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lucky powder vs. lucky blue.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:27 pm
by ArchYourFace
Is there any difference between lucky powder and the lucky attributed by a lucky stone. I was always under the impression they are the same, but I have seen ppl talking about them like they are different. So im confused.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:31 pm
by ShadowSpell
Lucky power gives you additional luck when using elixirs, you may get away with making a +1 without it but anything more is foolish, lucky stones add even more luck on top of the luck powder but are extremely expensive, the only way to get lucky stones are by using destroyer rondo and breaking down equipement drops into element and the chances of getting a lucky stone when doing that are still very rare.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:35 pm
by XCaosX
soulreapr wrote:Lucky power gives you additional luck when using elixirs, you may get away with making a +1 without it but anything more is foolish, lucky stones add even more luck on top of the luck powder but are extremely expensive, the only way to get lucky stones are by using destroyer rondo and breaking down equipement drops into element and the chances of getting a lucky stone when doing that are still very rare.
+1...i agree*_*

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:36 pm
by LockStar.
Both lucky powder and the lucky attribute increase the chance of a successful fuse.

Lets say that FOR EXAMPLE lucky powder increases chance of fuse with 15% and lucky attribute with another 15%.

EDIT: Damn someone beat me to it. (damn msn xD)

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:54 pm
by Casey613
Only by destroying weapons you get lucky stones, not any item

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:55 pm
by ArchYourFace
so the lucky attribute will go down even with the use of lucky powder? ok kewl.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:59 pm
by torch69
Casey613 wrote:Only by destroying weapons you get lucky stones, not any item


this true?

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:04 pm
by Valamathras
wrong I bought a 73 garm chest with 2 blues last night 999k
got 5% fog stone and a luck stone ^^
stalled em 900k and 6.5m respectivly as well as the elements from it
KACHING profit FTW

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:12 pm
by Aby
They both increase your luck when upgrading. The lucky attribute is simply lucky powder in tablet form, with a little bit of assimilation probability sprinkled on-top. Their effect is supposedly the "same," but I think because of the luck stone's sheer rarity, it has a greater influence on the luck of a weapon.

id est

If a weapon's individual luck variable gives it a 35% chance of success to a given level; say level 5. A lucky powder could add another 20% chance of success, making the weapon's total chance to succeed 11/22, or 55%. Now why would an item you can purchase from a store be of the exact same worth as one you have to destroy alright weapons of the highest deg in the game? For this example we'll say it adds a final 30% chance of success, making your weapon's original value, 35, go up to 85, an incredible score; we all know SRO for it's notorious lack of percentage signs.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:14 pm
by Nader
canu get luck stones from destroying any degree items?

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:17 pm
by ShadowSpell
yes if you use lucky power the attribute of lucky will still go down, last night I had a lvl 73 robe shoulders that I was pimping with lucky 4 on them, and I was making it a +4 and on 3 of the 4 elixirs I put on it with lucky powder the lucky attribute went down also, it usually will go down but not every time.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:37 pm
by MrH
torch69 wrote:
Casey613 wrote:Only by destroying weapons you get lucky stones, not any item


this true?


It's true.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:04 pm
by Valamathras
ffs I JUST posted that I got a luck stone from a chest. Wepaons have the best chances for giving any stones but arnt the only source for luck stones. 72 white weapons can give stones easily. If they have blues they give tons. Armor equips tend to require blues on em to give stones, white armor has never given me stones.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:40 pm
by ShadowSpell
not saying I told you so, but I told you so

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:47 pm
by Nader
can any degree give u luck stones?

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:55 pm
by Silver0
degree 6/7/8 and there not rare

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:44 pm
by larvs
MrH wrote:
torch69 wrote:
Casey613 wrote:Only by destroying weapons you get lucky stones, not any item


this true?


It's true.


? i destroyed a lvl 72 euro eing with just two blues on it and it gave me a lucky stone. i've gotten lucky stones from a lot of items to date.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:52 pm
by the_wicked
Casey613 wrote:Only by destroying weapons you get lucky stones, not any item


not true....i got one from a lvl 75 hood once @_@

just rare from items, more common from weps :P

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:18 pm
by glavie
Luck on an item is not like a lucky powder.

When you have an item it has a hidden %chance of success. You can then add a lucky powder when trying to + that item to increase the chance of success.

As we all know if you fail it will drop all the way to +0 (or +4 with astral) while using up the lucky powder and elixir.

If an item has a lucky blue stat on it you still need to use a lucky powder.

A lucky stat is like a second roll of the dice. If you hit fuse and it calculates a success then no blue stat lucky is used up.
If you hit fuse and it calculates a fail, then it will use a lucky to re-roll the dice. If it then succeeds or fails the lucky blue will be reduced by one.

Ex. I had a pair of pants +0 with lucky 1 already on them. I was just going to go for +3. I grabbed 3 elixirs and 3 lucky powders. It went: +1>+2>+3. The lucky1 was still there. This meant that the hidden luck stat on these pants was really good so I went for +4 and it was a success. It did use the lucky though. If the lucky hadn't have been there it would have failed.

If an item has lucky on it and cant get to +3 on the first try don't ever expect it to get to +4.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:31 pm
by Simplifique
You can get luck stones from rondoing any item (jewelry, armor, weapons) and from any degree.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:35 pm
by The Phenomenon Nay
well you can kno if the thing your gonna destroy will giv ya lucky stone prolly 90% of times it will work cuz it gives random stones, i once got 6 lucky 8ths in 1 day from destrooyin 64+3 spear ;P

take a look
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it says 6 slots needed suggests that u will get 4 types of elemtns and 2 random luckys, but if it says 4 slots needed it means youll only get elemnts

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:52 pm
by StealMySoda
MrH wrote:
torch69 wrote:
Casey613 wrote:Only by destroying weapons you get lucky stones, not any item


this true?


It's true.

I've had a lucky stone from a chest, so...NO, its not true.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:00 pm
by imp3r10
MrH wrote:
torch69 wrote:
Casey613 wrote:Only by destroying weapons you get lucky stones, not any item


this true?


It's true.




no its not


ive gotten one from a ring and clothes with only 1 blue

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:11 pm
by PrincessChei2x
Casey613 wrote:Only by destroying weapons you get lucky stones, not any item


I strongly disagree. Do your homework ^^

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:15 pm
by PrincessChei2x
The Phenomenon Nay wrote:well you can kno if the thing your gonna destroy will giv ya lucky stone prolly 90% of times it will work cuz it gives random stones, i once got 6 lucky 8ths in 1 day from destrooyin 64+3 spear ;P

take a look
Image

it says 6 slots needed suggests that u will get 4 types of elemtns and 2 random luckys, but if it says 4 slots needed it means youll only get elemnts



even if it says you need like 7 slots but still its not acurate.

4 for the elements you get (2 1level lower and 2 @ same level) +3 for the "other" items=7. but sometimes it gives you only 1 green+1pink or 2 green and 1 pink but never 2 pink @ the same time but you can get 3 green @ the same time ^^.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:38 am
by PrincessBoA
Casey613 wrote:Only by destroying weapons you get lucky stones, not any item


I've got it from weapons, chest, rings and etc.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:48 am
by IZerkNoobz
Casey613 wrote:Only by destroying weapons you get lucky stones, not any item


not true, you can get them from destroying any item

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:49 pm
by Dark520
If you have lucky 2 or more, does anyone know if you can use more than one at once? For example, someone suggested that it calculates it twice, if you had lucky 2, could you calculate it three times?

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:03 pm
by glavie
Dark520 wrote:If you have lucky 2 or more, does anyone know if you can use more than one at once? For example, someone suggested that it calculates it twice, if you had lucky 2, could you calculate it three times?


No, it only uses 1 lucky per enchantment.