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how to fix euro "overpower" problem
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:57 am
by Love
i say give chinease 3 mastery and euro 2 fair enough ?
ftr i dont think euro toons are overpower but this would make things a bit more even
Re: how to fix euro "overpower" problem
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:58 am
by rumpleKillskin
Love wrote:i say give chinease 3 mastery and euro 2 fair enough ?
I say you just wasted a topic.
Nothing is going to change, so keep your dreams to yourself unless they have a chance of going somewhere.
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:01 am
by Dian Jie
goodbye and thanks for playing
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:09 am
by Kawaii
ouch you guys. Everyone in ksro is chinese. There has to be something to that.
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:10 am
by rumpleKillskin
Kawaii wrote:ouch you guys. Everyone in ksro is chinese. There has to be something to that.
Everyone???

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:11 am
by Boontang
Fix euro problem: give euro 15 sec pot delay..oh wait
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:16 am
by Nyahgis
Joymax said they wouldn't change it, but something nobody looked at is that this game isn't complete and thus in theory still beta. kSro would be the "beta-testing" hub of this game. If it goes so unbalanced that playing chinese characters is completely worthless and that the two mastery system doesn't warrant all the time and money spend on them, and playing becomes impossible, then I bet JM will look at it. Fanspear and Mountain shield series got changed, we got new skills, yada yada, so JM is adding/modifying to the game so it becomes more playable.
Stop worrying. You guys might think JM doesn't give a flying **** about its users, but that's because most of you are shallow minded fucks anyways. The game keeps on drawing users, and the game is still working out. If it needs a desperate fix, it will be addressed. [Don't shove bullshit concerning the bots and the ccfing business in my face. The ccfing issue has been something that JM has been working on [notice billgate beeing down? t'was the number one source of ccfed silk], and the botting is obviously something more difficult to aproach then you guys think. Remember, JM isn't into BANNING its botters/customers. If anything they'll try to prevent them from botting. Since that isnt' an easy step that wouldn't interfere with the gameplay, they haven't fixed it yet...]
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:19 am
by rumpleKillskin
Nyahgis wrote:Joymax said they wouldn't change it, but something nobody looked at is that this game isn't complete and thus in theory still beta. kSro would be the "beta-testing" hub of this game. If it goes so unbalanced that playing chinese characters is completely worthless and that the two mastery system doesn't warrant all the time and money spend on them, and playing becomes impossible, then I bet JM will look at it. Fanspear and Mountain shield series got changed, we got new skills, yada yada, so JM is adding/modifying to the game so it becomes more playable.
Stop worrying. You guys might think JM doesn't give a flying **** about its users, but that's because most of you are shallow minded fucks anyways. The game keeps on drawing users, and the game is still working out. If it needs a desperate fix, it will be addressed. [Don't shove bullshit concerning the bots and the ccfing business in my face. The ccfing issue has been something that JM has been working on [notice billgate beeing down? t'was the number one source of ccfed silk], and the botting is obviously something more difficult to aproach then you guys think. Remember, JM isn't into BANNING its botters/customers. If anything they'll try to prevent them from botting. Since that isnt' an easy step that wouldn't interfere with the gameplay, they haven't fixed it yet...]
This post was pretty good, especially the last one.
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:23 am
by Love
i am only worry after lvl 100 and for those who say quit the game __l__ i have lvl 80 chinease and 7x euro just saying would be more fair if chinease had 3 mastery and euro 2
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:26 am
by rumpleKillskin
even if it was some how fair * I dont know how* It wont ever happen since most if not all sro's have the euro update, and they wont go in and patch something that is already there.
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:27 am
by 0nix
Dian Jie wrote:goodbye and thanks for playing
+1 lol
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:37 am
by MrFudge
rumpleKillskin wrote:Kawaii wrote:ouch you guys. Everyone in ksro is chinese. There has to be something to that.
Everyone???

yeah. except for euro clerics.
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:52 am
by mKaaru
Kawaii wrote:ouch you guys. Everyone in ksro is chinese. There has to be something to that.
everyone or lets be honest and just say that the majority of ksro are actually european :O why would they be chinese rofl you dumb piece of shit that does says random shit while actually knowing jack shit
euro chars:
need less sp to be fully farmed
have more skills
need less masteries to be a strong and fun build
have more powerfull attacks
have more diverse buffs
have overpowered party buffs
level faster through party grinding
can still solo using vigors and choosing the right build
chinese:
need way more sp to a point that you people need to be n0-lifers to collect the sp necessary to become fully farmed at any cap past lvl80
have less skills
demand way too much masteries to a strong and fun build
are less powerfull, attacks sux (animations and more)
cheap buffs, both solo and for group use
level faster when you use softmod, tbot, isrobot, multiclienting and powerleveling from 1 to 71
yeah ksro is filled with chinese chars that way now that the 100cap is released :O think again dumb shit
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:00 am
by tedtwilliger
Love wrote:i am only worry after lvl 100 and for those who say quit the game __l__ i have lvl 80 chinease and 7x euro just saying would be more fair if chinease had 3 mastery and euro 2
THIS GAME ISNT CHINESE VERSUS EURO!I'm going to quote myself from a different thread
tedtwilliger wrote:1st of all you need to realize this game isnt euro vs chinese
If you say that cleric tanked a fair few glaviers, imagine a pure str chinese blader with the bless spell, all the european buffs such as defense, bless, intl str etc, having constant healing by a cleric, using snow shield at 50% and having a bard recover their hp constantly.
I'd like to see how many people it takes to kill that character. Even 5 rouges couldn't kill it.
And even if a rouge can 1 hit someone 10 levels below you, using fire combustion you can simply lion shout him to death.
Thats what you are missing. Euros and chinese should work together to make up for each others weaknesses.
Some of that isn't too relevant to here, but u need to understand that there isnt an over powered state between races. Bloody hell. This game isn't about how many times a euro can kill a chinese. Put euros amazing team abilities and offense together with the chinese's great defense and status causing attack and you have yourself a winning team right there.
I swear the next person who makes a "euro it too strong" thread is going to get their
fucking throat slit. Bloody hell.
EDIT
mKaaru wrote:chinese:
need way more sp to a point that you people need to be n0-lifers to collect the sp necessary to become fully farmed at any cap past lvl80
The sp needed isn't a lot more. And considering chinese characters do party with euro characters they all collect sp at the same rate in the right situation, so its not hard to be farmed at all. Also with power farming thats solved even more.
have less skillsconsidering i have 4 trees, its not to many less
demand way too much masteries to a strong and fun build and? each mastery costs less sp per mastery than a euro one does, so it levels out. Amd who are you to define what "fun" is?
are less powerfull, attacks sux (animations and more)less offense for more defense, 15 seocnd pot delay much?
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:49 am
by iGod
Yes but i agree with 3 masteries for chinese (420/450 mastery level) since chinese will really really really(etc. etc.) suck at 140 cap...it can be implemented later at 140 cap or whenever so it keeps the game balanced. But chinese and euros might be balanced later, who knows.
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:43 am
by SuHuaChi
Kawaii wrote:ouch you guys. Everyone in ksro is chinese. There has to be something to that.
if i remeber well, euro pots delay on kSRO is 30 sec.
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:12 pm
by EngravedDemon
I just say...
LoL!
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:34 pm
by afiqk
all i gotta say is euros are on freaking steroids. lol
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:02 pm
by torinchibi
mKaaru wrote:Kawaii wrote:ouch you guys. Everyone in ksro is chinese. There has to be something to that.
everyone or lets be honest and just say that the majority of ksro are actually european :O why would they be chinese rofl you dumb piece of shit that does says random shit while actually knowing jack shit
euro chars:
need less sp to be fully farmed
<---Wrong 2 euro masteries fully farmed = 4 chinese masteries fully farmed to 80, since that's impossible, euros need more than chinesehave more skills
need less masteries to be a strong and fun build
have more powerfull attacks
have more diverse buffs
have overpowered party buffs
<---Wrong, bless spell = 60% mana shield pretty much, and it's shorter...level faster through party grinding
can still solo using vigors and choosing the right build
chinese:
need way more sp to a point that you people need to be n0-lifers to collect the sp necessary to become fully farmed at any cap past lvl80
<---Wronghave less skills
demand way too much masteries to a strong and fun build
<---Wrong, fire str, and cold/lightning int do just fine.are less powerfull, attacks sux (animations and more)
cheap buffs, both solo and for group use
<---Wrong, solo buffs are pretty good in comparisonlevel faster when you use softmod, tbot, isrobot, multiclienting and powerleveling from 1 to 71
<---Wrong, pretty sure euros can lvl faster while botting too, it's all about what you kill. Wait, this point is useless.yeah ksro is filled with chinese chars that way now that the 100cap is released :O think again dumb shit
And he is right, kSRO is filled with lvl 100 chinese. People use the more for jobbing since it's easier and requires less coordination. But they also have their euros that they use for everything else.
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:34 pm
by Burningwolf
mKaaru wrote:Kawaii wrote:ouch you guys. Everyone in ksro is chinese. There has to be something to that.
everyone or lets be honest and just say that the majority of ksro are actually european :O why would they be chinese rofl you dumb piece of shit that does says random shit while actually knowing jack shit
euro chars:
need less sp to be fully farmed
have more skills u sure about that?
need less masteries to be a strong and fun build
have more powerfull attacks
have more diverse buffs
have overpowered party buffs
level faster through party grinding
can still solo using vigors and choosing the right build
chinese:
need way more sp to a point that you people need to be n0-lifers to collect the sp necessary to become fully farmed at any cap past lvl80
have less skills
demand way too much masteries to a strong and fun build
are less powerfull, attacks sux (animations and more)
lol just look at bicheon combos, best animations in the game! cheap buffs, both solo and for group use
level faster when you use softmod, tbot, isrobot, multiclienting and powerleveling from 1 to 71
yeah ksro is filled with chinese chars that way now that the 100cap is released :O think again dumb shit
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:05 pm
by Vindicator
how to fix euro opness: wait for 90 cap and then they got nothing on chiense

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:14 pm
by fasd
Burningwolf wrote:mKaaru wrote:Kawaii wrote:ouch you guys. Everyone in ksro is chinese. There has to be something to that.
everyone or lets be honest and just say that the majority of ksro are actually european :O why would they be chinese rofl you dumb piece of shit that does says random shit while actually knowing jack shit
euro chars:
need less sp to be fully farmed
[Thats because they can only have 2 masteries and chinese have some 5] have more skills u sure about that?
need less masteries to be a strong and fun build
[u can have fun with only 2 masteries too >.>] have more powerfull attacks
[But die faster] have more diverse buffs
[You have 4 masteries of buffs and wep masteries give buffs too] have overpowered party buffs
[You call things like 20% phys absorv or int 37 overpowered?, then what is 50%mana shield?] level faster through party grinding
[Chinese do too] can still solo using vigors and choosing the right build
[Chinese own euro if they use vigor pots] chinese:
need way more sp to a point that you people need to be n0-lifers to collect the sp necessary to become fully farmed at any cap past lvl80
[Don't be so sure, that's onl because euros aren't choosing all books] have less skills
[You can choose 1 of 3 weps masteries, 3 imbue masteries and 1 extra at a total of 5(?) masteries. Want more?, euro can only have 2] demand way too much masteries to a strong and fun build
[Then just make a heuksal-fire for example, its as much fun as euro ones] are less powerfull, attacks sux (animations and more)
lol just look at bicheon combos, best animations in the game! cheap buffs, both solo and for group use
[You're just tired of chinese aren't ya?
] level faster when you use softmod, tbot, isrobot, multiclienting and powerleveling from 1 to 71
[That euros do too believe it lool] yeah ksro is filled with chinese chars that way now that the 100cap is released :O think again dumb shit
(heim?, last time i saw ksro they were plvling euros cause they want to pvp them >.>)
Blue notes by me :p
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:20 pm
by FliiipZ
Just wait for 90 cap , everything will be balance
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:26 pm
by Renton
FliiipZ wrote:Just wait for 90 cap , everything will be balance
Bless and skins get longer cool down? It isn't that I care they can 1hit me its just the fact that most euros slap on double bless and skins then bless AFTER that.
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:49 pm
by Naigasakis_Rebirth
mKaaru wrote:Kawaii wrote:ouch you guys. Everyone in ksro is chinese. There has to be something to that.
everyone or lets be honest and just say that the majority of ksro are actually european :O why would they be chinese rofl you dumb piece of shit that does says random shit while actually knowing jack shit
euro chars:
need less sp to be fully farmed
have more skills
need less masteries to be a strong and fun build
have more powerfull attacks
have more diverse buffs
have overpowered party buffs
level faster through party grinding
can still solo using vigors and choosing the right build
chinese:
need way more sp to a point that you people need to be n0-lifers to collect the sp necessary to become fully farmed at any cap past lvl80
have less skills
demand way too much masteries to a strong and fun build
are less powerfull, attacks sux (animations and more)
cheap buffs, both solo and for group use
level faster when you use softmod, tbot, isrobot, multiclienting and powerleveling from 1 to 71
yeah ksro is filled with chinese chars that way now that the 100cap is released :O think again dumb shit
You apparently havent played on kSRO...it is a majority of chinese characters lol.
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:53 pm
by -.-
ugh... comparing ksro and isro doesnt really work purely on fact that koreans play style are different lol
they dont mind the grind and like group pot wars...
isro has bots and pot war for 1 on 1 not group pot wars
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:05 pm
by EngravedDemon
Vindicator wrote:how to fix euro opness: wait for 90 cap and then they got nothing on chiense

Why? Do you somehow get some godly skills? LoL! It's actually quite the opposite... If you think euro buffs and skills are overpowered now, you wouldn't want to see them on higher levels, coz they just keep getting better...

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:15 pm
by EngravedDemon
fasd wrote:Burningwolf wrote:mKaaru wrote:Kawaii wrote:ouch you guys. Everyone in ksro is chinese. There has to be something to that.
everyone or lets be honest and just say that the majority of ksro are actually european :O why would they be chinese rofl you dumb piece of shit that does says random shit while actually knowing jack shit
euro chars:
need less sp to be fully farmed
[Thats because they can only have 2 masteries and chinese have some 5] have more skills u sure about that?
need less masteries to be a strong and fun build
[u can have fun with only 2 masteries too >.>] have more powerfull attacks
[But die faster] have more diverse buffs
[You have 4 masteries of buffs and wep masteries give buffs too] have overpowered party buffs
[You call things like 20% phys absorv or int 37 overpowered?, then what is 50%mana shield?] level faster through party grinding
[Chinese do too] can still solo using vigors and choosing the right build
[Chinese own euro if they use vigor pots] chinese:
need way more sp to a point that you people need to be n0-lifers to collect the sp necessary to become fully farmed at any cap past lvl80
[Don't be so sure, that's onl because euros aren't choosing all books] have less skills
[You can choose 1 of 3 weps masteries, 3 imbue masteries and 1 extra at a total of 5(?) masteries. Want more?, euro can only have 2] demand way too much masteries to a strong and fun build
[Then just make a heuksal-fire for example, its as much fun as euro ones] are less powerfull, attacks sux (animations and more)
lol just look at bicheon combos, best animations in the game! cheap buffs, both solo and for group use
[You're just tired of chinese aren't ya?
] level faster when you use softmod, tbot, isrobot, multiclienting and powerleveling from 1 to 71
[That euros do too believe it lool] yeah ksro is filled with chinese chars that way now that the 100cap is released :O think again dumb shit
(heim?, last time i saw ksro they were plvling euros cause they want to pvp them >.>)
Blue notes by me :p
Some people are just really stubborn, self-pitying how they've already wasted too much time/money on their chinese characters to even acknowledge the facts...
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:21 pm
by Pagz
tedtwilliger wrote:Love wrote:i am only worry after lvl 100 and for those who say quit the game __l__ i have lvl 80 chinease and 7x euro just saying would be more fair if chinease had 3 mastery and euro 2
THIS GAME ISNT CHINESE VERSUS EURO!I'm going to quote myself from a different thread
tedtwilliger wrote:1st of all you need to realize this game isnt euro vs chinese
If you say that cleric tanked a fair few glaviers, imagine a pure str chinese blader with the bless spell, all the european buffs such as defense, bless, intl str etc, having constant healing by a cleric, using snow shield at 50% and having a bard recover their hp constantly.
I'd like to see how many people it takes to kill that character. Even 5 rouges couldn't kill it.
And even if a rouge can 1 hit someone 10 levels below you, using fire combustion you can simply lion shout him to death.
Thats what you are missing. Euros and chinese should work together to make up for each others weaknesses.
tedtwilliger wrote:Some of that isn't too relevant to here, but u need to understand that there isnt an over powered state between races. Bloody hell. This game isn't about how many times a euro can kill a chinese. Put euros amazing team abilities and offense together with the chinese's great defense and status causing attack and you have yourself a winning team right there.
I swear the next person who makes a "euro it too strong" thread is going to get their fucking throat slit. Bloody hell.
exactly
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:30 pm
by Burningwolf
EngravedDemon wrote:fasd wrote:Burningwolf wrote:mKaaru wrote:Kawaii wrote:ouch you guys. Everyone in ksro is chinese. There has to be something to that.
everyone or lets be honest and just say that the majority of ksro are actually european :O why would they be chinese rofl you dumb piece of shit that does says random shit while actually knowing jack shit
euro chars:
need less sp to be fully farmed
[Thats because they can only have 2 masteries and chinese have some 5] have more skills u sure about that?
need less masteries to be a strong and fun build
[u can have fun with only 2 masteries too >.>] have more powerfull attacks
[But die faster] have more diverse buffs
[You have 4 masteries of buffs and wep masteries give buffs too] have overpowered party buffs
[You call things like 20% phys absorv or int 37 overpowered?, then what is 50%mana shield?] level faster through party grinding
[Chinese do too] can still solo using vigors and choosing the right build
[Chinese own euro if they use vigor pots] chinese:
need way more sp to a point that you people need to be n0-lifers to collect the sp necessary to become fully farmed at any cap past lvl80
[Don't be so sure, that's onl because euros aren't choosing all books] have less skills
[You can choose 1 of 3 weps masteries, 3 imbue masteries and 1 extra at a total of 5(?) masteries. Want more?, euro can only have 2] demand way too much masteries to a strong and fun build
[Then just make a heuksal-fire for example, its as much fun as euro ones] are less powerfull, attacks sux (animations and more)
lol just look at bicheon combos, best animations in the game! cheap buffs, both solo and for group use
[You're just tired of chinese aren't ya?
] level faster when you use softmod, tbot, isrobot, multiclienting and powerleveling from 1 to 71
[That euros do too believe it lool] yeah ksro is filled with chinese chars that way now that the 100cap is released :O think again dumb shit
(heim?, last time i saw ksro they were plvling euros cause they want to pvp them >.>)
Blue notes by me :p
Some people are just really stubborn, self-pitying how they've already wasted too much time/money on their chinese characters to even acknowledge the facts...
no no
i think u r to stubborn
to admit that euros are not as strong as they look
ive had a euro lv. 42 wiz, lv. 35 S/S, lv. 32 2H, ive had every euro build
and in the end
i still chose chinesse -__-
BLADER FTW!