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glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:11 pm
by tian
my glaive has a blue called blocking ratio 60(+100%)

i never knew a glaive can block

or is there another meaning to it?

:D

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:11 pm
by ranger4life
that means less chance of u getting hit by a crit =D

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:12 pm
by SiWarrior
Reduces the chance that other ppl will block your attacks, i think :)

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:12 pm
by Xbox_Live_
ranger4life wrote:that means less chance of u getting hit by a crit =D

it worked i love u hehe :) ty ranger!!! I LOVE RANGER!

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:13 pm
by Cloverleaf
It's block parry, in other words you have more chance to avoid block against a shield user. Kind of opposite of critical parry on shields.

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:13 pm
by ranger4life
Xbox_Live_ wrote:
ranger4life wrote:that means less chance of u getting hit by a crit =D

it worked i love u hehe :) ty ranger!!! I LOVE RANGER!

u kinda posted in rong topic but =), np

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:14 pm
by Xbox_Live_
ranger4life wrote:
Xbox_Live_ wrote:
ranger4life wrote:that means less chance of u getting hit by a crit =D

it worked i love u hehe :) ty ranger!!! I LOVE RANGER!

u kinda posted in rong topic but =), np

lol well i found u and was happy! WOOHOO i know every1's confused but its ok, cuz ranger4life is the man

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:16 pm
by LillDev!l
Cloverleaf wrote:It's block parry, in other words you have more chance to avoid block against a shield user. Kind of opposite of critical parry on shields.


:roll: its like he said it ^__^

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:22 pm
by OL_Spongey
There is a glavie skill that can block attacks too :>

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:31 pm
by StealMySoda
Blocking ratio, reduces the chances somebody will block you with a shield.

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:35 pm
by Kathyryn
StealMySoda wrote:Blocking ratio, reduces the chances somebody will block you with a shield.

I think you mean...
Reduces the chances of your attacks being block against a shield user.

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:41 pm
by fena
Kathyryn wrote:
StealMySoda wrote:Blocking ratio, reduces the chances somebody will block you with a shield.

I think you mean...
Reduces the chances of your attacks being block against a shield user.

Er... what's the difference? :d

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:44 pm
by Kathyryn
fena wrote:
Kathyryn wrote:
StealMySoda wrote:Blocking ratio, reduces the chances somebody will block you with a shield.

I think you mean...
Reduces the chances of your attacks being block against a shield user.

Er... what's the difference? :d

uhmm, proper grammar >_> but hey I dont really care I just stated my opinion

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:21 pm
by KhmerReaper
i dont know if its bugged or what but i have seen a glavie (myself) in a pvp and it said Block the attack of the other player.

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:24 pm
by bakafish
KhmerReaper wrote:i dont know if its bugged or what but i have seen a glavie (myself) in a pvp and it said Block the attack of the other player.

It just reduces, doesn't completely remove the chance of hits getting blocked.

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:11 pm
by NuclearSilo
Of course glaiver can block. But it's not because of the block 60(100%). There is a skill in Fanning Storm series that make it possible to block 32% for 15s.
The blue in weapon is a block parry.
Ex: if a blader has 20 BR from his sun shield, and has 8% BR passive. His blocking total is 28%.
- 28% that a "BLOCK" word will occur
- 60% your weapon will stop the "BLOCK"
So his total BR will be reduce to 28 * 60% = 16.8 => 16 BR

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:12 pm
by Deacon
ranger4life wrote:that means less chance of u getting hit by a crit =D

Fail :)

Cloverleaf wrote:It's block parry, in other words you have more chance to avoid block against a shield user. Kind of opposite of critical parry on shields.

Succeed :)

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:26 pm
by Azilius
NuclearSilo wrote:Of course glaiver can block. But it's not because of the block 60(100%). There is a skill in Fanning Storm series that make it possible to block 32% for 15s.
The blue in weapon is a block parry.
Ex: if a blader has 20 BR from his sun shield, and has 8% BR passive. His blocking total is 28%.
- 28% that a "BLOCK" word will occur
- 60% your weapon will stop the "BLOCK"
So his total BR will be reduce to 28 * 60% = 16.8 => 16 BR


BR 100 is achievable on 8d weapons, so the formula has to be incorrect, none the less it has a big effect on the amount blocked, and fanning storm only works on magical attacks :wink:

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:41 am
by silverbreed
ranger4life wrote:that means less chance of u getting hit by a crit =D

thats the 1 8)

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:42 am
by Deacon
silverbreed wrote:
ranger4life wrote:that means less chance of u getting hit by a crit =D

thats the 1 8)

No it is not.

It means that you get less BLOCKS from someone with a shield

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:02 am
by Malicious
Deacon wrote:
silverbreed wrote:
ranger4life wrote:that means less chance of u getting hit by a crit =D

thats the 1 8)

No it is not.

It means that you get less BLOCKS from someone with a shield


I think he was kidding... :roll:

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:49 am
by smoti83
They can block whithout that skill.
I don;t know if there is a bug , but i have blocked atack from a mob using a som lvl 16 bow whit 100% increase block.
I was amaised too..

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:52 am
by Evil_Mage
Only shields block.
The block ratio on a weapon means the enemy will do less blocks on you.

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:53 pm
by LockStar.
Evil_Mage wrote:Only shields block.
The block ratio on a weapon means the enemy will do less blocks on you.


Wanna bet that you can block mag attacks with spear or glavie too? :P Fanning spear series.

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:01 pm
by THE_ZUL
blocking ratio = reduce block from shield esp blader opp or 1h
critical blues = reduce critical from weapon

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:57 pm
by Legaire
can someone confirm the formula again.
coz its right, 100 Blocking Ratio is obtainable on 8D weapons.

btw its 2 different thing, bout glavie skill blocking and the blocking ratio blue on the weapons. Stop confusing them together as the same thing.

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:25 pm
by NuclearSilo
I remeber there was someone say: anti block is the oppsoite of your block
So if u have a weapon block 60(100%) and enemy has shield BR 17(70%)
Formula will be like this: 70-60=10 => BR 11(10%)
weapon block 100(100%): 70-100=-30 => BR 7(-30%)

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:28 pm
by ranger4life
smoti83 wrote:They can block whithout that skill.
I don;t know if there is a bug , but i have blocked atack from a mob using a som lvl 16 bow whit 100% increase block.
I was amaised too..

u made a account jsut to say that?

and thats wrong, theres no way a bow can block, only shields can

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:18 pm
by torinchibi
NuclearSilo wrote:I remeber there was someone say: anti block is the oppsoite of your block
So if u have a weapon block 60(100%) and enemy has shield BR 17(70%)
Formula will be like this: 70-60=10 => BR 11(10%)
weapon block 100(100%): 70-100=-30 => BR 7(-30%)



I strongly doubt that's how it works. Because if you have 0%block on the shield (10) and 100 block perry on the weapon (100% on 8D), would that mean you have -100% block = 0? No. Because I have br10 and I block people with 100% blue.

So that's definitely not how the formula works. You can't just assume the block perry is a percent value, and subtract that from shield % value, especially when on a sun 100% is completely different than 100% on regular shields.

I declare your formula a failed attempt.

Re: glaives can block :-o

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:13 pm
by loveisintheair
Kathyryn wrote:
fena wrote:
Kathyryn wrote:I think you mean...
Reduces the chances of your attacks being blocked against a shield user.

Er... what's the difference? :d

uhmm, proper grammar >_> but hey I dont really care I just stated my opinion


Fixed. (Sorry I just had to do it ;))