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which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:30 pm
by Megami
Which str build is best for 90 cap? i'm trying to decide on whether i should change from bower to glavie or blader? i need opinions, so which do you think will dominate 90 cap for str chinese? :]

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:32 pm
by Sharpy
i'll be sure to let you know

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:32 pm
by Krypt1c
WHAT ? :shock:
which str build is best for 80cap ? or 70cap?
i didnt vote

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:33 pm
by Barotix
Glaive is popular, but blade gets certain "bonuses" at level 20 during the 90 cap.

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:51 pm
by the_wicked
Pure hybrid 1:1 blader with cold and light maxed, only cold imbue. No kd's or stabs just devil cut and snake sword. it ownz

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:57 pm
by AkillerNXC
Glavier gets nothing new except ghost spear. Bows won't be as good as they are this cap. Not much new... so my guess would be blader, new kd, new stab, the shield buff thingy...

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:59 pm
by THE_ZUL
glavie as always :)

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:17 pm
by Sacrament
70cap=glavie
80cap=bow
90cap=blade

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:32 am
by _SomeOne_
Sacrament wrote:70cap=glavie
80cap=bow
90cap=blade

60cap=blade
70cap=glavie
80cap=glavie
90cap=glavieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:34 am
by CLOT
_SomeOne_ wrote:
Sacrament wrote:70cap=glavie
80cap=bow
90cap=blade

60cap=blade
70cap=glavie
80cap=glavie
90cap=glavieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


u shld already know that glaive doesnt own any more at tis cap wif nuker's snow shield and euro coming up, not the nxt cap as well, heuskal has no new skills

bow got 6 hit KB combo at 90 or 100?
imagine 5 hit and 6 hit KB 1 after another...

blader gets new shield buff increase phy dmg, + new triple stab

time for glaive ruling over any other build is already over, long time ago

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:30 am
by tedtwilliger
The thing with the knock backs is its over abused. People seem to spam it so much but it deals so little damage. People should only use it in a time when they need that bit of extra tanking, or else trying to kill becomes much harder doing so little damage. It really just gives your opponent another opportunity to pot up.

If bow gets a new book of devil arrow, my bets on a very slight str hybrid bow. But again we wont know until we get the cap. Just play what you think is the most fun for now. If you make it to lvl 90, you can test than and if you dont like your current weapon its possible to change over easily.

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:16 am
by _Scarlett_
tedtwilliger wrote:The thing with the knock backs is its over abused. People seem to spam it so much but it deals so little damage. People should only use it in a time when they need that bit of extra tanking, or else trying to kill becomes much harder doing so little damage. It really just gives your opponent another opportunity to pot up.

If bow gets a new book of devil arrow, my bets on a very slight str hybrid bow. But again we wont know until we get the cap. Just play what you think is the most fun for now. If you make it to lvl 90, you can test than and if you dont like your current weapon its possible to change over easily.


The best thing we can give is only speculation on what we believe to be 'better' at the next cap...until we get 90cap, and people get capped and farmed, we won't know anything.

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:20 am
by THE_ZUL
snow shield give int some life :)

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:20 am
by arctic197
Archer.

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:37 am
by MrFudge
tedtwilliger wrote:The thing with the knock backs is its over abused. People seem to spam it so much but it deals so little damage. People should only use it in a time when they need that bit of extra tanking, or else trying to kill becomes much harder doing so little damage. It really just gives your opponent another opportunity to pot up.

If bow gets a new book of devil arrow, my bets on a very slight str hybrid bow. But again we wont know until we get the cap. Just play what you think is the most fun for now. If you make it to lvl 90, you can test than and if you dont like your current weapon its possible to change over easily.



bow gets a black devil arrow and a 6arrow combo along with a crit 15 strongbow and crit 40 antidevil.

that probably means their attacks will get weaker since itll be 100% knockback and crazy crit increases.
w
ho ever has 2+ archers while jobbing and a cleric will own since 2 books of knockback by 2+ archers basically cancels every attack ever.

watch AceOps sro pvp 3 and 4 to watch that annoying stuff, str based bows could become better 1v1 tankers than bladers.

glaivers will get their crazy HP passive, but it seems like they wouldnt be too great since a high HP passive would have to gimp them down a bit attack-wise.

bladers are lookin good, havent seen many ksro blader vids so i have no idea about them. Their attack buff combined with status effects could make em deadlier than they are now.

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:42 am
by tedtwilliger
Thats what i was refering to fudge, the 40 cit antidevil.

Plainly, a 40 crit increase in insane. Given a maxed crit sun bow nearly 2/3 of the time that move will crit, thats just friggen insane. But who knows, the skills damage could get gimped to make up for it.

And dont say knock back makes for a better tanker. The shield defense + kd + blocking + a shiled will always make a blader a better tanker. For all we know they might link the 5 and 6 hit combos cool downs together so that you cant use them back to back.

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:46 am
by MrFudge
ted, they're currently not linked in ksro.

if they link em in iSRO, that'll be strongbow link and arrow combo link, id be ready to quit the game.

lol.

link glaive stuns FFS, they stun every other hit with soul spear soul and emperor.

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:50 am
by tedtwilliger
ah i didnt know they weren't link is ksro, thanks for that

But like i said with bowers, glaivers who just use the stun moves.. they dont kill many people ( granted their gears are similar ). When they dont stun what do they accomplish? a very low damage move hitting someone. Geez i still see people use the second book >.>

People really gotta learn how to play their builds a bit better.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:20 am
by DarkJackal
I wouldn't be surprised if they made 5 and 6 Arrow Combo unable to be used back to back = uses the same cool down.


And 6 Arrow Combo starts at 94, so not until 100cap.

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:11 pm
by Master_Mind
i play csro where 90 cap is out and i can suree tell you BOW owns evrything and second place comes glavier and 3rd bladers. so if i were you i would go for bow at 90cap

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:42 pm
by DarkJackal
How about play the build you like, and not "what owns" ;d, it takes the know how and right gears to own anyway.

A Euro or sun bot is probably gonna kick your ass anyway lol.

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:55 pm
by NuclearSilo
Full farmed botter gold-buyer with full blues sosun+9 weapon Crit 20

Cap 120: blader fire/force owns with combo 6 status effect + vital spot + crit from 4 stabs down.

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:53 pm
by Barotix
NuclearSilo wrote:Full farmed botter gold-buyer with full blues sosun+9 weapon Crit 20

Cap 120: blader fire/force owns with combo 6 status effect + vital spot + crit from 4 stabs down.


120 cap blader = chinese warlock. They even get stun oO. I feel sry for any person tha bumps into a blader 90+ caps.

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:49 pm
by Alterran
i think its gona either be glaiver or blader and btw when 90 cap comes whos to say we get 90 skill? why wont it be like last time only the 80 cp came and we had to wait 1 year for the 80 cap skills

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:02 pm
by Barotix
Alterran wrote:i think its gona either be glaiver or blader and btw when 90 cap comes whos to say we get 90 skill? why wont it be like last time only the 80 cp came and we had to wait 1 year for the 80 cap skills


we had to wait one year because they didn't have the 80 skills ready. The other versions had level 90 with 70 cap skills for almost 2 years, then they got 80 and 90 skills back to back with Europe. Then we get Europe and 80 skills, and Ksro recently got 100 cap skills + 100 cap. which means that we Isro won't have the skills delayed on the basis of them already prepped. All they need to do is translate the files.

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:30 pm
by Vindicator
If joymax did one thing right in making this game, its balance. Just about any build can be extremely effective.

Of course, sometimes the cowardly wizards and rouges killing u from safe zone is unbalanced, but theres nothing u can do about a noob whos afraid to die :P

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:02 am
by jabbers
im bow/glaive right now so I'l just wait and see :twisted:

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:10 pm
by NuclearSilo
jabbers wrote:im bow/glaive right now so I'l just wait and see :twisted:

Yeah just wait to delevel a weapon tree at higher cap

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:25 pm
by ---Rev---
Str builds at 90 cap nobody realy knows which is best... most ksro str builds are glavie or bow so they still have the advantages and disadvantages that they do at this cap. Bladers are hard to come by in Ksro and for that reason it is hard to judge what benefits they have.

We have all seen the skills that each build will get at 90 cap... and we all know that the only one that gets a new skill is blader. The new skill while offering the blader a large increase in power, reduces its ability to tank to effectivly 0. It leaves them with a shield that only is 10% as effective as it once was and the fact that they have less hp than a glavier means that they will get rocked in pvp and job wars.

I would say the answer to which str build will be the best is simple... which ever you can play the best. Str builds qill not change that much from now to 90 cap.

Re: which str build is the best for 90

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:10 pm
by LillDev!l
well,
if a blader plays it smart he can use that move in 1vs1.
bleed + diversion and then turn it on ?
should be killing the oponent before he gets killed himself =]