.
Dont forget about npc theif spawns, and you can only go so far from your transport.
yep the most I could ever pick up before my spawn came out and killed my oxe was 700k, but atleast the goods are away and usually the hunters dont have a clue what happened, then just respawn a new bull and pick them back up, this is how I always do it.
when you get back on the transport and it goes invisible also does your npc hunters spawn and still attack your transport and make it visible again?
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:01 pm
by Oden
Well from a hunters point of view I do not know. Its possible, but being hit normally takes you out of invis.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:02 pm
by Aryss
im against that pk2 thing like im against unsuited clerics and buffers and dc's of transports during trade runs, if you see both sides of the coin ( thief & hunter/trader):
thief: using pk2 stuff = exploit the game bugs
hunter/trader: using unsuited cleric/buffer & dc transport = exploit the game bugs
so Oden, your union is the King of the lame tactics @ trade runs no point in arguing about this.
Actually traders can take more advantage of that since invisible/stealth thiefs cant spy in towns anymore.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:08 pm
by foudre
looser using an un suited cleric, pff
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:12 pm
by Aryss
well its a shame that in Hercules all the Trader Unions use that lame tactics but whatever they feel proud of it.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:13 pm
by foudre
on my cleric i wouldn't even help a unioned guild fight a guild war, because i felt it was cheating. sigh i hate people who can't understand competition
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:17 pm
by ShadowSpell
Aryss wrote:im against that pk2 thing like im against unsuited clerics and buffers and dc's of transports during trade runs, if you see both sides of the coin ( thief & hunter/trader):
thief: using pk2 stuff = exploit the game bugs
hunter/trader: using unsuited cleric/buffer & dc transport = exploit the game bugs
so Oden, your union is the King of the lame tactics @ trade runs no point in arguing about this.
Actually traders can take more advantage of that since invisible/stealth thiefs cant spy in towns anymore.
since when cant you spy in town, I was doing it last night
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:20 pm
by Aryss
since the hunters and traders can use the pk2 edit to see invisible and stealth, rogues and wizards are useless to spy at towns.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:25 pm
by Oden
Actually, we have used unsuited clerics (a few times) due to the fact that several thief guilds did it as well. It still is not a hack. And it takes 1 minute to DC a trader, in which they can not move (only pot). ALSO, I personally have seen thief’s DC as well so we could not get out trade back.
As long as that invis hack is around, I don’t think the thief’s have any room to talk about the tactics of hunters. I only know 2 hunters in my union that actually got that hack, but they got it to see what it does and do not use it regularly.
I know not all thief’s use/support that hack, but its the fact that you and other very good players still associate yourself with the ones that use it. You lose a lot of creditability due to that fact.
Before you even say that I am in a guild that has botters, well, name ONE guild on any server that does not have at least one botter in it....
I am not proud of it and I wish they would not do it, but until JM does something to block the bot programs, its here to stay..
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:29 pm
by ShadowSpell
Aryss wrote:since the hunters and traders can use the pk2 edit to see invisible and stealth, rogues and wizards are useless to spy at towns.
lol, so 100% of people are using pk2 editing, try maybe .5%
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:32 pm
by Oden
Aryss wrote:im against that pk2 thing like im against unsuited clerics and buffers and dc's of transports during trade runs, if you see both sides of the coin ( thief & hunter/trader):
thief: using pk2 stuff = exploit the game bugs
hunter/trader: using unsuited cleric/buffer & dc transport = exploit the game bugs
so Oden, your union is the King of the lame tactics @ trade runs no point in arguing about this.
Actually traders can take more advantage of that since invisible/stealth thiefs cant spy in towns anymore.
Listen man. dc'ing is not a exploit. Neither is an unsuited cleric buffing someone. At least make your statements correct. Its just a poor tactic. Just like camping in any FPS game, it happenes, but not looked good upon.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:48 pm
by Aryss
they all result in the same = make the game lame
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:48 pm
by ShadowSpell
Oden wrote:it takes 1 minute to DC a trader,
no by having your task manager open and ending the process by killing the exe. it takes 1 second.
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:57 pm
by Oden
ShadowSpell wrote:Oden wrote:it takes 1 minute to DC a trader,
no by having your task manager open and ending the process by killing the exe. it takes 1 second.
Bzzzz wrong. The Trader will still be in game for a while before he times out.
Aryss, I agree, yes it is lame. Fight fire with fire then?
Re: OMG can stealth/invisible make you caravan thing too???
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:02 pm
by klemmyez
A few month ago, we can do it
on ksro, You summon camel, make invisible, than you make your char ride the camel, with that you can trad a 5*. Just take care when you need make again invisible skill .. if you make it when your thieff spawn = dead xD.
But they have change it -_-, maybe because a french was 1st trader on them server lol.