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plusing my 72+7 weapon
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:12 pm
by sromonk
whats up people ..
Would like to get your opinion on the following,
I have a great weapon so I think...
72+7 spear
physical damage 61%
magical damage 80%
attack rating 42%
critical 14 (83%)
full maxed out blues
the thing is I have been really contemplating plusing it to +8 even +9 yet I'm extremely edgy as I don't want to loose my already +7 stat. trust me when I say that I'm very much aware of the wonderful world of alchemy.. (sarcasm to the fullest extent) its like an addiction mind you.. in any case. here is my question for those that have succeeded in getting their weapons past +7
how many astrals, immortals steady's and luckys do you believe I should have in my weapon before even trying to plus it . not going to ask about myths or superstitions to the perfect alchemy result.. simply a realistic method. maybe you guys came across something that seemed to work better than other methods.. I appreciate your feedback.. on the same note.. should I even try it?.. let me know.. thanks
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:15 pm
by [SD]Isidro
Do it for the economical value.. do it for the glow!
AND welcome to SRF!
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:16 pm
by Woohoo
Why got for +9? Heck go all the way and get it +11, hell got for +15 if you have to.
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:16 pm
by Berto
It'd look sweet if it succeeded. Besides it's not like you'll be reselling anytime soon, and by the 90 cap everyone will sell their old 8d which would drop prices dramatically anyways. In my opinion, why not.
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:25 pm
by Itonami
There's a guy in my Greece union who's amazing at alchemy.
He said he put 5 lucky, 5 steady, 5 immo, and an astral on most of the +9 stuff he's done.
And Q8 suggest doing it right when the server comes up, and doing it int he first room you tele into in the caves.

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:32 pm
by Beto_Chavez
I have only +9ed one item (52 SoStar Bow) and it only took me one astral, immortal, and steady to get it from +5 to +9. It's pretty random and I dont think putting a load of stones on it will make any difference.
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:16 pm
by sromonk
Thank you for your replies.
It seems that you are all up for me to take the challenge. anyone else have any suggestions.. success stories ... thanks again for the feedback..
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:22 pm
by inxiLe
I don't think there's a way or a special method to alchemy something. It's luck all the way imho. Anyways, it's true what has been mentioned above about the caps and i would try to +9 it too if I was you. But hey I only had one +8 item once, but that was in the 30ish. And it went from +0 to +8 in one run so..

Luck based...
But if you have the fundings for it and you're willing to spend alot of money to it, you should definitely do it.
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:27 pm
by Berto
sromonk wrote:Thank you for your replies.
It seems that you are all up for me to take the challenge. anyone else have any suggestions.. success stories ... thanks again for the feedback..
I went +9 on a dual axe in just 9 elixer, no lucky stones, no premium. Shoot for that blue green shine

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:33 pm
by /Pi
Berto wrote:I went +9 on a dual axe in just 9 elixer, no lucky stones, no premium. Shoot for that blue green shine

If that's true, then damn that's sweet.
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:38 pm
by sromonk
dammm... Tell you what ... Sweet would be putting it lightly to describe that type of luck. thanks for the feedback

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:28 pm
by slimshady
just get a +3 weapon or shield and fail it 3 times in a row and then go for +8 with luck stone. then repeat for +9. my friend made three +5 shields trying to fail in order to go for +7 on a bow. two 72 and one NPC 52 shield lol. no lucky powders used.
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:45 pm
by Swindler
[SD]Isidro wrote:Do it for the economical value.. do it for the glow!
AND welcome to SRF!
haha

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:23 pm
by X4rd4S
Back when I played my other characters I noticed that some items are just not ment to be ++++.
For example.
I used to collect shield elixirs even I dont need them I didnt sell them. Just trying to get highest personal record +++
Shield 48 lvl with BR 18 (thats why I chose it) I tried to make +5 and sell, didnt past +3 always failed at +2, and other one 68 lvl made it +6 with 6 elix, failed for +7 make it again +6 again failed to 0 and in the end I made it +5 and leaved it that way. And never didnt use any of stones, because i cant buy silk, but always upgraded item with immortal.
So its all luck based, but some items have more luck then others. If you already made it +7 maybe it will go +9

(I hope so)
Anyway go for it and GL

I hope you made it
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:10 am
by mastercoder
It is ALL LUCK BASED!
i have collected above 100 accociary elixers. they aren´t worth a thing anymore on mars (20k ea if u want to get rid of them

) so ive tried to make my rings and such +5 and higher.
it went like this (got it in notebook just for checking how many times it had failed XD)
+1/2/3/4/fail
+1/2/fail
+1/2/3/4/5/6/fail
+1/2/3/fail
+1/2/3/fail
+1/2/fail
ive never got any higher than +6 ..
but my buddy says it is the luck of ur weapon...
he has made it to +8 ( on european daggers) with 6 astrals, 3 immortals, 8 wep.elixers and 2 luck.
so dunno maybe luck of weapon or maybe god doesnt like u at all
so dunno maybe its just luck..
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:13 am
by raysisfenix
do it.
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:36 am
by †erminal
promise not to kill yourself if it fails?
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:10 am
by ResTnPieces
Beto_Chavez wrote:I have only +9ed one item (52 SoStar Bow) and it only took me one astral, immortal, and steady to get it from +5 to +9. It's pretty random and I dont think putting a load of stones on it will make any difference.
+1
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:33 am
by mac
well, i would say enjoy the +7 for a while until u got really bored with it =P. if u are gonna + it more, thing of the consequence and prepare ur emotion that will b expressed for the consequence. oh well, what do i know, DO IT!
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:06 am
by shoto
†erminal wrote:promise not to kill yourself if it fails?
+1
sound advice
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:12 pm
by slimshady
i just told a guild mate to +7 his shield the way i explained and it worked. you can thank me later
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:26 pm
by PIMPinXIAN
I honestly think that alchemy is based on the luck of the item also. I just +9'd a 26 staff yesterday that I picked up for 2.5m at +7. I also +11'd another item a few weeks ago (bought at +6 for 70k). Both without immo/astral/lucky. (they were low lvl items). I'd say you really think twice before trying to +9 your spear. Do you know if it went +4 or +7 easily? If yes, then you have a chance of getting it to +9. If no, then I'd suggest you stick with your +7.
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:32 pm
by tedtwilliger
Well if you choose to do it, dont use astral.
If you have plans to go to +9, then +4 shouldn't be a problem. If your having trouble going to +4 then you should reconsider if you really wanna try and +9 this weapon.
Either way good luck. I would leave it as +7 if i was you. +7 glow > +9 glow. But hey, w/e works for you.
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:39 pm
by ShadowSpell
its all luck based, In the last week I have made 2 +7 weapons and 1 +9, with all of them I get it to +5 without any astral or anything, then I steady them and immortal (astral is a waste of money) and then put a luck stone on it and keep going up with luck stones, I dont understand why people put 6 astals, 6 immortals, and 6 luckies on them, 1 or 6 does the same, with 6 luckies on it though if it does fail you will loose the other 5 trying to get it back up to a +6, so just put one on at a time and immortal is a must especially if it is a pimped weapon, I have had 3 +5's break on me when I've tried for +6 and one was a 100mil staff lvl 72, so now I just collect the weapons from the stall network that have immortal on them as a drop and + them off of that.
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:49 pm
by The_Holy_
Well you should go for it if it fail then that sucks just +7 it again[/u]
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:24 pm
by Naigasakis_Rebirth
Remember new members your post count IS your penis size
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:24 am
by mastercoder
uhm wth.
i dont got alot of posts but its already coming under my pants. so if i stick to posting it will be the size of myself...

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:38 pm
by Aryss
took me since lvl 72 to 77 to make it just +5 spending alot of elixirs/per lvl, then i made it +6 at 78 and +7 at 80.
what i would like to ask is:
- should i go further? or just stay with this unicef colours?
- if i fix the atack rating (currently 0%) it will be a good improve on my damage?
waiting for answers thx in advance.
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:43 pm
by Nitro
Aryss wrote:
took me since lvl 72 to 77 to make it just +5 spending alot of elixirs/per lvl, then i made it +6 at 78 and +7 at 80.
what i would like to ask is:
- should i go further? or just stay with this unicef colours?
- if i fix the atack rating (currently 0%) it will be a good improve on my damage?
waiting for answers thx in advance.
Dont go further .... you can pretty much 1 hit anything now ...
I wouldnt gamble ...
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:03 pm
by Renton
Berto wrote:sromonk wrote:Thank you for your replies.
It seems that you are all up for me to take the challenge. anyone else have any suggestions.. success stories ... thanks again for the feedback..
I went +9 on a dual axe in just 9 elixer, no lucky stones, no premium. Shoot for that blue green shine

pic or it didnt happen