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The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:25 am
by Niton
*Well as a matter of fact, what you about to read is something really serious about the whole game play arena of human behavior towards oneself and the other*
As you can see from my signature, i just left avalon, for no reason. From what you are goin to hear is the reason and the big negativity which lies beyond them, avalon. sry, noobvalon.
If people would take so much pride/credit of their achievement and constantly portraying it on daily basis makin me staying in avalon will have such a great impact on my communication towars the other. If there is more nicer people i can talk to outside the range of my position (as 100% legit) rather then sitting in a guild while only chatting with few people who really cares about the lowbies (I'm 64 consider lowbie btw), hence my whole virtual social would havent been great, making the game less fun anyway. I laugh sometimes when the authority have to tease the other guild of losing gw/fw but you dont have to treat them constantly as loser as anyway.
Appreciation towards the others is so vital that it is requisite for stronger community. When some few people union that they want to leave venus and went to hera, do you scold them? If fly really does decide to use the force way of getting your community stronger then that is entirely ridiculous
Begging is a request for help, as if now that people treat begging as something that we should avoid of lending a hand. We want to create a maximum happiness, then to decide what is wrong or right, is viewing to see how happy is that person you can make. If there is a beggar in jangan, asking for 10k, would you like to make someone happy today? or making yourself satisfied which is selfish? how does people look on you then? The principle of being a human is happy is right, unhappy is wrong, you make both people happy by charity, by asking if your guildmate have any problems w/e to show that you can make a stronger community. Does i see that in avalon? Answer this, i just left them~
Powerleveling is a contract between the powerleveler and the powerleveled and does not any chance harm your legit union reputation or pride. If you keep thinking the factor about Laziness and get pwlvled you should not think of a single mind at all, think of where to find a decent party? If my build would entirely useless in party then why does rogue save cleric and ints ass all the time? because nobody noticing it. Entirely they keep thinking as rogue a build that useless in party that cancels attack of some wizzy, No. Your thinking should not be single minded and single reason, does not explain rogue dagger/xbow is useless in party.
I did not criticize Avalon's achievement, but their solution is mostly erroneous in morality. This is the reason i quit. Their Ego issue and ignorance.
I do not hate them, but does not mean i wont crush them.
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:41 am
by NO_SILK_4_ME
Niton wrote:*Well as a matter of fact, what you about to read is something really serious about the whole game play arena of human behavior towards oneself and the other*
As you can see from my signature, i just left avalon, for no reason. From what you are goin to hear is the reason and the big negativity which lies beyond them, avalon. sry, noobvalon.
If people would take so much pride/credit of their achievement and constantly portraying it on daily basis makin me staying in avalon will have such a great impact on my communication towars the other. If there is more nicer people i can talk to outside the range of my position (as 100% legit) rather then sitting in a guild while only chatting with few people who really cares about the lowbies (I'm 64 consider lowbie btw), hence my whole virtual social would havent been great, making the game less fun anyway. I laugh sometimes when the authority have to tease the other guild of losing gw/fw but you dont have to treat them constantly as loser as anyway.
Appreciation towards the others is so vital that it is requisite for stronger community. When some few people union that they want to leave venus and went to hera, do you scold them? If fly really does decide to use the force way of getting your community stronger then that is entirely ridiculous
:( Begging is a request for help, as if now that people treat begging as something that we should avoid of lending a hand. We want to create a maximum happiness, then to decide what is wrong or right, is viewing to see how happy is that person you can make. If there is a beggar in jangan, asking for 10k, would you like to make someone happy today? or making yourself satisfied which is selfish? how does people look on you then? The principle of being a human is happy is right, unhappy is wrong, you make both people happy by charity, by asking if your guildmate have any problems w/e to show that you can make a stronger community. Does i see that in avalon? Answer this, i just left them~I did not criticize Avalon's achievement, but their solution is mostly erroneous in morality. This is the reason i quit. Their Ego issue and ignorance.
I do not hate them, but does not mean i wont crush them.
dude..i'm sure 1/20 or so ppl out there are like you..which means the noob begging in jangyang culd have made over 1mill already and continue to beg..if it is a legit noob...10k will help but tell him to stop begging! or else he'll just keep repeating the process for more gold!
HARD LOVE
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:42 am
by LadyOphelia
Hope you find a better group of SRO players to enjoy yourself with. Try not to stress, and good luck
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:44 am
by h0ll0w
arent u the one who got in trouble cuz talking with Rejection? LOL
anyway, good to hear that u quit. this game is all about having fun. not stuck in some guild cuz they are strong.
Way2Go*
rejection. holla me back baby
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:47 am
by Niton
Thanks lady and hollow
@NO_SILK_4_ME
it is entirely depending on you what you think about what they might need, if they make 1mill a day, would you already make him happy? does letting him making money is entirely wrong? This is the mindset of people nowadays, you dont want to make others happy, well if you think that is unfair then you should consider start changing the words, as in request. If everybody begs, then that should be ridiculous
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:48 am
by _Scarlett_
that was hard to read at some points XD
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:50 am
by LivithiuM
Wow your english is second language but you use words like erroneous..
I think I get the basic idea of what your saying though. I disagree with your whole point on helping lowbie's who beg. The thing is you never appreciate anything that is simply given, you only appreciate what you earn!
Giving some noob 10k won't make that noob happy... he will just learn to ask for 20k next time.
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:50 am
by nightbloom
He never got in trouble for talking to anyone.
And he is mad cause he got his union taken in Avalon for continually asking for PL, then he made an alternate char and got it into another guild in the union, where he got union again. Guess what he did with it.
He kept asking for PL in union.
Begging for PL is not something you NEED. If it is, Avalon isnt the guild for you and you did the right thing by leaving. No hard feelings at all.
Looks like G4N is willing to PL you Niton. rofl
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:54 am
by Niton
nightbloom wrote:He never got in trouble for talking to anyone.
And he is mad cause he got his union taken in Avalon for continually asking for PL, then he made an alternate char and got it into another guild in the union, where he got union again. Guess what he did with it.
He kept asking for PL in union.
Begging for PL is not something you NEED. If it is, Avalon isnt the guild for you and you did the right thing by leaving. No hard feelings at all.
Looks like G4N is willing to PL you Niton. rofl
Is powerleveling is entirely wrong? It does not because it is faster to lvl them up then wasting time. Nightbloom you got all the time in the world sitting infront of the computer, i do not.
@Livithium
you still in that dead sea
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:57 am
by Sylhana
Niton wrote:you got all the time in the world sitting infront of the computer, i do not.
Then why the rush to get cap? No one but yourself is expecting you to get cap level. The time and effort you put in is what you get out of your char. If you get pwrlvled, then great, its a bonus. If not, get there at your own pace.
I had to but in here, since I get this exact same statement from members of my union once in a while. They dont have the time, so they expect players (including myself) to play for them (ie pwrlvl).
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:58 am
by nightbloom
Niton wrote:nightbloom wrote:He never got in trouble for talking to anyone.
And he is mad cause he got his union taken in Avalon for continually asking for PL, then he made an alternate char and got it into another guild in the union, where he got union again. Guess what he did with it.
He kept asking for PL in union.
Begging for PL is not something you NEED. If it is, Avalon isnt the guild for you and you did the right thing by leaving. No hard feelings at all.
Looks like G4N is willing to PL you Niton. rofl
Is powerleveling is entirely wrong? It does not because it is faster to lvl them up then wasting time. Nightbloom you got all the time in the world sitting infront of the computer, i do not.
@Livithium
you still in that dead sea
Have you ever leveled up a char on your own without being PLed? You should try it once, its fun.
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:59 am
by jabbers
wow i can't even get union
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:00 am
by Niton
nightbloom wrote:Niton wrote:nightbloom wrote:He never got in trouble for talking to anyone.
And he is mad cause he got his union taken in Avalon for continually asking for PL, then he made an alternate char and got it into another guild in the union, where he got union again. Guess what he did with it.
He kept asking for PL in union.
Begging for PL is not something you NEED. If it is, Avalon isnt the guild for you and you did the right thing by leaving. No hard feelings at all.
Looks like G4N is willing to PL you Niton. rofl
Is powerleveling is entirely wrong? It does not because it is faster to lvl them up then wasting time. Nightbloom you got all the time in the world sitting infront of the computer, i do not.
@Livithium
you still in that dead sea
Have you ever leveled up a char on your own without being PLed? You should try it once, its fun.
thats what i did on Naijel~~ Naijel is 100% never being pwlvled character and it is my entirely sincere hardship and handgrinding. and im always a pt leader before. u guys never know that didnt you, coz i never chat with you guys due to ignorance
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:00 am
by Sylhana
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:06 am
by nightbloom
jabbers wrote:wow i can't even get union
Id give you Union jabbers...
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:09 am
by andrejat
nightbloom wrote:Niton wrote:nightbloom wrote:He never got in trouble for talking to anyone.
And he is mad cause he got his union taken in Avalon for continually asking for PL, then he made an alternate char and got it into another guild in the union, where he got union again. Guess what he did with it.
He kept asking for PL in union.
Begging for PL is not something you NEED. If it is, Avalon isnt the guild for you and you did the right thing by leaving. No hard feelings at all.
Looks like G4N is willing to PL you Niton. rofl
Is powerleveling is entirely wrong? It does not because it is faster to lvl them up then wasting time. Nightbloom you got all the time in the world sitting infront of the computer, i do not.
@Livithium
you still in that dead sea
Have you ever leveled up a char on your own without being PLed? You should try it once, its fun.
No, it's not...
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:14 am
by Seed
meh. this is the end of all what used to be handgrinded. next year this game will be full of players too lazy to even break down alchemy materials
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:16 am
by andrejat
Seed wrote:meh. this is the end of all what used to be handgrinded. next year this game will be full of players too lazy to even break down alchemy materials
Damn straight, this game is horrible once you realize no one cares anymore.
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:21 am
by nightbloom
Well, I like hand grinding euros.
And if someone who is your friend offers to PL you, fine. If someone offers at all, fine. If someone asks continually, Im gonna lose my patience.
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:27 am
by Niton
i didnt ask everytimeeeeeee omg i was just wanna get a noob character from 19 - 21 if that was hard enough for a 70s to help, how many time that was like, once.
when i was asking to get me to 60s when i was 59 zee and lemon came and help me out and i truely appreciate it and what is so fussy about the union rules that pwlvling is bad anyway, i dont have time because we are in 2 different situation nightb if you can understand. I dont want to make this as bad as you want to lose your patience but if you are a person who is nice you will sympathies your guildmates. I ask once or twice before to get in a high lvl party, but i never get a response. not even 1.
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:30 am
by nightbloom
Niton wrote:i didnt ask everytimeeeeeee omg i was just wanna get a noob character from 19 - 21 if that was hard enough for a 70s to help, how many time that was like, once.
Im not sure what you are crying about. You are out of Avalon. I am happy, you are happy, everyone is happy. Seems like the world is right and everyone should be patting each other on the back.
Good luck.
My anonymous friend made you this.
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:41 am
by StacE
If what nightbloom says is true - and it seems it is by what Niton says - then i agree with her.
Power levelling isn't something you beg for, it's something that is offered to you. I also got annoyed when people begged me for plvl cos' its just plain lazy.
COMPLETELY irrelevant, but it's like asking for a lift home from school from a mate... A once off is all good! Just don't ask and expect everyday that someone has to give you a lift home.
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:48 am
by Niton
...i have nothing else to say.
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:51 am
by TOloseGT
grow up
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:57 am
by Malicious
Avalon didnt plvl. Oh well I mean I handgrinded a few levels. All good but crappy Euro parties at lower levels. Only thing I didnt like was that the server was boring and when it came down to globals, Avalon/Guild/Union was the one starting shit, yet they make it seem like they were defending Legits here on SRF.
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:10 am
by Itonami
If your guild and union rules are to not beg for plvl, items, money you follow those rules or you aren't fit for that union. Don't like it? You can always leave. If a guild runs effectively one way, they dont need to cater to your needs. If you want things your way, make your own guild and start a new union.
Plus, if you have an issue with a guild, take it up with the guild/union master. Complaining on SRF makes you look pitiful.
From what I've seen in globals, there are other guilds harassing Avalon in globals and they are only retaliating. I see nothing wrong with this. It's an equal share in that, it's like that on EVERY server. Regardless, I will always respect NB + Fly.
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:10 am
by Corrupt
We all managed to lvl up.
Do you see me asking for plvl? No, cause I figure it out. Either go solo or form a party.
No parties around? Find out when people are on your level to party then.
You guys are 70+ blah blah blah why? Cause we got a group together to grind for a few hours a day. Other people did it you can too. Why was this topic even made?
Is it every high players obligation to take care of everyone else cause they can't/won't? seem to figure out how to reach goals on their own? I spent my time and put effort into this char to have fun with people I've met, not spend it giving every person that can't figure out how to level a free ride.
No one ever power leveled me one bit. You should be so lucky to get free exp/sp from others doing all the work. Oh and btw, if you don't have time don't play. Play your hours, do what you can when you're on then go do what you have to do.
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:10 am
by BalkanFanaticS
[MS]Malicious wrote:Avalon didnt plvl. Oh well I mean I handgrinded a few levels. All good but crappy Euro parties at lower levels. Only thing I didnt like was that the server was boring and when it came down to globals, Avalon/Guild/Union was the one starting shit, yet they make it seem like they were defending Legits here on SRF.
2 faced ppl , i know that type
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:34 am
by linkat2008
I understand where you are coming from Naijel, it's not just about wanting help from guildies from time to time, it's the company. When you find yourself being on teams with strangers all of the time.. it loses its fun, you lose the feeling of companionship <3 no worries naij, if you ever change your mind I'll be here, and even if you don't change your mind, I'm still here :o) best of luck to you in your future guild.
Re: The facts about avalon~
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:52 am
by shoto
Avalon has alot of pride...
and while i may get sick of it at times, i'm sure it's a good thing for the community/union it is building in-game (like pep i guess)
anyways seriously why should anyone plvl you? If you ask and you are repeatedly rejected then you should stop. if your union was getting angry at you for powerlvling in general then i can see reason for anger. And anyways you left avalon so that solved your problem.