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to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:46 am
by Rakion
i read some advice from ppl who have good luck on there side...
i bought it on a stall worth 400K+ or something but what i'm interested about is its crit. and luck i made it +3...
now its up you your opinion...
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well?

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:06 am
by Goobronicus
The problem with plussing is it's like drugs, once you start you can't stop (joking).

Actually, it is a problem, because if you get it to +4, you're going to want to go for +5, and then +6, etc. TBH, I settled for +3 weapons until 64 (start of 8D weapons) and then went +5 till 80. Course, I'm a wizard so I'm already too powerful even with a +3.

Did it go to +3 really easily (or did you buy it +3 and I just didn't understand). If it went easy, go for 4, if not, get it back to 3 again and be happy.

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:22 am
by Rakion
Goobronicus wrote:Did it go to +3 really easily (or did you buy it +3 and I just didn't understand). If it went easy, go for 4, if not, get it back to 3 again and be happy.

yes it did... it was +1 first with 6 lucky :)

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:25 am
by tedtwilliger
So it used 2 luckies trying to get to +3? I wouldn't bother +'ing it any further, just sell it now.

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:45 am
by Rakion
tedtwilliger wrote:So it used 2 luckies trying to get to +3? I wouldn't bother +'ing it any further, just sell it now.

what do you mean?...

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:49 am
by tedtwilliger
Rakion wrote:
tedtwilliger wrote:So it used 2 luckies trying to get to +3? I wouldn't bother +'ing it any further, just sell it now.

what do you mean?...


Rakion wrote:
Goobronicus wrote:Did it go to +3 really easily (or did you buy it +3 and I just didn't understand). If it went easy, go for 4, if not, get it back to 3 again and be happy.

yes it did... it was +1 first with 6 lucky :)


Well if i understand correctly, it had 6 lucky's originally. Now getting to +3 is one of the easiest alchemy benchmarks to do. Now if you used 2 lucky's trying to get to the +3, than my best instinct tells me that your weapon has a low natural luck value.. and the chance of getting +5 wouldn't be too great despite you having 4 lucky's still remaining. For this reason i wouldnt try to +5 it.

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:12 am
by bomben
just try
if it fails u can easily get it +3 again anyways

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:03 am
by Rakion
tedtwilliger wrote:
Rakion wrote:
tedtwilliger wrote:So it used 2 luckies trying to get to +3? I wouldn't bother +'ing it any further, just sell it now.

what do you mean?...


Rakion wrote:
Goobronicus wrote:Did it go to +3 really easily (or did you buy it +3 and I just didn't understand). If it went easy, go for 4, if not, get it back to 3 again and be happy.

yes it did... it was +1 first with 6 lucky :)


Well if i understand correctly, it had 6 lucky's originally. Now getting to +3 is one of the easiest alchemy benchmarks to do. Now if you used 2 lucky's trying to get to the +3, than my best instinct tells me that your weapon has a low natural luck value.. and the chance of getting +5 wouldn't be too great despite you having 4 lucky's still remaining. For this reason i wouldnt try to +5 it.


ok... i think i'll play safe.

but i'm still not convinced, anyways tnx for contributing your opinion tedtwilliger. you have set my mind to 75% not to +5 it. :)

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:06 pm
by wicked
tedtwilliger wrote:
Rakion wrote:
tedtwilliger wrote:So it used 2 luckies trying to get to +3? I wouldn't bother +'ing it any further, just sell it now.

what do you mean?...


Rakion wrote:
Goobronicus wrote:Did it go to +3 really easily (or did you buy it +3 and I just didn't understand). If it went easy, go for 4, if not, get it back to 3 again and be happy.

yes it did... it was +1 first with 6 lucky :)


Well if i understand correctly, it had 6 lucky's originally. Now getting to +3 is one of the easiest alchemy benchmarks to do. Now if you used 2 lucky's trying to get to the +3, than my best instinct tells me that your weapon has a low natural luck value.. and the chance of getting +5 wouldn't be too great despite you having 4 lucky's still remaining. For this reason i wouldnt try to +5 it.


Haha, that the biggest bull shit i ever heard, i lol'ed to for a sec :D
There's no such thing as "natural luck value"
own decission IMO.

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:23 pm
by Super8
plus it until either you get +5 or all the luckies are gone.
+3 is EASY.

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:08 pm
by aruin
:shock: omg DEAL>. +9 it

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:15 pm
by LillDev!l
hehe, i think a wep DOES have its own luck value.
since some weps go + 7 or even +9 in 1 try.
others go +6, fail +7 and go to +5/6 just as easely again.

others simpely wont reach +5 no matter how hard you try.

i agree with tedtwilliger, using 2 luckies to go to +3, wont have to much of a chance going to +4/5.

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:34 pm
by wicked
-.- when u put luck on ur wep u automatically use the luck even when u try it +1...
Alchemy shit is all based on LUCK, LUCK and LUCK. No things like natural luck.

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:42 pm
by _Shinigami_
i would not +

even with luck, its going to fail :(

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:26 pm
by LillDev!l
wicked wrote:-.- when u put luck on ur wep u automatically use the luck even when u try it +1...


not true xD ive +'ed enough weps with lucky, sometimes the lucky just stays on it :)

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:02 am
by Ryoko
LillDev!l wrote:
wicked wrote:-.- when u put luck on ur wep u automatically use the luck even when u try it +1...


not true xD ive +'ed enough weps with lucky, sometimes the lucky just stays on it :)


See also

Ryoko wrote:Don't think anyone knows how lucky 'truly' works. Neither do I. But heres a hypothetical theory.

You fail. You use a lucky. Its not enough - you still fail.
You fail. You use a lucky. Its enough - and succeeds.
You succeed. No lucky used.

From
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18488&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:26 am
by tedtwilliger
wicked wrote:Haha, that the biggest bull shit i ever heard, i lol'ed to for a sec :D
There's no such thing as "natural luck value"
own decission IMO.


Your actually wrong. Proof is as follows.

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Next time dont say anything unless you can back it up.

Re: to + or not to + i need you opionions

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:54 am
by Rakion
i made a poll