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+7 question
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:42 pm
by ShadowSpell
for those of you that have made a +7, how much or how many weapons elixirs did it take, and did all of you use astral to make it, I'm thinking about trying to make my 72+5 staff to a +7 without astral and trying to get an idea if I spent say 20 mil on elixirs which on Alps would get me about 115 weapon elixirs what my chances of getting a +7 or +8 would be, i do have premium for the little added luck.
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:43 pm
by Woohoo
That's suicide and waste of gold without astral and immortal, you probably end up destroying your weapon.
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:45 pm
by LordOffWar
well i had a sos glavie lvl 42+3 i made+5 i got angry cuz my glavie lvl 64 failed on +7 and got destory so i said **** gaymax and i tryed 2 elixirs on my sos glavie lvl 42 and it ended in+7 without immortal or astral
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:45 pm
by strangelove
You'll destroy it faster than you can make it +7. (If you choose not to add Immortal, that is.)
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:47 pm
by Fat_Smurf
hum use immortal and lucky for +6 and +7. it took around 50-60 weapon elixir to ge tit +7 it was +5. and I used 2 immortal stone, astral is useless since if your aiming for +7 +4 shouldn't be a problem.
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:07 pm
by mike2007
if u have to ask u dont wanna know
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:13 pm
by ShadowSpell
mike2005 wrote:if u have to ask u dont wanna know
Well thats why im asking, I have only made a +6 before and now with my wizard I want to get to a +7+8 staff, what I might do is take one of my other lvl 72 staffs and try to get it to +7 and if it works then add the blues, the tough part is my current staff is so pimped its not even funny, I have a 72+5 mag attack 80% attack rating on top is 60% and mag reinforce is 80%, then blues are str100% int100%, blocking100%, attack rating 100% durability100%, steady and immortal, so I'm sure your aware how hard it is to build a weapon like that.
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:16 pm
by Fat_Smurf
yo got immortal? add lucky and go +7
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:57 pm
by Gman22
Took me 2 elixirs.
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:42 pm
by mike2007
soulreapr wrote:mike2005 wrote:if u have to ask u dont wanna know
Well thats why im asking, I have only made a +6 before and now with my wizard I want to get to a +7+8 staff, what I might do is take one of my other lvl 72 staffs and try to get it to +7 and if it works then add the blues, the tough part is my current staff is so pimped its not even funny, I have a 72+5 mag attack 80% attack rating on top is 60% and mag reinforce is 80%, then blues are str100% int100%, blocking100%, attack rating 100% durability100%, steady and immortal, so I'm sure your aware how hard it is to build a weapon like that.
ive made 2 +7s so far; a 68 and a 64. the 64 took about 15 elixers and maybe $30-40 for silk. the 68 took easily twice as many elixers and twice as much money for silk. the 72 im makin a +7 right now ive wasted easily 20 elixers so far but at least $80 for silk and its still only +5. keep in mind that i always use astrals unlike some ppl
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:53 pm
by the_wicked
I have a 72+5 crit 12 str 4 int 5 dura 80 attack rating 40% br 100 steady 1 blade...nice whites too. I wana go for +7 but immortal is so dammed expensive =_= 5$ for one? screw it, ill live with +5.
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:56 pm
by ShadowSpell
well i have a drop staff I bought a few weeks back that has immortal 3 times on it and im going to see if I can get it to +7 +8, when i do I'll let you guys know how many elixirs I spent. +8 i'm guessing 200
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:03 pm
by heroo
immortal is a must have for +7.
lucky is your choice.
astral is a big NO.
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:23 pm
by ___ONLY___
i made a fresh 72 spear drop +5 with 5 elixirs once
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:28 pm
by TwIsTeD69
I've used around 400 elixirs just to +5 my sos lvl 64 blade w/o astral and it's still not +5.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:33 pm
by heroo
TwIsTeD69 wrote:I've used around 400 elixirs just to +5 my sos lvl 64 blade w/o astral and it's still not +5.

rofl pwned, i made my lvl 32 SOm glaivie 3 times +5 and 1 time +6 , using only 110 elixers or so.
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:05 pm
by PileOfMush
heroo wrote:immortal is a must have for +7.
lucky is your choice.
astral is a big NO.
Also, consider this... if you can't get it to +5 without blowing a fortune in elixirs on it... you'll never get it to 7. Get another weapon and start over. Every item has a certain amount of unknown luck you can only discover painfully by trying elixir after elixir.
Immortals and steady can keep your weapon from breaking, so they're a must-have.
If you're going to use lucky on it, first get it to 5 (or maybe even 6 if luck stones are in short supply or too expensive for you). But don't add luck on a +0 weapon and start from there. You might lose it before you even get to 5.
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:01 am
by Endou
I've made two +7 spears. First was from +4 up. Used astral + immo + steady
The second +7 i made was a few days ago. From +5 up. Only immortal and steady. They both are MUSTS. Astral really is optional, or if you got the $$$
=] It's all random luck, few weeks ago I had +6 shield, tried 7, and it broke =D had no immortal lols.
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:37 am
by anhkevin
let see..i have wasted over 300m on weapon elixir and luck stones. over $300 on immortal and astral....my weapon 64 sun is still at +5. I got angry and transfer my weapon to a lvl8 stall chara plusing it without astral or luck stones. Got it to +7 in 20 elixir.
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:41 am
by peex3
My guild mate bought yesterday a +5 glaive and went straight to +0 then in one go with lucky stone +0->+7. I wonder why im never that lucky

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:38 am
by 0nix
Gman22 wrote:Took me 2 elixirs.
yeah yeah..
took me about 25+ elixirs.
+7
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:44 am
by ryan1166
Well i had som Lv52+4 shield, Got it to +7 with Imo+steady+astral
took me alot of elixirs.. 26 I think..

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:54 am
by torch69
me n friends have spent at least 300 elixirs on a spear and several millions. We have gotten it three times to +5 and one to +6....weve finally decided to stop and wait for cap lol....Its at five now but for a long time it wouldnt even go past +3....alchemy is such a beatch. There is no trick to it just probability. I guess to answer the question....always use immortal, steady and lucky if you can but it doesent guarantee anything.
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:34 am
by shoto
i have exactly +7'ed 3 weapons w/o immortal
i have tried +7'ing about 12 weapons, the rest have either failed or been destroyed 50% chance
lol
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:30 am
by Good_Apollo
i bought my glavie almost full 100% blues early 80 cap with decent whites and immortal 1.. got a astral from a friend and only needed 2 elixers/lucky pwder.
ownt
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:37 am
by Heie
dont want to make a new topic so i'll ask here as well
i bought 72+4 glaive crit 2 phy 52% for 7 mil
got the crit to 7 in two tries (which i can live with)
+5 in one try
str 5 in one try
the int that was on int (2->5) one try
dura 120(100%) one try
atk rating failed 3 times but when it worked went to 40%(100%)
and br ratio 32 % only tried once
IMO it seems like a lucky glaive
im also debating whether to go for +7
i will most likely get an immortal, lucky and steady. (screw astral >_>)
oh and this all happen with no premium
thoughts..comments.. anyone?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:27 am
by Penguin13
Hmm.. I, personally, have never legitly made a +7 (meaning from low + to 7, with or without astral), but depending on the luck of the item itself, it will be either so easy, a hobo could do it, or so difficult, that not even jesus himself could get it past +6.
Heie, just try a few times to go for +5 or higher.. if it doesn't take.. then just splurge on astrals. You saved a BUNCH of money on that glaive anyway.
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:37 am
by EpicBaek
Gman22 wrote:Took me 2 elixirs.
Same here, had bought me astral and immortal..
But when your sometimes lucky you wont need it

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:14 am
by The Phenomenon Nay
u foolz dnt kno how to make a +7 without astrals, if u hav tried makin a +7 be4 u would kno that astrals make it worse 90% of the time (just a normal judgin %) the trick is, dnt use weapon elixrs all the time, only on weapons, and dnt try to +7 all in the same time, take your time, only use astrals in major things that u cant loose at all like ur 64 sun or somthing ... imortal is important
Re: +7 question
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:50 pm
by bigmachini
soulreapr wrote:for those of you that have made a +7, how much or how many weapons elixirs did it take, and did all of you use astral to make it, I'm thinking about trying to make my 72+5 staff to a +7 without astral and trying to get an idea if I spent say 20 mil on elixirs which on Alps would get me about 115 weapon elixirs what my chances of getting a +7 or +8 would be, i do have premium for the little added luck.
you dont even want to know its a matter of luck maybe on day the gm will be on your side and let you +7 it took me about 7 months to get my +7