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Wizard skills at 90 cap?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:17 pm
by dagyros
Hey guys i was wondering: when the 90 cap comes will the euro wizards even get better and stronger skills? And will they own the chinese even more?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:20 pm
by Poochu
no, as far as im aware.

china are getting more new skills. to make them be able to stand a chance against euro's.

if anything wizards may get hp increasing buffs or something, but thats probably about it.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:28 pm
by Vuur

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:31 pm
by dagyros
awesome site thnx:)

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:32 pm
by ShadowSpell
Wizard still get to lvl their skills, but no new books since at lvl 80 wizards just start a new book, but they will still hit as hard with the new lvl cap.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:04 pm
by MrBow
we will still pwn 8)

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:02 am
by Naigasakis_Rebirth
MrBow wrote:we will still pwn 8)


if by pwn u mean get one shot...then yes you still do

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:02 am
by Regret
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
MrBow wrote:we will still pwn 8)


if by pwn u mean get one shot...then yes you still do

+1 LMFAO

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:03 am
by o_rly
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
MrBow wrote:we will still pwn 8)


if by pwn u mean get one shot...then yes you still do


That's why it's a good idea to get cleric ;)

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:06 am
by ranger4life
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
MrBow wrote:we will still pwn 8)


if by pwn u mean get one shot...then yes you still do

u forgot to think about that wizards ...the stronger ones select cleric as subclass, and i can see a wizard/c;eric tanking 6 lv 80s, then just exploding and instantly gets back to full health

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:15 am
by Naigasakis_Rebirth
ranger4life wrote:
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
MrBow wrote:we will still pwn 8)


if by pwn u mean get one shot...then yes you still do

u forgot to think about that wizards ...the stronger ones select cleric as subclass, and i can see a wizard/c;eric tanking 6 lv 80s, then just exploding and instantly gets back to full health


Is that what u see? normally I see them cast bless and get killed half way thru it or it get it off then get kd'd and stabbed to death before they get off offering. Or my personal favorite...cast bless...everyone else casts bless...some sosun runs up and ghost spears the wizard to death anyways.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:17 am
by Juicy
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
ranger4life wrote:
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
MrBow wrote:we will still pwn 8)


if by pwn u mean get one shot...then yes you still do

u forgot to think about that wizards ...the stronger ones select cleric as subclass, and i can see a wizard/c;eric tanking 6 lv 80s, then just exploding and instantly gets back to full health


Is that what u see? normally I see them cast bless and get killed half way thru it or it get it off then get kd'd and stabbed to death before they get off offering. Or my personal favorite...cast bless...everyone else casts bless...some sosun runs up and ghost spears the wizard to death anyways.
you must not like wizards, do you get 1 shot alot? if so im sorry to hear that...
-sarcasm-

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:19 am
by Malicious
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Noes only updates :)


Be the father of my babies...

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:31 am
by [AoW]ForLife
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
ranger4life wrote:
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
MrBow wrote:we will still pwn 8)


if by pwn u mean get one shot...then yes you still do

u forgot to think about that wizards ...the stronger ones select cleric as subclass, and i can see a wizard/c;eric tanking 6 lv 80s, then just exploding and instantly gets back to full health


Is that what u see? normally I see them cast bless and get killed half way thru it or it get it off then get kd'd and stabbed to death before they get off offering. Or my personal favorite...cast bless...everyone else casts bless...some sosun runs up and ghost spears the wizard to death anyways.

Lol totally true or watch them Bless and try to kill a warrior/bard who just runs away, runs back, mana skins and proceeds to destroy the wizard. :wink:
Wizards are good, but not all-powerful.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:42 am
by the_wicked
Malicious wrote:
Vuur wrote:http://www.konpaku.com.br/silkroad/habilidade.asp?mastery=514


Noes only updates :)


Be the father of my babies...


lmao

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:07 am
by sama98b
PPl stil don't understand it :)

Of course wizard dies, it gives up half of the hp for more dmg.
It wasn't made to tank.

The question is how many gets killed b4 it dies :D

When killing 3 or more in 1 hit, job is done :D

Lv72 and when 2 nukes takes out a sun user chinese lv80 , isn't it fun ?
Who is going to care that the other 5 is going to jump in and kill the wiz.

And nothing is better then zerk and sweep everyone off 10 vs 1 with aoe.
Wanna see any other char doing that, in out numbered and out leveled.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:23 am
by PhizzDaShizz
wizards are meant to be played in a party as are almost all euros (rogues are like chinese without a good auto pot) a wizard buffed with warrior and cleric buffs is really hard to kill and almost impossible to kill with bless at a high lvl. It really does depend on the kind of party you have.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:59 am
by MrBow
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
MrBow wrote:we will still pwn 8)


if by pwn u mean get one shot...then yes you still do


We can also oneshot your sorry ass character. Story over? Oh and read sama98b's reply.

sama98b wrote:PPl stil don't understand it :)
Ofcourse wizard dies, it gives up half of the hp for more dmg.
It wasn't made to tank.
The question is how many gets killed b4 it dies :D
When killing 3 or more in 1 hit, job is done :D

Lv72 and when 2 nukes takes out a sun user chinese lv80 , isn't it fun ?
Who is going to care that the other 5 is going to jump in and kill the wiz.
And nothing is better then zerk and sweep everyone off 10 vs 1 with aoe.
Wanna see any other char doing that, in out numbered and out leveled.


exactly.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:47 pm
by torinchibi
More on topic first.

Wizards get all their new skills, except first books, at around 76-80. Meaning a fully farmed wizard is like 5x more powerful than unfarmed wizards, even if they are 80.


You guys should know with mass fear, a smart wizard can go in invisible, teleport into someone...so less people can select them, then use mass fear on a group of 3-4 people, then while they all run towards the wizard, just hit them 2-3 times with aoe skills while your friends pop up and take out the leftovers...and probably rez you if there was more than 1 person that didn't get feared....haha.
But remember guys, every 20 levels, wizards get extra 4% p. absorption. at 80 it's 42%, so you have mana shield for 20 seconds, enough time to throw a few nukes in someone's face. I've partied with a wizard that uses earth barrier, 20 sec every minute go a long way.... if I wasn't wearing horrible equips, i might have kept her alive a lot longer...but I get 1 shot too much by those big bad level 80's.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:33 pm
by destructionmama
Wizards are dangerous.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:02 pm
by dagyros
aah oke so wizards are really nice:") I was wondering whats the name of the skill that you ""freeze"" the enemy so that they cant walk? THNX :D

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:43 pm
by ShadowSpell
dagyros wrote:aah oke so wizards are really nice:") I was wondering whats the name of the skill that you ""freeze"" the enemy so that they cant walk? THNX :D


it's an earth skill called Root and the lvl 80 skill of it is called Mesh Root

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:39 pm
by ___ONLY___
wizards, rogues, warriors, bladers, none of them stands long in front of me

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:49 pm
by Da_Realest
sama98b wrote:PPl stil don't understand it :)

Of course wizard dies, it gives up half of the hp for more dmg.
It wasn't made to tank.

The question is how many gets killed b4 it dies :D

When killing 3 or more in 1 hit, job is done :D

Lv72 and when 2 nukes takes out a sun user chinese lv80 , isn't it fun ?
Who is going to care that the other 5 is going to jump in and kill the wiz.

And nothing is better then zerk and sweep everyone off 10 vs 1 with aoe.
Wanna see any other char doing that, in out numbered and out leveled.
It wasn't made to die either. If your sole goal as a Wizard is to take out as many people as you can before dying, you're not a good Wizard. A Wizard has plenty of skills to pretty much lessen their chances of dying. Too bad the majority of the Wizards get none of the helpful skills besides Earth Fence and are basically just kamikazes.

In a group fight, if you have time, you can use Lava Trap in case anyone gets close to you. Start with Mana Drought, followed by Lighting Impact and/or Mesh Root, then use Charged Squall for the purpose of doing a bit of damage while creating space between you and the opponents that were not affected by fear or binded. Finish them all off with the AoE nukes and use Earth Fence and Teleport if necessary. Of course, everything may not go as smooth as that, but to say the goal of a Wizard is to take out as many people before they die is ignorant of a Wizard's capabilities.

Also, not all Sun users die in one hit from a Wizard in Life Turnover.

The highest number of targets an AoE attack from a Wizard can hit is 5. Without buffs, and fighting against an alert party, you'll probably be dead before you can get off a second nuke. A zerked Chinese spear nuker could take out just as many people.

Who should care if you die? Your teammates. The longer a Wizard is alive doing damage, the greater the chances of your Guild, party, etc. beating the opponent. If you die, the Cleric has to stop healing to res and rebuff you, probably causing someone else to die. If you res to town, thats one less person that can help fight and could affect the outcome of the battle. Who cares that you killed 4 or 5 people before you died when you could have lived and taken out 4 or 5 more, or something like that.

Not much will change for the Wizard vs Chinese fight once the cap is raised. Wizard skills can continue to be leveled so it will probably just be more of the same in terms of PvP.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:28 am
by Naigasakis_Rebirth
Da_Realest wrote:
sama98b wrote:PPl stil don't understand it :)

Of course wizard dies, it gives up half of the hp for more dmg.
It wasn't made to tank.

The question is how many gets killed b4 it dies :D

When killing 3 or more in 1 hit, job is done :D

Lv72 and when 2 nukes takes out a sun user chinese lv80 , isn't it fun ?
Who is going to care that the other 5 is going to jump in and kill the wiz.

And nothing is better then zerk and sweep everyone off 10 vs 1 with aoe.
Wanna see any other char doing that, in out numbered and out leveled.
It wasn't made to die either. If your sole goal as a Wizard is to take out as many people as you can before dying, you're not a good Wizard. A Wizard has plenty of skills to pretty much lessen their chances of dying. Too bad the majority of the Wizards get none of the helpful skills besides Earth Fence and are basically just kamikazes.

In a group fight, if you have time, you can use Lava Trap in case anyone gets close to you. Start with Mana Drought, followed by Lighting Impact and/or Mesh Root, then use Charged Squall for the purpose of doing a bit of damage while creating space between you and the opponents that were not affected by fear or binded. Finish them all off with the AoE nukes and use Earth Fence and Teleport if necessary. Of course, everything may not go as smooth as that, but to say the goal of a Wizard is to take out as many people before they die is ignorant of a Wizard's capabilities.

Also, not all Sun users die in one hit from a Wizard in Life Turnover.

The highest number of targets an AoE attack from a Wizard can hit is 5. Without buffs, and fighting against an alert party, you'll probably be dead before you can get off a second nuke. A zerked Chinese spear nuker could take out just as many people.

Who should care if you die? Your teammates. The longer a Wizard is alive doing damage, the greater the chances of your Guild, party, etc. beating the opponent. If you die, the Cleric has to stop healing to res and rebuff you, probably causing someone else to die. If you res to town, thats one less person that can help fight and could affect the outcome of the battle. Who cares that you killed 4 or 5 people before you died when you could have lived and taken out 4 or 5 more, or something like that.

Not much will change for the Wizard vs Chinese fight once the cap is raised. Wizard skills can continue to be leveled so it will probably just be more of the same in terms of PvP.


LOL you will get one shot while trying to cast the lava trap guaranteed

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:29 am
by Zimmy
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
Da_Realest wrote:
sama98b wrote:PPl stil don't understand it :)

Of course wizard dies, it gives up half of the hp for more dmg.
It wasn't made to tank.

The question is how many gets killed b4 it dies :D

When killing 3 or more in 1 hit, job is done :D

Lv72 and when 2 nukes takes out a sun user chinese lv80 , isn't it fun ?
Who is going to care that the other 5 is going to jump in and kill the wiz.

And nothing is better then zerk and sweep everyone off 10 vs 1 with aoe.
Wanna see any other char doing that, in out numbered and out leveled.
It wasn't made to die either. If your sole goal as a Wizard is to take out as many people as you can before dying, you're not a good Wizard. A Wizard has plenty of skills to pretty much lessen their chances of dying. Too bad the majority of the Wizards get none of the helpful skills besides Earth Fence and are basically just kamikazes.

In a group fight, if you have time, you can use Lava Trap in case anyone gets close to you. Start with Mana Drought, followed by Lighting Impact and/or Mesh Root, then use Charged Squall for the purpose of doing a bit of damage while creating space between you and the opponents that were not affected by fear or binded. Finish them all off with the AoE nukes and use Earth Fence and Teleport if necessary. Of course, everything may not go as smooth as that, but to say the goal of a Wizard is to take out as many people before they die is ignorant of a Wizard's capabilities.

Also, not all Sun users die in one hit from a Wizard in Life Turnover.

The highest number of targets an AoE attack from a Wizard can hit is 5. Without buffs, and fighting against an alert party, you'll probably be dead before you can get off a second nuke. A zerked Chinese spear nuker could take out just as many people.

Who should care if you die? Your teammates. The longer a Wizard is alive doing damage, the greater the chances of your Guild, party, etc. beating the opponent. If you die, the Cleric has to stop healing to res and rebuff you, probably causing someone else to die. If you res to town, thats one less person that can help fight and could affect the outcome of the battle. Who cares that you killed 4 or 5 people before you died when you could have lived and taken out 4 or 5 more, or something like that.

Not much will change for the Wizard vs Chinese fight once the cap is raised. Wizard skills can continue to be leveled so it will probably just be more of the same in terms of PvP.


LOL you will get one shot while trying to cast the lava trap guaranteed

hes not standing next to someone then useing lava trap... and they wont expect someone to pop out of thin air and use lava trap
I often you Lava trap in job wars near the gates set one up right outside when they are busy.
When they come out they die and i do it again
Also a SMART Wizard will use random ppl to stand behind making them not be able to target you so you can get off 3-4 nukes before they get you
cant one shot me if you cant target me...

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:07 pm
by jabbers
well I dont understand why sosun users have so much prblms with the wizards. I just have +5 set and things and I don't have any problems with em other than I spend like 10m on those stealth pills all the time , but that parts fun lol

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:07 pm
by ShadowSpell
___ONLY___ wrote:wizards, rogues, warriors, bladers, none of them stands long in front of me


Quit being so full of your self, you wouldnt stand long infront of my wizard either, and yes I know your full sosun.