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Intelligent Peoples, SHOW UP!
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:51 pm
by [SD]Kratos
fuuuuuuuuck it
You all know what is happening right? Well i find it hard to believe people can find exploits in JM website to hack other players, but cannot do something against JM.
Look we need to stop begging them because we know they wont change, what we need is hackers/white hats however u call them, but people who will pwn joymax and make them realize their security is SHIT.
Also someone good at laws and stuffs liek that who would be able to sue them, becuase this time it is THEIR fault if people are getting hacked, not ours.
I think we should stop being exploited xD the game is playing most of us, we paying silk
FOR NOTHIIIING throw money by window it will have same effect!
So either stop paying them or spam their forums but i think we should do something! It has to stop

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:52 pm
by Fat_Smurf
imma log on gm account and screw all server until everyone is lvl 1 and delete every gold/item in the game
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:53 pm
by VandalAres
give me about 3 years and ill do it for free! (law student here)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:53 pm
by Naigasakis_Rebirth
I think the consensus is...the intelligent people know that spamming the forums is retarded. So I guess that only leaves the former: Quit playing. But frankly...I enjoy dominatin nubs.
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:54 pm
by Trice
Fat_Smurf wrote:imma log on gm account and screw all server until everyone is lvl 1 and delete every gold/item in the game
then reverse all the mobs' power, so manygang and movia have niya strength damage, and niyas are like them. granted, the first part of what you said would make them do something (one would hope) but how good would it be? bots getting thoroughly raped when trying to grind.
but my pots are on 90%!
how can mangyang be doin 10k damage to me?

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:54 pm
by Trice
VandalAres wrote:give me about 3 years and ill do it for free! (law student here)

im doin a company law essay right now. wanna do it for me? i sure dont

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:55 pm
by Barotix
im trying to get a lawsuit going but my dads lawyer wont comply :/. and as for the hacking i suck at hacking

[nooby script kiddy] 2 lazy to get better. to lazy to learn C++, binary, C:/ meh i sux.
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:55 pm
by firefox6
if there is a real hacker here.. log in as gm and mess it all up so they will fix the problems..
i am about 99% that gm's have a different client then us.. but hell worth a try
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:55 pm
by [SD]Kratos
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:I think the consensus is...the intelligent people know that spamming the forums is retarded. So I guess that only leaves the former: Quit playing. But frankly...I enjoy dominatin nubs.
JM is retarded. IF spamming their forums is the only way to be heard then why not?
Not spamming with random letters, spamming it with the same message like about security and all their mess
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:00 pm
by Trice
firefox6 wrote:if there is a real hacker here.. log in as gm and mess it all up so they will fix the problems..
i am about 99% that gm's have a different client then us.. but hell worth a try
youd have to mess up every server, because you just know if you only do one theyll only fix the events of that one, rather than justice for all. stupid lazy GMs
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:02 pm
by [SD]Kratos
Trice wrote:firefox6 wrote:if there is a real hacker here.. log in as gm and mess it all up so they will fix the problems..
i am about 99% that gm's have a different client then us.. but hell worth a try
youd have to mess up every server, because you just know if you only do one theyll only fix the events of that one, rather than justice for all. stupid lazy GMs
MEh it already happened remember roc and all we just need motivation and make a group effort
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:27 pm
by glavie
The only way to get joymax to fix the many problems is to make it harder for them to NOT FIX the problems.
Possibe ways to do that?
Lawsuit: not sure how easy that is with international law
Lower their profit: boycott will most likely not be effective without mass participation.
Any other ways to lower profit??
Embarrass them: REV6 has been most effective at that, but obviously not effective enough.
So...........anyone have any ideas?
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:34 pm
by Doppleganger
Listen to you guys, your talking about hacking the website and hacking a GM's account so that you will force joymax into some kind of action. What you are instigating is WRONG Plain and simple. Kratos, you have been here a very long time and it is surprising to me that you would make a topic like this.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:07 am
by fasd
You know what real hackers were?, they were the ones who hacked gm's account and summoned rok from simply nothing ^^, now hacking ppl to stole their goods?, grow up -.-"
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:13 am
by vindicated01
you guys live in US why dont you all go to the JM office cali and protest there..
thats the only way..
Re: Intelligent Peoples, SHOW UP!
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:41 am
by PR0METHEUS
[SD]Kratos wrote:Look we need to stop begging them because we know they wont change, what we need is hackers/white hats however u call them, but people who will pwn joymax and make them realize their security is SHIT.
Yeah... purposely hacking into their servers, especially on a large scale, will do nothing except make Joymax send their lawyers after you. Somehow I doubt any white hats would do this. Ever hear of computer ethics?
Yes, us white hats have the capability, but we don't use it to "pwn joymax and make them realize their security is SHIT"....
A better white hat approach would be to send business proposals, or similar to offer computer security services, from a well established IT security firm, to Joymax to assist them in doing a comprehensive security assessment of their systems. International law I'm sure is a bit complex. I'm not sure how it would work having, say, a US security company do vulnerability assessments on a Korean company...
"pwning them" is not the intelligent answer (as your title suggests).
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:49 am
by Zing
Hacking them won't solve anything. Only more uproar and more negativity.
Two wrongs do not make a right.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:10 am
by Rookie
Why not blame rev6 really they show how to hack other, and really can be someone from there who hack and have that knowledge who did it. But sure the must do something about it now JOYMAX. Not the rollback but secure the accounds little more now.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:35 am
by Drunken
its just a game, calm down. Its your fault for paying "REAL MONEY" to play a free mmorpg. Seriously, hacking into JM? You should be ashamed really. Hacking into their stuff might make them shut down sro and still run the other FREE mmorpgs that they have.
And to whoever said that the US people should protest, Get off your lazy ass and do it yourself. Dont feel like traveling? Then be quite. Plain and simple
i am with Doppleganger all the way with this. This is an idiotic topic.
Too pissed at JM? Quit sro and play another mmorpg, there are tons of free ones out there. Dont wanna quit? then be quite and wait for them to fix it. It they dont, move on. Its not the end of the world here.
Besides if alot of people stop playing sro, that might get their attention. Or it might just lead the the death of sro.
Just think before you talk here. Really get your thoughts together here.
(MY OPINION!!!!)
~my 2 cents worth~
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:39 am
by FireJammerXR
things would be so much better if this never happened.
sure the 2% of people who knew this trick would use it, buts its better than 90% of people hacking other people.
you may say this will show joymax how shitty their security, what if this is the only big flaw?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:52 am
by Rookie
FireJammerXR wrote:what if this is the only big flaw?
never knows ,Someone can try to only make ppl hysteria about it and laughs ate it .
Re: Intelligent Peoples, SHOW UP!
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:36 am
by imp3r10
[SD]Kratos wrote:I think we should stop being exploited xD the game is playing most of us, we paying silk FOR NOTHIIIING throw money by window it will have same effect!
your not paying for nothign
your paying for entertainment value and its done its job, stop bitching
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:43 am
by buster5995
*hacks into there website, command: erase all > Command: replace with this"
YOUR FUC.KED JOYMAX
would that be possible?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:10 am
by Pham
dont worry kratos, il be sure to spam sro,net forums everyday for all thje ppl that lost ther acc.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:47 am
by XemnasXD
im going to write to my congressman

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:18 am
by torinchibi
...I would hack myself a GM account, and walk around with my banhammer handy, and a macro on my #1 key that types "banned for botting" after a name. Nothing works better than pissed off legits with a thirst for botter blood.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:48 am
by the_wicked
buster5995 wrote:*hacks into there website, command: erase all > Command: replace with this"
YOUR FUC.KED JOYMAX
would that be possible?
XD
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:06 am
by Silver0
Anyone with any decency or intelligence would move on and realize it was just a lost
you lose sometimes and other times you come on top
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:32 am
by VandalAres
vindicated01 wrote:you guys live in US why dont you all go to the JM office cali and protest there..
thats the only way..
i live about 1 hour away from joymax...
VandalAres wrote:
give me about 3 years and ill do it for free! (law student here) Very Happy
im doin a company law essay right now. wanna do it for me? i sure dont
hahaha im doing my own essay on a fictional case

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:14 am
by 4chan
Fat_Smurf wrote:imma log on gm account and screw all server until everyone is lvl 1 and delete every gold/item in the game
As mean as it sounds, I sorta agree...
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