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Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:56 am
by loveisintheair
BS if you ask me:

I mean seriously, what the hell?? I would have expected it to be more like 650%-700%. The job system is not rewarding at all, that's why everyone bots and insults each other (because there is nothing better to do)
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:59 am
by Nader
u make alot anyways
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:00 am
by loveisintheair
Nader wrote:u make alot anyways
What level are you?
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:05 am
by Nader
34, but iv seen profits coming off oxs and poeple makes millions after each run
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:06 am
by [SD]Kratos
yeah con-jg / jg-cons is not really worth it...too long for what u get...could be fun as union trade run though but if u're alone or with 1/2 hunter go for short runs...
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:11 am
by torinchibi
No matter how much more you get from any other trade, when you can do jg-dw in 20 mins or less with an ox, anything else just blows in comparison in terms of profit.
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:16 am
by loveisintheair
Nader wrote:34, but iv seen profits coming off oxs and poeple makes millions after each run
That's what you think. Here is what you don't understand.
Subtract pots/grass and other expenses (at level 80, NPCs are a brutal assault on the ox) from the revenue and what you are left over with is about 1.5 million. How much 1.5 million (considering how much time goes into such trade) is to a level 80? Keep in mind the huge risk involved. To you (level 34) it maybe a lot. To me, it is worthless. (It takes about 500K for me to fully pot for a grind session at the generals).
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:56 am
by Deacon
takes 30 to 45 min with a 5* on a elephant to run from consta > Jang. If they trader doesn't stop for anything. I think that makes enough profit..
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:29 am
by Niani
think about it this way: there's a % limit on how much you gain
which is a one town limit, meaning you can only skip one city before hitting the cap, ex: Jg to Hotan, or, Cons to Hotan.
And when the other Islam cities come, I assume it will be the same, Bagdad (or what ever the starter city for Islam will be) to Hotan.
It actually makes sense if you think about it, Hotan is the center of the Silkroad after all
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:18 am
by Renton
Better off finding a drop instead of trading. Trading = worthless. The profit is never worth it. At least what I always though and still think that.
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:07 pm
by Braka
mabe it has to do with u buying all the same stuff? i know years ago when i used to buy all of the same thing the price went down from dw to jan for that item, i did contin to samaka and got around 337% or something on a 4 star with mixed items, mabe u did something wrong
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:43 pm
by Deadsolid
It would be better to give honor points/ exp for doing a job wouldnt it?
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:44 pm
by borat2
Renton wrote:Better off finding a drop instead of trading. Trading = worthless. The profit is never worth it. At least what I always though and still think that.
you can make some good gold with it now, think the runs between jangan and dw are low profit.
you would have earned more from Samarkand-Constantinople couple times.
doing the special goods trades can get you good quick gold if you have some good hunters with you.
hunters who are hardcore (4-6hours each day) probably earn the most gold.
jobs are also there to have some fun, if you want to earn gold then you should stall 24/7 is the only way to get rich.
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:49 pm
by Oden
Doesnt the Fortres War taxes effect that in Jangen?
Anyway, I hunted for a Jan-DW trade run and got about 2K xp each unit.
I then went from Sam-Cons and got 5K xp each unit.
I have always heard that Cons-Sama is the best route.
You guys test it and see.
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:08 pm
by the_wicked
Its the 20 % tax you shoulda stopped in dw....trading to jangan will actually lower you profit cuz of the fortress tax
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:52 pm
by loveisintheair
the_wicked wrote:Its the 20 % tax you shoulda stopped in dw....trading to jangan will actually lower you profit cuz of the fortress tax
Assuming the % difference between DW and Jangan (on a Const. to JG trip) is less than 20%.
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:54 pm
by loveisintheair
BTW, does anyone know what the % commission is paid to hunters?
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:57 pm
by Hideoki
I never trade or thief or even hunt. Im level 42 and tbh i cant be bothered waiting for the rare 2 star + trade runs..without a high level hunter. I have a grabber pet and i probably make about 1m gold in gold grabs and loot selling "to npc guys" every hour or 2. If i setup a stall i can offer more of course. But usually i earn about 3-4 mil a day.
Yesterday i made 45 mill, as i sold my sos +4 shield also. I got about 200 Mill in gear im using and will sell when i dont need it also.
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:15 pm
by Alterran
well my friend did 1* on a horse from cons to jg and he made 800k which really isnt bad he is lvl 72 thou
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:59 pm
by MrFudge
lol ya fck trading, thats like last measure if ur bored sh1tless.
find a 3rd tier 8d drop and sell it for more than 4 times what u would make on a multi-town 5*trade.
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:05 pm
by Sharpy
lol idk i like trading. I'm a hunter but its fun when ur capped at 80 and nothin else to do. Plus you can help out your guild/uni and make some good money.
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:08 pm
by Azilius
If you have the right hunters/traders that know what they're doing trading is WELL worth it. Always 4-5 star, anything else is a waste of time, and if you can hit the bargained trades you're going for a much bigger profit.
Even as hunter you can make over 20 mil a week in collecting weekly outcome from hunter guild.
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:21 pm
by GodsAngel
money wise trading is bs unless the person in question is a low level but even then it's bs.
I used to do trade runs as a hunter, union ones, because they were fun and a lot of the time we'd get attacked by a horde of thieves ^^ and it started job wars.
The thieves came to pvp more than to rob, good times. This is my reason for jobbing and it's a break from the grind.
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:21 pm
by Panu
ok so i got some questions about this. im a trader myself and i never really passed a town up.
Do the market price increases everytime you pass a town? like are they all increase by same amount? like if i even had a 2* , would it increase profit same as 5*?
could someone be kind enough to post profit increases as you pass a town?
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:55 pm
by loveisintheair
_Panu_ wrote:ok so i got some questions about this. im a trader myself and i never really passed a town up.
Do the market price increases everytime you pass a town? like are they all increase by same amount? like if i even had a 2* , would it increase profit same as 5*?
could someone be kind enough to post profit increases as you pass a town?
Like I didn't like understand what you are like saying.

Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:09 pm
by Panu
loveisintheair wrote:_Panu_ wrote:ok so i got some questions about this. im a trader myself and i never really passed a town up.
Do the market price increases everytime you pass a town? like are they all increase by same amount? like if i even had a 2* , would it increase profit same as 5*?
could someone be kind enough to post profit increases as you pass a town?
Like I didn't like understand what you are like saying.

lol , when i get confused i cant word it right so i just say watever
ok ill try to reword it.
-how much does the profit increase everytime you pass a town?
-does the increasing profit amount increase at a steady pace? like from 100% to 150 to 200%?
-regarding my first question, say i pass hotan (from dw) and i go to Sam. (2*) and my profit increases by 60%, would it increase by same amount if i did a 5*? (also go up by 60%)?
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:17 pm
by Niani
_Panu_ wrote:ok so i got some questions about this. im a trader myself and i never really passed a town up.
Do the market price increases everytime you pass a town? like are they all increase by same amount? like if i even had a 2* , would it increase profit same as 5*?
could someone be kind enough to post profit increases as you pass a town?
Niani wrote:think about it this way: there's a % limit on how much you gain
which is a one town limit, meaning you can only skip one city before hitting the cap, ex: Jg to Hotan, or, Cons to Hotan.
And when the other Islam cities come, I assume it will be the same, Bagdad (or what ever the starter city for Islam will be) to Hotan.
It actually makes sense if you think about it, Hotan is the center of the Silkroad after all
doing a round trip between two cities (Cons-Sam)
will provide you with more money than a full trip (Cons-Hotan)
HOWEVER
doing a full trip will take less time than doing a round trip between two closer cities
example
round trip- 288% x2
Full trip- 402%
This aren't the exact percents, but it's close to what I mean.
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:31 pm
by Panu
Niani wrote:Niani wrote:think about it this way: there's a % limit on how much you gain
which is a one town limit, meaning you can only skip one city before hitting the cap, ex: Jg to Hotan, or, Cons to Hotan.
And when the other Islam cities come, I assume it will be the same, Bagdad (or what ever the starter city for Islam will be) to Hotan.
It actually makes sense if you think about it, Hotan is the center of the Silkroad after all
doing a round trip between two cities (Cons-Sam)
will provide you with more money than a full trip (Cons-Hotan)
HOWEVER
doing a full trip will take less time than doing a round trip between two closer cities
example
round trip- 288% x2Full trip- 402%
This aren't the exact percents, but it's close to what I mean.
im lost there. What do you mean by round trips?
plz explain more about those in red highlight ... im a bit slow on understanding >.<
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:51 pm
by mastercoder
doing a round trip between two cities (Cons-Sam)
will provide you with more money than a full trip (Cons-Hotan)
Re: Fully loaded ox, from Consta to Jangan...
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:52 pm
by loveisintheair
mastercoder wrote:doing a round trip between two cities (Cons-Sam)
will provide you with more money than a full trip (Cons-Hotan)
+1, agreed.