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Some hints against roques plix=O

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:04 pm
by Doctor_MOS
So tommorow i'll be pvping a friend of mine, he's a roque and we all know about their insane crits etc... (im a hybrid bow, 70:70)
I would like to know if someone got any experience against them, I was thinking about putting up an ice wall and just wait for the b1tch to show up

It's worth to mention that my friend knows how to play his character, he knoes what he's doing
He will proberly put his desperate on I think, so should I be able to 1 hit him? (I got 20k sp or something left so I'm quite strong)


*edit* my level is 52, he will be 49*

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:07 pm
by HertogJan
Whats youre level? Whats his level? Are you fully farmed?

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:11 pm
by Doctor_MOS
HertogJan wrote:Whats youre level? Whats his level? Are you fully farmed?
i'll be 52, and he will be 49

Yes im full farmed
52 pachepn/52 light/52 ice/40 fire

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:13 pm
by DarkJackal
phantom then atk and repeat lol.

Keep distance and don't try to tank >.> ;d.


Thought that probably works better at higher lvls with stun and knock back, if your ice that will help instead I guess >.>.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:16 pm
by -.-
what kind of rogue? :D

if xbow... you're range will be shorter lol
if dagger... he will try to stealth so use ice wall against prick, followed by a combo blow... so phantom away fast or use kb

after these 2 attacks and you live, just start hitting him with your attacks

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:17 pm
by Doctor_MOS
im 100% certain he will use stelath+daggers

So should I stay in my ice wall, and when he shows up activate my ice snow? Wouldn't I kill him with 1 strongbow when he gots desperate on?

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:20 pm
by DarkJackal
-.- wrote:what kind of rogue? :D

if xbow... you're range will be shorter lol
if dagger... he will try to stealth so use ice wall against prick, followed by a combo blow... so phantom away fast or use kb

after these 2 attacks and you live, just start hitting him with your attacks

He's to low for knock back.


Ice wall is a good idea if hes stealth lol, takes away that first hit he would get.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:22 pm
by -.-
heh i dont know kb lvl, havent played chinese bow before

o yeah, use ice if you got it
if you can freeze you'll win almost 100%
if you frostbite and he pills it, you'll phantom away and watch him chase you

o yeah, if you phantom, then attack right after and phatom again, dagger has speed buff that will get them to you almost as fast as phantom

edit: you might kill him in 1 attack... but he can do same to you, and daggers are faster than bow so defend first then attack when you have space

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:25 pm
by Pred
70:70 bow. Don't even bother. You'll probably die in one hit. lol.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:29 pm
by -.-
o yeah i forgot about this but if you have fire, use the combustion thing (the de-stealth skill) while in icewall and you are waiting for him to come

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:32 pm
by NuclearSilo
Ice wall lvl 1, snow shield. The only thing u have to do is waiting, then spam skills.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:47 pm
by Doctor_MOS
NuclearSilo wrote:Ice wall lvl 1, snow shield. The only thing u have to do is waiting, then spam skills.
He would probelry wait till my ice snow runs out

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:48 pm
by Doctor_MOS
Pred wrote:70:70 bow. Don't even bother. You'll probably die in one hit. lol.
with ice snow I have a better chance dan pure str lol..

thx for all the replies :) i'll post the outcome of it XD

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:49 pm
by DarkJackal
Buy some of those stealth reveal pots so he can't wait in stealth ;d lol, or get the skill >.>.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:56 pm
by Doctor_MOS
DarkJackal wrote:Buy some of those stealth reveal pots so he can't wait in stealth ;d lol, or get the skill >.>.
how do those pills work? do they work for like 1-2 minuts?

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:56 pm
by NuclearSilo
Doctor_MOS wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:Ice wall lvl 1, snow shield. The only thing u have to do is waiting, then spam skills.
He would probelry wait till my ice snow runs out

Then he could wait for his invisible skill to run out too.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:03 pm
by DarkJackal
Doctor_MOS wrote:
DarkJackal wrote:Buy some of those stealth reveal pots so he can't wait in stealth ;d lol, or get the skill >.>.
how do those pills work? do they work for like 1-2 minuts?

You just use one and if theres anyone around you in stealth you can see them for a lil bit.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:04 pm
by Doctor_MOS
DarkJackal wrote:
Doctor_MOS wrote:
DarkJackal wrote:Buy some of those stealth reveal pots so he can't wait in stealth ;d lol, or get the skill >.>.
how do those pills work? do they work for like 1-2 minuts?

You just use one and if theres anyone around you in stealth you can see them for a lil bit.
lol, I would be very lucky to have the correct timing lol...he proberly be at a range of 20m or something

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:12 pm
by UniQ
ice wall.... snow shield when he shows up.... then phantom away and try to 1 hit him...

its much easier if you would be a XXX & shield user, just use that buff which gives you more phy defense for 30 seconds and knock down stab stab him, with desperate he must die :)
good luck

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:18 pm
by Doctor_MOS
UniQ wrote:ice wall.... snow shield when he shows up.... then phantom away and try to 1 hit him...

its much easier if you would be a XXX & shield user, just use that buff which gives you more phy defense for 30 seconds and knock down stab stab him, with desperate he must die :)
good luck
Lol, guys I have level 30 bicheon ( i was a blader before:P)

with the buff on level 30 tus...Would it be effective to wield a shield?

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:21 pm
by ShadowSpell
DarkJackal wrote:
Doctor_MOS wrote:
DarkJackal wrote:Buy some of those stealth reveal pots so he can't wait in stealth ;d lol, or get the skill >.>.
how do those pills work? do they work for like 1-2 minuts?

You just use one and if theres anyone around you in stealth you can see them for a lil bit.


for 15 seconds and they have a 10m radius, then like a 30 second cool down, so he has to be close you you.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:44 pm
by HertogJan
nononono, pils + snow shield + detect = win!

Just dont stand very close to the safe zone, that is the big mistake people make. If you stand a bit away from the safe zone and survive the first hit, he cant run back to the safe zone asap. Create some distance and his lack of speed will play him parts.

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:14 pm
by DrunkiMunki
i am a rouge. My power is in my stealth.. cus i only use daggers for pvp. See me somehow, either detection or pills, and you win. And pay attention when you pvp rogues xD Dont pvp to close to safe zone, use all defense possible and react quick. If he can 1hit you, detect. 8)

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:36 am
by Doctor_MOS
Sup guys :D

I beaten him with something like 8 to 2....Wasn't really a hard match :D

I activated my superb ice wall everytime and just waited for him. When he came to prick me with his daggers, I activated ma snow shield, and phantomed away (after 1 prick mostly my ice wall was gone, if not after his combo it was)
so 16M range between him and me, 1 strong bow good game mate :D

He had some xbow skills too, tho it wasn't really much of a difference. My ice wall could take 2 hits of his xbow (yeah, those wern't that godly farmed)...Just a matter of activating snow shield, and phantoming towards him

Thx for all tips and hints and such
*muahahha <3 70:70 hybrid bow chinese*

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:42 am
by deep.in
Nice, gratz :D You should make a video, but meh, important thing is, that you prove euros aren't overpowered 8)

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:51 am
by MrFudge
deep.in wrote:Nice, gratz :D You should make a video, but meh, important thing is, that you prove euros aren't overpowered 8)


no, he proved that the 'omg use your walls' thing everyone in these forums says is true. That's how you beat euros, put that shit up and watch them complain.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:56 am
by THE_ZUL
yea video would be great

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:56 am
by Doctor_MOS
deep.in wrote:Nice, gratz :D You should make a video, but meh, important thing is, that you prove euros aren't overpowered 8)
My comp won't allow me to record a movie :) tho I will try in the future on my labtop

@fudge yeah, true also...If chinese played correctly in a 1v1 match euro's don't have that much of a chance
Hopefull people won''t b1tch about walls anymore, they are damn usefull

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:17 am
by ScZz
destealth , keep distance , hit range attack.
if destealth dont work , drop your weapon and run for your life xD

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:30 am
by Doctor_MOS
ScZz wrote:destealth , keep distance , hit range attack.
if destealth dont work , drop your weapon and run for your life xD
read how I did it....