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no wep tree guide
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:48 pm
by silverbreed
well i want to make a no wep build i need a skills guide
im gonna get powerfarmed to 30+ then grind so i want fire80 lightning80 cold80 and force60 first of all i no its prob not the best build but it sounds fun
and keep in mind iv neva used force in a build b4 so yeh
also if anyone else has this buils leve me feedback on what to expect
plz dont flame ty
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:50 pm
by Pietje
if you dont wanna have flame... dont start a topic
but it sounds cool, good luck with it
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:51 pm
by Quyxz
I think it couls have potential at higher caps, for example 100 cap that you have three force masteries at 100

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:58 pm
by silverbreed
yeh it might be tricky if i can in to rome been tryin for an hour so far
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:00 pm
by Aby
What? The? ****?
Why would you want force at anything under 80? Don't even go that way if you aren't planning on raising force to the cap, it's a waste of points and you're just bottlenecking your char.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:08 pm
by silverbreed
i dont care its an experment also What IMBUE???
um why whats wrong with 60 force??
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:12 pm
by Aby
Do you even know what vital spot is? o.O
SRO exp rates are too low to go for experiments that will fail..
Use lightning imbue coz its the shit
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:16 pm
by silverbreed
alright lightning it is and no i dont no what visual spot is iv neva used force b4 but i get when i pvp sometimes what is it?>./
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:20 pm
by Aby
It is the ONLY skill in force worth getting.
Like I said, if you're going to use force, raise it to the cap. Go for Ice 60, because you don't want a low lightning, You can't have fire 60 (you need 61, means force cant be 80), and you obviously dont want force 60.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:38 pm
by Trice
Vital spot turns force from "girly girly healy skill that clerics make obsolete" to "jebus, can i have you in my party to help rape mobs and people with no expensive pills pl0x"
and dear lord have you seen what the L90 vital spot does? DIVISION L9!!!!!
L9!!!
9! (current lightning chain from bicheon gives L8 on a 20% basis, vital spot does L9 80% of the time)
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:02 pm
by silverbreed
so 90 cap build should be lightning90 Force90 fire60 cold60
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:21 pm
by ranger4life
i'm testing that rite now...its working perfectly...on lv 61
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:25 pm
by Da_Realest
I'm also power farming a 80 fire 80 light 80 cold build. I'm not getting force, though. Should be pretty fun.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:27 pm
by Trice
yeah, but this confines you to being a pure int nuker. because, if you have no weapon tree you have no weapon skills, so you wont use normal hitting, thus you use nukes thus you will be int not str. but then you are a L90 int with cold at 60, thus you are gonna be boned. You could have cold 90, but then you have to have light 90 too, because a pure int nuker cannot have cold nukes as its main attack, thatd be nonsense. If you have light 90 and cold 90, you got to choose either force/fire 60, or force/fire 90/30. obviously, force 30 fire 90 would defeat the object of having a no weapon build, as force 30 does nothing and would just be there to avoid having a weapon skill. and force 60 was argued down on the basis of the higher level vital spots being, well, vital for a force build.
this leaves you with force 90 cold 90 light 90 fire 30.
Imo, if you use the vital spots well, its a viable build:
pros: vital spot division & vital spot mag def reduce = huge nuke damage
vital spot to reduce their attack means you dont have to run/rely on kd/stun to buy time.
self-heal in times of trouble
you can ressssssssss your buddies

:D:D:D:D
cons: what if they have a cleric?
what if they have pills?
they get render your spots ineffective and you are basically left with light 90, cold 90 and fire 30. which will make you think "damn, if i had sword skills i could kd him now" or "damn, if i had spear skills i could stun him now" etc etc
so yeah, you can have a no weapon build, but then its very very reliant on the force and vital spots, and that strength is its biggest weakness.
unless of course i missed something, in which case feel free to correct me =)
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:32 pm
by silverbreed
ranger4life wrote:i'm testing that rite now...its working perfectly...on lv 61
whats ur 90cap build?
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:10 pm
by CLOT
silverbreed wrote:ranger4life wrote:i'm testing that rite now...its working perfectly...on lv 61
whats ur 90cap build?
light 90 fire 90 cold 90 something else u like 30
real pure nuker but no disabling skills at all to survive/escape
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:08 pm
by imp3r10
as a nuker youd want force at 80 so u can get teh division and impotent attacks, other than that its pointless
x
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:38 pm
by jay0303
bro if u are s/s then u can let go of fire u will need mana shield
if i spear then forget fore to the cap u will need mana shield
so i would go s/s
90 lightning
90 ice
90force and 30 fire sword
Re: x
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:10 pm
by the_wicked
jay0303 wrote:bro if u are s/s then u can let go of fire u will need mana shield
if i spear then forget fore to the cap u will need mana shield
so i would go s/s
90 lightning
90 ice
90force and 30 fire sword
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he isnt using wep class
anyway....if you wana pwn in PVP go 90 force 90 light 90 cold...fire is kind of expendable as a nuker...
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:19 pm
by bLuE_fLaMe
be a pure int s&s nuker they pwn every1 on any server unless theres a +13 glavie or something in their way...or a very good bowman.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:40 pm
by †erminal
anyone know KenN ? he has a pure damage build, light, spear, force, pure int, and he does actually own
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:01 am
by raged!
this is the worest build ive ever seen
have fun wasting your time
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:05 am
by Aby
Lawl @ 60 fire, and not reading my posts.
Go look at the difference in mag def between 61 and 60 fire.. If it's below 61, not worth it. That's why we should all petition joymax for a cap raise to 301
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:53 am
by silverbreed
well boys after review to be capped at lv80 i will need 449,382sp from now and at lv90 i will need 820,248sp from now
thats 80cap
80cold
80lightning (imbue)
30fire
80force
270 mastery
90cap
90cold
90lightning(imbue)
30fire
90force
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:12 pm
by Itonami
My mom uses this build and she pwns everyone on her server.
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:30 pm
by ResTnPieces
good luck, seems its s good build to me.
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:46 am
by silverbreed
reporting lv16 XD its hard to lv when my friends arnt on
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:50 am
by thAi
I can't stand not having a weapon tree. I wanna see them cool moves :p
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:58 am
by Hitman144
take out 60 force, and do 60 bicheon, you would do way better
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:20 am
by papa59roach
the problem with this build is its boring. no smexy chains? no kd+stab? no weapon skills at all??? just nuke attacks? sooo borring >_<