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It really is... lol

I'll tell u how after u guys discuss a bit. Does anyone have an idea how to kill a rogue before it eats u alive?

EDIT: Rogues is unpawnable in a job/guild war. But pvp - easyyyy *coughforabladercough*

Crni_Vatreni wrote:It really is... lol

I'll tell u how after u guys discuss a bit. Does anyone have an idea how to kill a rogue before it eats u alive?

EDIT: Rogues is unpawnable in a job/guild war. But pvp - easyyyy *coughforabladercough*

nope they have the stealth skill..
and the crit is so high..

if you are able to detect the rouge on time then it's over for him.

im a nuker, i manage to eat rogues my own level by doin this:

Stand in middle all buffed and shiny. snow shield. icewall. as soon as the rogue destealths to dagger you, castle shield and nuke + kd, or nuke + shout x2 or nuke nuke shout, whatever is needed that can be done quick to kill the little fecker. nuke + kd is preferred coz due to their potting the stab pretty much kills them

if its an xbow rogue, their first destealth hit kills your ice wall, then castle shield + nuke followed by phantom kd stab

tada. dead rogues.


for wizard is same, just use fire shield ^_^

Crni_Vatreni wrote:It really is... lol

I'll tell u how after u guys discuss a bit. Does anyone have an idea how to kill a rogue before it eats u alive?

EDIT: Rogues is unpawnable in a job/guild war. But pvp - easyyyy *coughforabladercough*

well tell ur idea..?

Crni_Vatreni wrote:It really is... lol

I'll tell u how after u guys discuss a bit. Does anyone have an idea how to kill a rogue before it eats u alive?

EDIT: Rogues is unpawnable in a job/guild war. But pvp - easyyyy *coughforabladercough*

I don't agree.

for a start invis/stealth is there for the char to kill you when you least expect it. if you're gonna ice wall + snow shield ++++ then i'll rather just stay in stealth until you're tired of standing a cube, or when your snow shield goes down. at the most i'll just go elsewhere and pk someone else with my imbaness before finding you when you LEAST EXPECT IT.

and one more thing...xbow and mage range are far greater than nuker's nuke range.

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Tell us. Maybe they have shadow when stealth?

u r a cocky noob, soon in 9dgr u will get owned, now u have suns only reason u r owning them easy, a rouge with sub cleric will own u easy

lol rogue is easy to deal with once you know they are coming and be prepared for it. rogue depends on moment of surprise of the ignorant of their enemy.
A good rogue will keep their enemy guessing.

Once I had several people keep using expensive pills running around trying to detect me when I already unsuited in stealth and went AFK. Wonder how long it took them to realize I wasn't there anymore.

However most of those counter-measure can easily be bypassed by having a partner. Someone to take off that Crystal wall, and let the prick begin

Juey wrote:lol rogue is easy to deal with once you know they are coming and be prepared for it. rogue depends on moment of surprise of the ignorant of their enemy.
A good rogue will keep their enemy guessing.

Once I had several people keep using expensive pills running around trying to detect me when I already unsuited in stealth and went AFK. Wonder how long it took them to realize I wasn't there anymore.

However most of those counter-measure can easily be bypassed by having a partner. Someone to take off that Crystal wall, and let the prick begin

LOL

+1 to joey

Anyways when will you guys realize that "pvp" means party verus party, and no longer means player verus player. lol

Lol Crni... Youre just happy you can beat rogues cuz you killed my lvl 30 rogue ¬¬

Trice wrote:im a nuker, i manage to eat rogues my own level by doin this:

Stand in middle all buffed and shiny. snow shield. icewall. as soon as the rogue destealths to dagger you, castle shield and nuke + kd, or nuke + shout x2 or nuke nuke shout, whatever is needed that can be done quick to kill the little fecker. nuke + kd is preferred coz due to their potting the stab pretty much kills them

if its an xbow rogue, their first destealth hit kills your ice wall, then castle shield + nuke followed by phantom kd stab

tada. dead rogues.

for wizard is same, just use fire shield ^_^

lol dont be so sure of your self, if your fighting a SMART euro, they would knock that castle shield or fire shield off you quicker then you knew what hit you and you still would be dead

Pop it

Because it's a lvl 20 Rogue and they don't own jack until they get their buffs

Trice wrote:im a nuker, i manage to eat rogues my own level by doin this:

Stand in middle all buffed and shiny. snow shield. icewall. as soon as the rogue destealths to dagger you, castle shield and nuke + kd, or nuke + shout x2 or nuke nuke shout, whatever is needed that can be done quick to kill the little fecker. nuke + kd is preferred coz due to their potting the stab pretty much kills them

if its an xbow rogue, their first destealth hit kills your ice wall, then castle shield + nuke followed by phantom kd stab

tada. dead rogues.


for wizard is same, just use fire shield ^_^

yep .
+1
same stuff works for me

Juey wrote:However most of those counter-measure can easily be bypassed by having a partner. Someone to take off that Crystal wall, and let the prick begin

u mean 2v 1 .... of course u win lal

YaNiv wrote:u r a cocky noob, soon in 9dgr u will get owned, now u have suns only reason u r owning them easy, a rouge with sub cleric will own u easy

Sorry sandy but if you think that at 90 cap .. whenever it comes Euro's will be anywhere near as powerful as they are now, you are mistaken.

Another blah blah thread tbh. +1 to growing ur e-penis

I fought a same level rogue who kept trying to kill me. (lvl 52 at the time).

So, at least for a spear/glaive char, it's easy to kill a rogue (assuming 0 gap).

If you know that one is coming, usually he would take the most direct route to you. Generally speaking though, if it's an American/european player though, the route they take is more circuitious. If it is turk/middle eastern it's a straight line from their original location. Perhaps this is an artifact of counterstrike...but whatever.

Anyway, assuming that they are coming straight to you, just keep activating imbue and hold the mouse selector EXACTLY where they would appear; as soon as they destealth to do prick (since that's the most damaging move), do the heuksal spiny damage attack. Assuming it's same level with a 0-gap, and that the rogue has desperate daggars on, it'll be a one hit (I know this is true for a pure int spear, and I'd assuming that it'd probably be true for pure str, but I could be wrong).

The turk who kept attacking me in stealth but dying then called one of his high level guildmates to come kill me...the guildmate was around 73...without ice immunity...or pills. Mmm...popsicle turk. (followed by me running into town...since of course, I'm the noob >.>)

Anyway, alternateively, you could activate ice shield right before you expect the attack, and it'd stop the first hit (the most damaging one since when attackign in stealth gets like +120 physical attack or something with a passive) and then...they're toast. Unless a rogue kills in the first hit...it's screwed.

hmmm this is a nice topic u guys covered it up great , but u should make one for anti-wizard pvp

yeah lets hear what you guys have to say how to stop a wizard? and dont forget a wizard has invisilble, KB at almost 100%, root, and fear both at 80%, oh yeah dont forget teleport (I have 18m), and that always loved fire/lava trap.

Theory is just thoughts
but when a Rouge does make a killer blow u cant do nothing
as soon as he starts the killer attack u cant move buff or anything ur plain screwed

Um what about the stealth detection potions. Just detect their stealth and get them first DD leaves them weak. Maybe stealth detect potions don’t work like that, I dunno.

soulreapr wrote:yeah lets hear what you guys have to say how to stop a wizard? and dont forget a wizard has invisilble, KB at almost 100%, root, and fear both at 80%, oh yeah dont forget teleport (I have 18m), and that always loved fire/lava trap.

Easy .... Firewall? LOL

Deacon wrote:Another blah blah thread tbh. +1 to growing ur e-penis

lol dude, you fail

Yeah, anyway one way to beat rogue is for you to be rogue

easy to kill? they r fast and crit damn high....

u stand no chance if they CRIT,KB and KD u......

soulreapr wrote:yeah lets hear what you guys have to say how to stop a wizard? and dont forget a wizard has invisilble, KB at almost 100%, root, and fear both at 80%, oh yeah dont forget teleport (I have 18m), and that always loved fire/lava trap.

Anyone who has ever played a wizard will tell you knockback is more like 500%, and fear is more like 30%. Idk why anyone would ever use root..

Crumpets wrote:

soulreapr wrote:yeah lets hear what you guys have to say how to stop a wizard? and dont forget a wizard has invisilble, KB at almost 100%, root, and fear both at 80%, oh yeah dont forget teleport (I have 18m), and that always loved fire/lava trap.

Easy .... Firewall? LOL

lol not that easy, i just use a plain attack and knock it off you then 1 hit you anyways, a wizard got alot longer attack distance and then after its off, use lightning knock them back which cancels your atack and then hit them with meteor, and with meteor lvl 76(not even 80 skill) it does 16k damage to a lvl 80 str, and firewall, thats not beating them thats just sitting there waiting, what happens if they wait for you to attack?

i love it when bladers use firewall on warlocks...

they are stuck there while i debuff them