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Reason why Joymax won't do a Rollback...
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:52 pm
by EngravedDemon
Doesn't the hack process require you to have someone's User ID?
So even if they fix the exploit in their website, it still comes down to people sharing their IDs (Which they strongly advise against or maybe even on the EULA or ToS). So technically, it's not their responsibility, no? Gotta chose better friends or people you can trust better I guess?
Also, how is it that much different from before when people are getting hacked 'coz the hacker gets a hold of their User ID and do a PW hack...? (Mostly Botters or People that pay to Power Level) Only maybe this time it's easier to take over the whole account itself.
Anyway, Sorry for those who have lost their accounts, but knowing most of them were Botters, Gold Buyers, etc... Makes me feel no remorse or whatsoever at all... Maybe none of them is so innocent after all, correct me if I'm wrong though...
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:55 pm
by n00bzZ
This time you could just put in a random account name and luckily get yourself a fresh level 80 char!
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:01 am
by vindicated01
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:10 am
by DarkJackal
This is joymax's responsibility >_>.
It doesn't matter if someone knows somoenes ID, ID isn't the secure part, thats what the password and email is for, no one should have to worry that if somoene knows their ID its possible with joymax.com to take the account.
Yea how diff is it? only somoene out there with 60b+ thats not gonna fk up a server or anything, just a few hundred high lvls get screwed but yea whats the diff, we don't care do we, doubt Joymax does.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:16 am
by jay0303
every one is not gold buy botter i know 1 person since i started he was lvl0 me to now he is lvl 80 he bought gold only a lot of silk 1k every 2 months
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:27 am
by tomiotar
The point that really make me angry on these post is that they asume that people that was hacked give their ID to someone else. I didnt give my ID to anyone and I got hacked and they hacked half tibet, if you go there you will se that south dw is completly empty of high level. Maybe if next time the people of rev6.com decide to hack your server you will realize of how awfull is the joymax security.
Rev6.com has killed Tibet server and Joymax doesnt care about it.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:42 am
by EngravedDemon
I was just simply pointing out that Joymax would most likely blame players for sharing their IDs than/before doing anything to reimburse the hacked accounts.
I'm all for a roll back, just that it's gonna be least likely to happen... 2 Weeks rollback would spell "DEATH" to Joymax. What do you suggest they do? What kind of event would accommodate both ends? Just exactly how many people got hacked, would it even be more than 5% of the SRO population? They won't care about the levels and with SRO Population, I'm referring to all active/inactive accounts on their database (It's Free2Play and IT'S GAYMAX for crying out loud!)
Granted, I bet a lot of people are actually happy about it... Why? -- You know why...
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:55 am
by Nyte
Yea .. my thoughts are exact with Engraved. I don't mind for a rollback but judging from the rate JM is approaching this issue .. i don't think a rollbacks going to happen.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:59 am
by Axeoo7
But what if some how a stupid company like JM decided by quoting someone on their forums it would display your ID?
Hmmm nahh that would never happen oh wait it already did.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:06 am
by bygeorge2512
4. Policy against Account Theft (Hacking)
1. Account theft/hacking is defined as illegal appropriation or destruction of computerizes data sent or received. The hacking/account theft usually occurs by negligent management by the user of his own account information.
2. The Operations Team will not offer services regarding account theft/hacking for the time being for the purpose of providing better service in the future.
Article 5 (Definition of Hacking)
1. Hacking shall mean acquisition and use of other's computerized information without permission. Hacking includes the following actions:
① Creating a new function that can harm the system
② Illegally penetrating into the information system without permission
Article 6 (Hacking Management)
1. Company shall delete or suspend forever the account owned by such hacker and/or temporarily restore all date in existence before hacking.
2. Hacker and the user of hacking program may be subject to civil or criminal liability in accordance with applicable statutes or regulations, and the Company shall not be liable.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:40 am
by Drunken
sigs,xfire,email on the forums give a BIG hint to others about your personal info.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:49 am
by Casey613
So if someone goes for the obvious, like kuwait, oblivion, killer, etc.? Is that still the player's fault? Dude you're full of shit.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:28 am
by EngravedDemon
Casey613 wrote:So if someone goes for the obvious, like kuwait, oblivion, killer, etc.? Is that still the player's fault? Dude you're full of shit.
So you think a hacker would waste 5 hours + on an account that he doesn't know? I doubt it... Also, most of those common and obvious ids were probably created when SRO started, most others would have numbers on them since those IDs already have existed...
Would be funny if someone tried to do that and get a lvl 16 account... LoL!
So really, it all comes down to the user, sharing his id or being keylogged...
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:33 am
by 0_t_s_l_r_K_1_T_n_A
you want an reason why jm wont rollback??
because there is no player got hack..we have million of fake hack thread here..
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:35 am
by Jex
and one dipshit with soem stupid name posting in every thread he can get his grubby hands on
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:41 am
by Fat_Smurf
tomiotar wrote:The point that really make me angry on these post is that they asume that people that was hacked give their ID to someone else. I didnt give my ID to anyone and I got hacked and they hacked half tibet, if you go there you will se that south dw is completly empty of high level. Maybe if next time the people of rev6.com decide to hack your server you will realize of how awfull is the joymax security.
Rev6.com has killed Tibet server and Joymax doesnt care about it.
rev6 didn't do it. it's ebaum's fault
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:09 am
by fortroy
So you think a hacker would waste 5 hours + on an account that he doesn't know? I doubt it... Also, most of those common and obvious ids were probably created when SRO started, most others would have numbers on them since those IDs already have existed...
actually that method takes only 5mins, if i was the hacker i would just need to change all the passes.i can get on those accounts at off peak hours...
As for giving out of ID's, the previous silkroadonline forums had a bug where u could see anyones ID so long as they posted on the site. With that old bug and this new bug(thats been fixxed) i dont see how it is the users fault.
oh and btw, there are private release that allow you to see user ID's. just like how Rev6 gets stats on your equipment.
Joymax farked up big time this time ^^
