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EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:03 pm
by subzero
im tired of everyone sayin euro ownz..they do not..chinese rule now and will rule at future caps. Why u ask?

cuz euros have pot delay
they only good for doin 1 skill invisible and then dieing
even with cleric buffs they cant tank as much as a full INT chinese with the same buffs and snow shield

yes, their dmg is great..but who rlly wants to run out...do 1 skill, then get dropped? its no fun..


EuRos sux
chinese FTW

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:06 pm
by Master_Mind
+1 couldnt agree more!

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:09 pm
by Sinner
Agree with that :)

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:10 pm
by Haha07
Please go against a pure str warrior with a cleric subclass...they are ridiculously good in pvp. There is one in Xian that can kill a full suned glavier.

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:10 pm
by VeniVidiVici
I agree

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:12 pm
by Blindfire
Neither is better, you people don't realise than pvp is anyones game assuming they are the same level, pvp is basically first skill wins or first stun or kd wins. Anyone can beat anyone.

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:13 pm
by PureStr
subzero wrote:EuRos sux
chinese FTW


I feel that someone never partied with 80s euros...

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:15 pm
by NuclearSilo
Then what do u think vigor is for?

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:16 pm
by bakafish
Blindfire wrote:Neither is better, you people don't realise than pvp is anyones game assuming they are the same level, pvp is basically first skill wins or first stun or kd wins. Anyone can beat anyone.

I was wondering why would someone make a comment like this, then i saw his char was just 2x.

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:19 pm
by Blindfire
BakaFish wrote:
Blindfire wrote:Neither is better, you people don't realise than pvp is anyones game assuming they are the same level, pvp is basically first skill wins or first stun or kd wins. Anyone can beat anyone.

I was wondering why would someone make a comment like this, then i saw his char was just 2x.



I've seen pvp, I've seen euros dominate and I've seen them dominated, level means nothing. Ever thought that maybe I have higher level chracters on other servers that I left to join Venus?

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:19 pm
by Haha07
BakaFish wrote:
Blindfire wrote:Neither is better, you people don't realise than pvp is anyones game assuming they are the same level, pvp is basically first skill wins or first stun or kd wins. Anyone can beat anyone.

I was wondering why would someone make a comment like this, then i saw his char was just 2x.



lol

Also have you even seen like a wizard/warlock i mean damn i cant even hit them before they stun me or put me to sleep. Then they change to wizard and nuke the living shit outta me.

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:22 pm
by bakafish
Blindfire wrote:
BakaFish wrote:
Blindfire wrote:Neither is better, you people don't realise than pvp is anyones game assuming they are the same level, pvp is basically first skill wins or first stun or kd wins. Anyone can beat anyone.

I was wondering why would someone make a comment like this, then i saw his char was just 2x.



I've seen pvp, I've seen euros dominate and I've seen them dominated, level means nothing. Ever thought that maybe I have higher level chracters on other servers that I left to join Venus?

I tried to think that way... didn't work for me. Any experience player would know that PVP isn't just based on who does what first, it would also be based on gears, builds, and etc.

Haha07 wrote:
BakaFish wrote:
Blindfire wrote:Neither is better, you people don't realise than pvp is anyones game assuming they are the same level, pvp is basically first skill wins or first stun or kd wins. Anyone can beat anyone.

I was wondering why would someone make a comment like this, then i saw his char was just 2x.



lol

Also have you even seen like a wizard/warlock i mean damn i cant even hit them before they stun me or put me to sleep. Then they change to wizard and nuke the living shit outta me.

Is everyone pvping wizard/warlock? Chance are, No. So don't go categorize all pvp as such. Some might, but mostly don't, especially the disgusting pot war between Chinese players.

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:25 pm
by -.-
um... euro are good as chinese :S

you say they do 1 skill and either kill or win... in 1 vs 1 that's enough... only time they die is when it isnt 1 vs 1... and how many chinese do you know can tank 1 vs 2 of same lvl and beat both

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:30 pm
by Qosta420
your definatly wrong. the sheer fact that a wizard with a +5 gear and a cleric subclass can 1hit ko a full sun glaiver, ive seen it with my own eyes, like it or not thats ownage, euroes do more damage, they have better defensive skills, KD+Knockback attacks that will get you down 90% of the time, warlocks with debuf that make you weaker and move and attack slower so by the time you get close to getting a nuke off your already dead (thats with around half 8D sos +5 gear, legs, feet, shield and sword, and +400 hp on my head chest and legs) even with snow shield i get owned when against normal chinese chars i am realy powerfull, add to that anoying skills such as invisibility and the ungoldy high crits that can alow a full str crossbow to 1 or 2 hit you (depending on wether your str or int) before you can get an attack. even with realy good (ie full sun) gear a chinese char can not compete with a euro (even with relitivley shitty gear) theres no question that Euroes own, they even ks me when im grinding and as a 1:7 int hybrid with an sos +5 8D sword thats exceptional, and even one on one, with only its own buffs it can own me (and most chinese chars) in pvp. so essentialy your wrong. completly

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:31 pm
by Nihuja
subzero wrote:EuRos sux


hey mr, here have a nice cup of shut the **** off. bla bla bla, they suck i rule, you need to have brains to play with euros,

nuff said.

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:37 pm
by InsertName
lock plz this is becoming a flame tread :x

euro and chinese abilities are based on personal preferences

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:39 pm
by 123noob
You sure about that? during the last CTF event I invis, sneaked in on other side and own 2 chinese (1 int 1 str) and another rogue with my des dagger. They all were atking me as well... well took the rogue down in first hit, then after that went to the int. Then I camped there and own 4 more before I die... so yes they do own if you got any idea of what to do.

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:40 pm
by crazy_foo
euro warrior is closest u can get to Chinese as far as tanking and with cleric sub class and recovery division it rocks the place. I'm building one he's currently lvl 58 :P In my opinion then can tank as much as a sword hybrid nuker but with extremely good phy dmg too :)

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:44 pm
by Super8
I saw a euro 2H / cleric with +7 sword and +5 heavy armor take out a very strong sun glavie +9 player just a little while ago.


Also, as a rouge I was able to do well against 80s in the lower 7x, now that I'm 78 I can own almost any chinese 80 in a 1v1, aside from bow.

Sorry but, euro's don't suck.
You suck :).

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:55 pm
by Nitro
Well... the game is way to unbalanced ... Euro is for party play... every euro has its big advantange and big disadvatange ... We can compare it with puzzle ... One, lets say Wizard is one piece of puzzle ... When the Warrior joins him , the puzzle is bigger and the they ability to survive is bigger , the dmg is bigger and they are stronger overall ... They fill eachothers disadvantages. While China characters are moderate in everything ...

Lets see some paint skillz ...

Euro
We can see that euro fills up each other ... The Wizard gives party a power and agility (lets say he is sub bard with swing march :) )
While the Warrior gives the party defense and ability to survive.
Image


China
They are moderate in everything ... no disadvantages nor advantanges ... They add up each other
a little bit in every field (Power , Defense , Ability to Survive and Agility) ... but not much.
Image

Overall
Euro - Party Play
China - Solo
1v1- Luck and Gear

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:56 pm
by _Shinigami_
subzero you noob :roll:

i bet you just getting owned in pvp and just mad

that or either you were killing low lvl euro's and you think they suck.

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:08 pm
by crazy_foo
I like your pictures nitro it actually makes sense XD

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:13 pm
by InsertName
_Shinigami_ wrote:subzero you noob :roll:

i bet you just getting owned in pvp and just mad

that or either you were killing low lvl euro's and you think they suck.


i think its both :P

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:14 pm
by Nitro
crazy_foo wrote:I like your pictures nitro it actually makes sense XD

Well... hehe thx :D Thats just my paint skillz !!
*I wanted to do this in excel but...*

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:15 pm
by NO_SILK_4_ME
crazy_foo wrote:I like your pictures nitro it actually makes sense XD


Hmm...I +1 that, but I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not :/

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:22 pm
by X4rd4S
subzero wrote:im tired of everyone sayin euro ownz..they do not..chinese rule now and will rule at future caps. Why u ask?

cuz euros have pot delay
they only good for doin 1 skill invisible and then dieing
even with cleric buffs they cant tank as much as a full INT chinese with the same buffs and snow shield

yes, their dmg is great..but who rlly wants to run out...do 1 skill, then get dropped? its no fun..


EuRos sux
chinese FTW


Did you have 70+ euro?
Probably no. So please dont speak about something that you dont know about.

I had high lvl bouth of them.
Evry race have own advantages.
Chinese dont have potion delay, but comparing to euro their damage is ridicilous.
Euro have potion delay, but euro pwn in 1 shoot.

Its all up to player to choose what he like.
But neither of them sux, only noob and non experienced player would say that.

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:27 pm
by MrFudge
I honestly can't think of a euro build that pwns besides 2h/cleric or maybe 1h/warlock.

Rogues and Wizards are just another free kill with the emergence of pk2 editing.

And I have never seen a wizard 1-nuke a full sun chinese. From what I've seen a lone wizard does about 18k dmg with their meteor nuke to a +5 garm set str char...

And I could tank Sylhanas +9 daggers with desperate on after I did snow shield and Impotent vital spot with a +0 set lol. And no, a rogue or wiz can't sneak up on me. And you can't call me a cheater cuz these forums haven't banned pk2 editing <3

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:28 pm
by crazy_foo
NO_SILK_4_ME wrote:
crazy_foo wrote:I like your pictures nitro it actually makes sense XD


Hmm...I +1 that, but I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not :/

No sarcasm was intended.

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:32 pm
by KneeGrow
IMO:
I'm Starting to think that all full sun glaivers in other servers suck increadibly to die to a euro 1v1 (even when the euro is buffed.

Euros are fun, but the way I see people use them is pathetically stupid, buff-invis/stealth-kill run like shit, wth... rarely do you see a full party of euros buffing each others working as a team, which is total anal rapage.

and also euros give the opportunity of mindless people who suck at the game to drop 15k damage and say "i Farking own you!!!!!" when that same person can get slaped with a glaive and die (personal experience)

Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:37 pm
by Airbeat
IMO - WARRIORS is the best in euro class, and pretty pwnage when it comes to fighting chinese too.
They get insane crits, and have good defence.. :roll: Thats why im making a warrior :)