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So i am powerleveling a friend at Sonars atm when i have some free time. Been at sonars since he was lvl 41 and now he is 46. He is going 0 gap because he wants to farm at cap. Anyways, he noticed that he was getting more exp/sp from normal/pt mobs when he was lvl 41 (16 lvl difference), than he is getting now at lvl 46 (11 lvl difference).

lvl 41 - getting 0.03% from normal mobs and 0.21% from party mobs
lvl 46 - getting 0.02% from normal mobs and 0.09% from party ones

As i've read on the forums, people say 11 lvl difference player - mob gives the max exp/sp possible, and if higher u have an exp penalty. I am confused, can anyone explain?

I think its not the % but the actual Experience points

DotCom wrote:So i am powerleveling a friend at Sonars atm when i have some free time. Been at sonars since he was lvl 41 and now he is 46. He is going 0 gap because he wants to farm at cap. Anyways, he noticed that he was getting more exp/sp from normal/pt mobs when he was lvl 41 (16 lvl difference), than he is getting now at lvl 46 (11 lvl difference).

lvl 41 - getting 0.03% from normal mobs and 0.21% from party mobs
lvl 46 - getting 0.02% from normal mobs and 0.09% from party ones

As i've read on the forums, people say 11 lvl difference player - mob gives the max exp/sp possible, and if higher u have an exp penalty. I am confused, can anyone explain?

Well ... I'm getting powerleveled at mages now ... getting 4k exp per normal mob ... they are like lv.78 and I'm 64 ... and when I was getting leveled at snipers (lv.64-65) I got less exp , round 3k .... O.o

[FF]Cresta wrote:I think its not the % but the actual Experience points

Well of course i should get more exp points from higher mobs (imagine yarkan) but wasnt there suposed to be a penalty after 11 lvl diference?

He is higher lvl now, so will get less xp/sxp per kill than he did @ 41. Even though he doesn't have penalty at L46 for the mobs like he did at L41, the mobs are closer to his level and will give him less xp/sxp.

yeha i think cap is higher like 15 or 16 difference

justaskphil wrote:He is higher lvl now, so will get less xp/sxp per kill than he did @ 41. Even though he doesn't have penalty at L46 for the mobs like he did at L41, the mobs are closer to his level and will give him less xp/sxp.

So does it mean it would be faster to go powerlvl him at snipers i.e instead of sonars?

well i dont get any good exp at all beeing powerlvled in takla, almost nothing.

im lvl 46

DotCom wrote:

justaskphil wrote:He is higher lvl now, so will get less xp/sxp per kill than he did @ 41. Even though he doesn't have penalty at L46 for the mobs like he did at L41, the mobs are closer to his level and will give him less xp/sxp.

So does it mean it would be faster to go powerlvl him at snipers i.e instead of sonars?

i'd really like a good straight guide on plevleling. my guildmate is 48 we're at sonars 57. he gains 0.02% ormal mob. he has a 6 mastery gap. i tried onte time to go to the yetis lvl 59-60 and he started getting 0.03% so i said wtf, let's go to snipers. on our way there, the fishes gave him 0.02%, worms gave him 0.02% and snipers, gave him 0.01%

but what the hey, at his level, i can get me 0.02% on a 4 gap. got pissed a bit at the situation.

not even gonna read, guild mate expiremented w/ the different lvl gaps, 9 lvls in b/t is the best way to go, try it.

I've always had best success with a 10lvl gap when getting powerlvld on my euro character.

The point is that there is no penalty on the XP if the difference between highest and lowest level on the party is 20. For that reason when the char that is being powerleveled get to lvl60 he will get more xp from niya generals than from niya guards.

facts:

Me lvl 46
Pwrlvler lv 64

Penon fighter (54) : 6,000 xp
Sonar (57): 15,000

Me lvl 43
Pwrlvler 64

Penon Fighter (54): 12,000 xp
Sonar (57): dont know, 12 k was enough for me

So I level 3 levels and I lose 6,000 xp on every pt mob. 11 lvls really is the best difference. I once tried to go on mobs 10 lvls higher and they only gave me 60% of what I got on mobs 11 lvsl higher

lvl 41 - getting 0.03% from normal mobs and 0.21% from party mobs
lvl 46 - getting 0.02% from normal mobs and 0.09% from party ones

That's normal. It's just like saying u got 20% exp per kill at lvl 1 and and 16% exp per kill at lvl 2 by hunting same mob.

As i've read on the forums, people say 11 lvl difference player - mob gives the max exp/sp possible, and if higher u have an exp penalty. I am confused, can anyone explain?

It's 10 lvl difference ie if u are lvl 10, someone pwrlvl u at mob lvl 20 will give the max exp.
Higher than 10, u receive penalty
Lower than your lvl, u also receive penalty.

So... the max exp happens when 8 players same lvl (each one give 2.5% exp bonus) pwrlvl each other and hunt mob higher 10 lvl.

From my experience in powerlvling, its 11 lvls, at 12 its gets a little less, 10 also.

Hey Dari (lol)

20 is what you need

12 or less

Im lvl 36 Rogue getting plvlved at Sonars atm. its doing fine for me. Almost lvled as a matter of fact.

only thing you really need to remember is that better spawn rate = better xp. That, and if you can get someone 10 lvls or so lower than the char being plvled, they will get double the xp on the party mobs.

1) Were there more ppl in the party when he was 46?
2) Very true you should go to Karra's now since your 46. WAY more exp. You will need to move out of Karra's near 58, Then move Guards, then snipers, then rotate to Mages/Shaman.
3)It's around 15-17 levels difference, not 11. Used to be, not anymore.

i think the reason is that although you get more exp at lvl46 (because of the 11 lvl gap), it takes wayyyyy more exp in total to lvl up. so every kill accounts for less % in the total exp.

I just tested adding a lvl 25 while pling alvl 37 on mujigis, and the pt mob exp went form 3k to 7k ;d.

NuclearSilo wrote:

lvl 41 - getting 0.03% from normal mobs and 0.21% from party mobs
lvl 46 - getting 0.02% from normal mobs and 0.09% from party ones

That's normal. It's just like saying u got 20% exp per kill at lvl 1 and and 16% exp per kill at lvl 2 by hunting same mob.

As i've read on the forums, people say 11 lvl difference player - mob gives the max exp/sp possible, and if higher u have an exp penalty. I am confused, can anyone explain?

It's 10 lvl difference ie if u are lvl 10, someone pwrlvl u at mob lvl 20 will give the max exp.
Higher than 10, u receive penalty
Lower than your lvl, u also receive penalty.

So... the max exp happens when 8 players same lvl (each one give 2.5% exp bonus) pwrlvl each other and hunt mob higher 10 lvl.

Wholy crap. A gazillion posts on this subject and everyone gave half true answers. Then comes NuclearSilo and all is good in the world. I have been going crazy trying to figure this out and everything you say makes sense. Does that 2.5% only come into play on party mobs or all mobs?


Tomiotar. Even if the person powerlvling is within 20 lvls there is still a reduction of XP on mobs higher than 10. (at least regular mobs, didn't test on party)

The difference is 11 levels.

Also i've noticed that when im p-lvling and adding 3 or more newbies in my party, the exp/sp from a pt mob doubles. This sometimes happens with only 2. Every other party member i add after that gives me less exp/sp.

So it's not like every pt member gives me 2.5%, there is a certain threshold where the exp doubles from PT mobs only, the exp from regular mobs only goes less when i add more party members

justaskphil wrote:He is higher lvl now, so will get less xp/sxp per kill than he did @ 41. Even though he doesn't have penalty at L46 for the mobs like he did at L41, the mobs are closer to his level and will give him less xp/sxp.

BuLLeTz wrote:12 or less

lol noob

IZerkNoobz wrote:20 is what you need

lol bigger noob

party mob exp is calculated based upon the levels of the players within the party. i dont know the exact formula but from experience, when i was in a pt penon party with 2 low lvls being plvled, party mob exp was high, but when they left the party mob exp decreased by 2. so..party mob exp depends on the levels but dont really know the formula, probably if avg party lvl is 11 lvls below the mob party mob exp will be at its greatest. iono

Hellraider wrote:The difference is 11 levels.

Also i've noticed that when im p-lvling and adding 3 or more newbies in my party, the exp/sp from a pt mob doubles. This sometimes happens with only 2. Every other party member i add after that gives me less exp/sp.

So it's not like every pt member gives me 2.5%, there is a certain threshold where the exp doubles from PT mobs only, the exp from regular mobs only goes less when i add more party members

10LVL difference is ideal for mob to the person being plvled. 11lvls will be when the penalty kicks in.

The 2.5% was referring to everyone in the party being the same lvl. Not in a powerlvl situation. I am also guessing that the 2.5% refers to regular mobs only, though I am not sure.

I've always heard the person you are power leveling will get the most exp per kill at mobs 11 levels higher than him. So if he's lvl 34, take him out to the lvl 45 ultra blood flowers outside Hotan. After 11 levels, exp per kill decreases.

That's my understanding of it anyway.

Off topic to the main question, but related story:

The other day, I was in an 8-man party at the mujigis. We were all in the range of lvl 45 - 53. Some lvl 64 glavier came by and joined our party. I thought cool he can help us....

He didn't do much killing, then left the party. His lvl 34 friend came tracing him on a horse, and the 64 glavier kept PMing me telling me to take my party elsewhere or he'll KS because he's plvling his friend. He kept trying to KS our pt giants, but when he tried, I just repeatedly knocked it down and double stabbed it. True, the rest of my party couldn't get in any hits, but I didn't want him getting any exp for it either. My party would still get exp from it.

He only spoke German, I don't, but I used a translator website to basically tell him in German "Do you even understand how power leveling works?" After that, he just shut up and leveled his friend for about 10 minutes a distance away from us.

And people wonder why a lot of us don't like power leveling.....