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How can Joymax still pride themselves after...

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:22 am
by satman83
How can Joymax still pride themselves after...these following mistakes.
No not botting or spamming, which are big problems in themselves.
Or how can they still operate with the self-delusional belief that they know what
there doing after all these huge mistakes.

1= on the old forum by quoting someone you could obtain that persons
user name, and from then on "hack" that person account...JM said this was
the users fault and took no responsibility for this.

2= JM recently have had to remove large sections of their own website due
to HUGE security risks (i.e) users still able to gain other users information
instead of solving this problem JM do what they have done 3 times before. That
is to wipe/lock sections of the forum, not a good sign when they cannot even
maintain their own website

3= Around 1 1/2 years ago some people hacked the JM GM's accounts and
created what can only be called complete mayhem on the servers, spawning
low lvl monsters around Hotan, high lvl around Jangan and random unique
spawning were the tip of the ice berg in what was 2 weeks of chaos.

4= JM own forums were hacked...this time with a poster posting a official
announcement on the main silkroad website criticizing JM for not caring for
its customers...this turned JM into a laughing stock as they once again
proved that they could not ever stop their own systems being hacked yet
expect us to have faith in them.

5= JM decided to show the users that GM's did in fact exist by having them
walk around the in game world....unfortunately for the GM's almost every
user who was within range tried to kill their character...a foolish act because
at lvl100 (at the time) the GM's could not be killed. Now the GM's after being
attacked for one week went back to...well where ever they are, but in a petty
turn they banned all those who tried to kill them.

So after these mistakes how can JM still pride themsevles on this game
when its been nothing but disaster after disaster?

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:26 am
by Deacon
Good points..

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:27 am
by TOloseGT
itemmall

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:31 am
by Driver
Around 1 1/2 years ago some people hacked the JM GM's accounts and
created what can only be called complete mayhem on the servers, spawning
low lvl monsters around Hotan, high lvl around Jangan and random unique
spawning were the tip of the ice berg in what was 2 weeks of chaos.


This happened? Damned and I still didn't play the game that time... nobody have a video or something that show this?

The best that I remember was the godly unique_kill_die_spawn_rigth_away, some time ago :roll:

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:34 am
by Foloroth
When was it that someone summoned Rok (level 100 unique) ?
I think it was on Xian.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:51 am
by borat2
They made a great game so why can`t they be proud of it?
Yes there are **** ups but no one can be perfect and in my opinion any free to play game out there has its status due to the community playing it

blame us for creating these kind of problems

any system is there to be abused some people will always find a way to hack/crack things, look at world of warcraft (since that is the major game out there) still bots available they do get banned if caught but that is not a thing you can expect from a small company like Joymax.

Consider Joymax as a company that still has to learn a lot, the management of Joymax is simply bad and the way they sometimes deal with problems is terrible, they probably never imagined when they created Silkroad that it will end up in being this huge they got overwhelmed and could not handle it.

They are learning maybe the hard way but they are.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:51 am
by Doppleganger
As much as i hate you, i liked the points you made.

4= JM own forums were hacked...this time with a poster posting a official
announcement on the main silkroad website criticizing JM for not caring for
its customers...this turned JM into a laughing stock as they once again
proved that they could not ever stop their own systems being hacked yet
expect us to have faith in them.

ah i remember that.That was a pretty scary day.
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:52 am
by Casey613
I'm sorry but they don't give a crap, think of them as nomadic people, they will try to get all the juice out of SRO and then they'll just abandon it, like they did with DE before.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:52 am
by satman83
Foloroth wrote:When was it that someone summoned Rok (level 100 unique) ?
I think it was on Xian.


no...it was way back during the lvl70 cap...loads of complete mayhem...people
being blocked, unblocked server inspections all the time and insane spawning
it was on all the servers.

here are some SS of it


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giants always spawned

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At the time had no idea what they were....so many people died.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:52 am
by Crumpets
borat2 wrote:They made a great game so why can`t they be proud of it?
Yes there are **** ups but no one can be perfect and in my opinion any free to play game out there has its status due to the community playing it

blame us for creating these kind of problems

any system is there to be abused some people will always find a way to hack/crack things, look at world of warcraft (since that is the major game out there) still bots available they do get banned if caught but that is not a thing you can expect from a small company like Joymax.

Consider Joymax as a company that still has to learn a lot, the management of Joymax is simply bad and the way they sometimes deal with problems is terrible, they probably never imagined when they created Silkroad that it will end up in being this huge they got overwhelmed and could not handle it.

They are learning maybe the hard way but they are.


I don't think I have ever +1'd ... but this deserves one.

+ freaking 1.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:13 pm
by TOloseGT
lol, they never imagined sro to be this huge? so that's why they wanted to make three races huh? they definitely did not plan for such a popular game, oh of course not.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:18 pm
by Firemouse
TOloseGT wrote:lol, they never imagined sro to be this huge? so that's why they wanted to make three races huh? they definitely did not plan for such a popular game, oh of course not.


STFU

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:19 pm
by TOloseGT
wow, u turn me on. marry me?

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:20 pm
by borat2
TOloseGT wrote:lol, they never imagined sro to be this huge? so that's why they wanted to make three races huh? they definitely did not plan for such a popular game, oh of course not.

sorry for my bad english but that is what i wanted to say. was not talking about the game size but the community playing it.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:20 pm
by Firemouse
TOloseGT wrote:wow, u turn me on. marry me?


:) k

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:22 pm
by TOloseGT
Firemouse wrote:
TOloseGT wrote:wow, u turn me on. marry me?


:) k
*looks at post count* woops, gotta do better than that.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:23 pm
by Firemouse
TOloseGT wrote:
Firemouse wrote:
TOloseGT wrote:wow, u turn me on. marry me?


:) k
*looks at post count* woops, gotta do better than that.


honestly I don't understand what you mean by that, anyways I apologize, after going through all those bot threads then seeing another rude comment I think I temporarily lost my mind

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:31 pm
by TOloseGT
so i was collateral dmg? i thought i was special :cry:

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:19 pm
by MrFudge
you guys are so Farking picky.

this is my first mmo, probably one of the only two video games i play right now along with super smash bros melee [im 19...so dont think wah hes too old to play or wah hes too young.] ..im not a huge gamer

but just play the damn game and if you dont like it leave..

nothings stopping you. :?

and it sounds like joymax's fuck-ups gives a bit of history to the game, it at least makes it a little interesting.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:30 pm
by Luoma
the only thing i hate is the massive amount of bots, the rest i dont care so much about >.^

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:36 pm
by Geobot
So after these mistakes how can JM still pride themsevles on this game
when its been nothing but disaster after disaster?


while there have been obvious problems, maybe they can pride themselves because people ARE still playing, and that in itself is a major accomplishment. obviously you don't realize the vast number of games that never even get out of beta testing because of dysfunction and lack of user interest.


i wouldn't call a wildly popular global game "nothing but disaster after disaster", but that's just me.

joymax has created a HUGELY popular game, and has kept it running for a couple years. what have you done that measures up, and how can you say they don't deserve to have some bit of pride about the whole thing?

of course, if you happen to be the CEO of Blizzard, disregard this completely, because you have an educated opinion. but otherwise....

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:36 pm
by heroo
Hey ego's, don't forget if JM didn't make this game, we wouldn't have SRO at all and neither these forums.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:24 pm
by nightbloom
TOloseGT wrote:so i was collateral dmg? i thought i was special :cry:


lol You are. Im tempted to stfu you myself, just to elicit a marriage proposal.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:44 pm
by StarPrincess
haha i got so happy that day when that text came up on sro homepage. its so pwn :)))))

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:14 pm
by satman83
Geobot wrote:
So after these mistakes how can JM still pride themsevles on this game
when its been nothing but disaster after disaster?


while there have been obvious problems, maybe they can pride themselves because people ARE still playing, and that in itself is a major accomplishment. obviously you don't realize the vast number of games that never even get out of beta testing because of dysfunction and lack of user interest.


i wouldn't call a wildly popular global game "nothing but disaster after disaster", but that's just me.

joymax has created a HUGELY popular game, and has kept it running for a couple years. what have you done that measures up, and how can you say they don't deserve to have some bit of pride about the whole thing?

of course, if you happen to be the CEO of Blizzard, disregard this completely, because you have an educated opinion. but otherwise....


Well JM did not create a hughly popular game...and the only reason that this
game has lasted these 3 years now (international version) is due to new users
and ban of Vietnam (like the turks but 100 time worse) from the international
game.
I mean explain why people leave? its a bad game, but as people leave its
replaced by new users who have no idea how bad it is and also keep in
mind that more then 60% of all users are bots anyway.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:47 pm
by ShadowSpell
Hey StarPrincess, funny how many people you know from your own server when they post their name, I noticed about 10 people in the last 2 days from Alps, lol, so do you still hate me?

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:12 pm
by Foloroth
satman83 wrote:
Geobot wrote:
So after these mistakes how can JM still pride themsevles on this game
when its been nothing but disaster after disaster?


while there have been obvious problems, maybe they can pride themselves because people ARE still playing, and that in itself is a major accomplishment. obviously you don't realize the vast number of games that never even get out of beta testing because of dysfunction and lack of user interest.


i wouldn't call a wildly popular global game "nothing but disaster after disaster", but that's just me.

joymax has created a HUGELY popular game, and has kept it running for a couple years. what have you done that measures up, and how can you say they don't deserve to have some bit of pride about the whole thing?

of course, if you happen to be the CEO of Blizzard, disregard this completely, because you have an educated opinion. but otherwise....


Well JM did not create a hughly popular game...and the only reason that this
game has lasted these 3 years now (international version) is due to new users
and ban of Vietnam (like the turks but 100 time worse) from the international
game.
I mean explain why people leave? its a bad game, but as people leave its
replaced by new users who have no idea how bad it is and also keep in
mind that more then 60% of all users are bots anyway.


How bad were the Viets ? I remember A LOT of them being on the servers but I don't remember how they acted..
Any chance of Turk-SRO ... ?

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:16 pm
by Aby
Very insightful

TOloseGT wrote:itemmall


You too.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:05 pm
by satman83
what? :?

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:45 pm
by VandalAres
satman83 wrote:
Foloroth wrote:When was it that someone summoned Rok (level 100 unique) ?
I think it was on Xian.


no...it was way back during the lvl70 cap...loads of complete mayhem...people
being blocked, unblocked server inspections all the time and insane spawning
it was on all the servers.

here are some SS of it


Image
giants always spawned

Image
At the time had no idea what they were....so many people died.


LMFAO!