Who would win?

Woohoo · Post by **Woohoo** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:01 pm

I don't know after seeing all the fights and pvping a lot. I believe when it comes to fighting 80vs80 with regular +5 garment full blue gears, the only difference is their weapon. A sun blade/shield+7 vs a sun glavie+7. I think the blader can kill him and have a higher chance of killing and lasting longer. Think about it, the blader have extra high defense from his shield and also block. While the sun glavier just have his glavier and no defense. Plus with the blader 3 stats, impotent, division, and bleed.

What do you think. I believe a sun blader/shield is the best sun out there for kill and defense.

imp3r10 · Post by **imp3r10** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:04 pm

i'd say glavie

blader can tank but in the end it all comes down to hits, which the glavie would win

ShadowSpell · Post by **ShadowSpell** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:05 pm

did you forget that a glavier has stun, dull and KB, and a glavie hits alot harder then a blade, the matches I've seen the glavier wins.

jabbers · Post by **jabbers** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:06 pm

well if he can afford sun+7 glaive than he can probably afford the expensive pills so those status effects shouldnt make much diff

BalkanFanaticS · Post by **BalkanFanaticS** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:07 pm

blader would win if : never, it simply cant do enougth dmg .

glavie would win if : its gets in a stun and a few crits .

glavie would happen first

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:10 pm

BalkanFanaticS wrote:blader would win if : never, it simply cant do enougth dmg .

glavie would win if : its gets in a stun and a few crits .

glavie would happen first

lol how maney crits are you talking about? 5? won't happen

Burningwolf · Post by **Burningwolf** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:13 pm

well ill say
40% the blader will win
60% the glaive will win
at the 80 cap
75% the blader will win
25% the glaive will win
at the 90 cap :wink:

Quyxz · Post by **Quyxz** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:25 pm

is the wep the only difference, or do the skills also differ :?:

Saman · Post by **Saman** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:27 pm

nubs, a hybrid will win

Crni_Vatreni · Post by **Crni_Vatreni** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:00 pm

Blader would win.
No way a sun glaive can penetrate sun shield - br 19+ and critical parry ratio 100 (100%).
Blader can kill now. Division + kd + stab x (crit + crit + crit) = own.

What?
U dont believe it?

Well...
My crit is 16 xD and 3 crits in kd + stab do happen. I killed a lvl 80 full farmed glaiver that way... but I was very lucky. And he didnt have sun glaive. But im 74 :roll:

raysisfenix · Post by **raysisfenix** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:03 pm

i'll rather say pot fight until one of them run out of pot

Woohoo · Post by **Woohoo** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:05 pm

I also believe a sun blader/shield with that defense gear would win. Think about it, a sun blader puts around 4-5k damage consistently and with stats on me around 6-8k damage. I have a +5 gears and accessory full blues and that's how much damage they put me. ANd I'm a blader myself with shield and still cant beat a sun blade/shield. Now a glavie have no shield on. They have no chance whatsoever.

7 out of 10 times, a blader will always win.

BaronSengir · Post by **BaronSengir** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:51 pm

no sun here and a 80 farmed sun glavie cant even kill me figures

Disconn3cted · Post by **Disconn3cted** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:52 pm

i think the blade would eventually win anyone who doesn't agree with me probably hasn't seen the effects of bleed, impotent, and division

i was fighting niya guards with my guild leader and normally my nukes did 7.7k to them after she had bleed and division on them i was hitting over 10k and i was amazed (i am lvl 70 hybrid s/s 84% magic balance naked)

the_wicked · Post by **the_wicked** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:00 am

Depends on if the glaive buys the special pills. Bladers will win if the yhave the status errors....believe me, at 75 with skills at 73, i can kill 80 glaivers with ok gear(like +3 with blues). I have done it before. however full sosun, i say potfight unless blader gets bleed + division + 2 or more crits

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:11 am

blader suck...

glaver would own him

AdventLife · Post by **AdventLife** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:17 am

Nobody would win, would torun into a pot battle, the Blader would block too much especially if its sosun shield, and it wont do enough damage.

Crni_Vatreni · Post by **Crni_Vatreni** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:19 am

Fat_Smurf wrote:blader suck...

glaver would own him

Shut up nub. Flamez ftw

CLOT · Post by **CLOT** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:26 am

well ill say
40% the blader will win
60% the glaive will win
at the 80 cap
75% the blader will win
25% the glaive will win
at the 90 cap

heard that even there is 90 cap, which isnt even confirmed that its coming together wif castle siege, there wun be new skills, ie. only a cap rise

90 cap wif no new skills = no 1 can kill each other wif same old 80 skills but every 1 has more hp and better armour > 9D weap

Mafiaz · Post by **Mafiaz** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:29 am

The glave would.

Naigasakis_Rebirth · Post by **Naigasakis_Rebirth** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:38 am

Lol, its been done so many times. They wail on eachother back and forth till run lags, runs out of pots.

I actually tend to see bladers get the three crits in a row neccessary to kill the glaiver. You forget they have the extra critical protection over the glaive.

atlanser · Post by **atlanser** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:42 am

Ever since the bladers got the new status effect skills they got a much better chance. Even though you got pills, they still have a long delay, and they are very expensive

raged! · Post by **raged!** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:14 am

if anyone would win it would be the glavie

bladers simply does not do enough damage, even with the effects we still dont. infact bladers even have trouble killing ints and hybrid ints with snowshield.

anyways, assuming that the glavier can afford a sun glavie, he could probably get a nice 8d shield with 16%+ BR. when hes KD'd he switches to shield. if he got status error, he will use special pill, i see this as a pot fight, but if anyone would win it would be the glavier, with 3 crits he can easily own the blader.

Burningwolf wrote:well ill say
40% the blader will win
60% the glaive will win
at the 80 cap
75% the blader will win
25% the glaive will win
at the 90 cap

no, basically, at 90 and 100 caps, all the other builds will get 1337 skillz, while bladers will get a shitty new stab, so basically

80cap
45% bladers quit

90cap
another 50% bladers quit

100cap
bladers face extinction

150cap
"mommy, whats a blader?"

and please dont reply with bullshit like, 'omg u = glavier, go make a blader and pvp'

i have a 7x pure str blader, hes not capped, but hes good, as in he can tank. but thats about it.
in my guild/union we have several 80 bladers, who all quit because their bladers simply do not do enough damage.

Airbeat · Post by **Airbeat** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:41 am

Kids defending their own build :roll:

Boontang · Post by **Boontang** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:45 am

Why does it matter? a wizard w/ life control would mop the floor w/ them. A rogue w/ desperate daggers on using prick will win...simple fact.

Oh and Bow would win too XD (11 arrow knock back).

Silver0 · Post by **Silver0** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:48 am

Check ksro vids or csro/ and other version 1 blader in a crowd or 20 and he has sun +11 shield and blade and still sucks there is a reason for that thats why joymax has taken the effect bleed so now they can kill cuz it lower there defense by alot

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:50 am

Crni_Vatreni wrote:
Fat_Smurf wrote:blader suck...

glaver would own him

Shut up nub. Flamez ftw

lol blader can't kill anyone... I doubt they would win

Woohoo · Post by **Woohoo** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:00 am

raged! wrote:if anyone would win it would be the glavie

bladers simply does not do enough damage, even with the effects we still dont. infact bladers even have trouble killing ints and hybrid ints with snowshield.

anyways, assuming that the glavier can afford a sun glavie, he could probably get a nice 8d shield with 16%+ BR. when hes KD'd he switches to shield. if he got status error, he will use special pill, i see this as a pot fight, but if anyone would win it would be the glavier, with 3 crits he can easily own the blader.
.

Dude what you been smoking. Yes, regular weapon blader CANT KILL, but a SUN BLADER CAN

And what hell is that? I'm talking about pure pvp only with only skill moves. NO switching to shield during KD and NO using pills. Just to see who will come out victorious. And sun blader/shield will come out victorious.

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:01 am

raged! wrote:if anyone would win it would be the glavie

bladers simply does not do enough damage, even with the effects we still dont. infact bladers even have trouble killing ints and hybrid ints with snowshield.

anyways, assuming that the glavier can afford a sun glavie, he could probably get a nice 8d shield with 16%+ BR. when hes KD'd he switches to shield. if he got status error, he will use special pill, i see this as a pot fight, but if anyone would win it would be the glavier, with 3 crits he can easily own the blader.

Burningwolf wrote:well ill say
40% the blader will win
60% the glaive will win
at the 80 cap
75% the blader will win
25% the glaive will win
at the 90 cap

no, basically, at 90 and 100 caps, all the other builds will get 1337 skillz, while bladers will get a shitty new stab, so basically

80cap
45% bladers quit

90cap
another 50% bladers quit

100cap
bladers face extinction

150cap
"mommy, whats a blader?"

and please dont reply with bullshit like, 'omg u = glavier, go make a blader and pvp'

i have a 7x pure str blader, hes not capped, but hes good, as in he can tank. but thats about it.
in my guild/union we have several 80 bladers, who all quit because their bladers simply do not do enough damage.

actually the 100 cap chain and 90 cap chain has stun and dull >.> [STUN!!!] so a 6 hit combo and 5% stun per hit eventually you will get stunned. + the dull another 6 hit combo with 20% dull per hit :shock:

. the smash techs and chains will make bladers just as deadly as glaivers

there are other status effects but i forgot them. point is when 100 cap and 90 cap come with the skills WATCH OUT FOR THOSE BLADERS! [it'll be the ice blader shit all over again >.<]

jabbers · Post by **jabbers** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:05 am

Woohoo wrote:
raged! wrote:if anyone would win it would be the glavie

bladers simply does not do enough damage, even with the effects we still dont. infact bladers even have trouble killing ints and hybrid ints with snowshield.

anyways, assuming that the glavier can afford a sun glavie, he could probably get a nice 8d shield with 16%+ BR. when hes KD'd he switches to shield. if he got status error, he will use special pill, i see this as a pot fight, but if anyone would win it would be the glavier, with 3 crits he can easily own the blader.
.

Dude what you been smoking. Yes, regular weapon blader CANT KILL, but a SUN BLADER CAN

And what hell is that? I'm talking about pure pvp only with only skill moves. NO switching to shield during KD and NO using pills. Just to see who will come out victorious. And sun blader/shield will come out victorious.

no switching to shield during KD?? lol u been pvping with grandma again? that makes no sense "pure pvp" ?? are you joking... cuz I thought that was when they stripped down to no gear and no weapon and just punched at each other.