WIZARD Meteor = CLERIC Offering??

[TemJiN]

i was told that a Wiz using Life force with Meteor has almost the same mag attack/damage as a Clerics Offering........is this true

lets say both at lvl 80 farmed.

[torinchibi]

i was told that a Wiz using Life force with Meteor has almost the same mag attack/damage as a Clerics Offering........is this true

I would say they are pretty close.

Here are some things to consider.

Offering has ...for the sake of easy calculation, 1k% m. atk. They both have the same range of attack so we'll just cancel that out. For sake of calculations, Meteor Has 500% m. atk. In reality Meteor has close to half of the atk of Offering normally.

Now 25% m. atk from life control, + 500+ m atk at 78, last lvl of Life control. Here is the deal. 500m. atk is a fixed value, but the 25% changes based on your own m.atk, so in the end it is like adding 25% of the attack of the skill, so 25% of 500 is 125% (this would assume that the % in the skill does dmg based on your m.atk not just the skill's attack range values). If the assumption is true, and your attack power at klevel 80 is something close to 2.5k, so 500m. atk is 20% of attack increase, which from the 500% skill would be another 100%, you end up with a value of 725%, about 3/4 of the dmg of offering, casting 1 sec faster with 1/6 of the delay.

However, there are plenty of assumptions that could be wrong here. For once, if the % power only effects skill attack values, and life control affects the altogather m. atk of your char, you get 45% more m.atk power at level 89. Since Meteor is half as powerful as offering that would result in about 90% of the dmg of offering, and those 10% are simply the difference between a high and a low hit.

[poehalcho]

don't forget that wizzards get magic attack power increase % increase for every lvl...

[Midori]

don't forget that wizzards get magic attack power increase % increase for every lvl...

so do clerics : /

[Embodiment]

With Turnover...at lv80 farm 1 hit glaivers o_0 Wizards with Meteor, 1 hit is 1 hit doesn't matter how much extra damage you do..as long as it takes 1 hit .

[the_wicked]

With Turnover...at lv80 farm 1 hit glaivers o_0 Wizards with Meteor, 1 hit is 1 hit doesn't matter how much extra damage you do..as long as it takes 1 hit .

+1

i still dont like euro, i tend to kill any wizards or rogues that get too close to me >.>
Vision Fire and Fire Combustion FTW
I love when they go inviso, i hit em with it and they walk out and die XD

[ranger4life]

wizard is my fav class on euro, but has the less skills.
i think that wizard does match clerics offering

[punch]

offering and meteor don't have the same range lol.

[Vindicator]

well, on alps, ive watched chicken shit wizards run in an out of town all day, and they dont do nearly enough dmg like a clerics offering. Now, my good friend is a cleric, and lets just say a 35k offering on a sun blader is pretty freaking awsome without zerk. Ive wacthed him use offering on a hunter with 6 mercs, hunter got fried and the 3 mercs that didnt die after offering were killed by a single mars from me..... A wiz would of killed the hunter, not the mercs, and he wouldnt have wtf pwned the hunter like offering does.

[torinchibi]

don't forget that wizzards get magic attack power increase % increase for every lvl...

so do clerics : /

oh, right Clerics HAD it, but I think they removed that and only have it on the caster masteries now....

well, on alps, ive watched chicken shit wizards run in an out of town all day, and they dont do nearly enough dmg like a clerics offering. Now, my good friend is a cleric, and lets just say a 35k offering on a sun blader is pretty freaking awsome without zerk. Ive wacthed him use offering on a hunter with 6 mercs, hunter got fried and the 3 mercs that didnt die after offering were killed by a single mars from me..... A wiz would of killed the hunter, not the mercs, and he wouldnt have wtf pwned the hunter like offering does.

I didn't see the part where you told us a friend of yours used meteor on a hunter... Plus, mercs don't work if the hunter is dead, right? The wizard could have also used one of the aoe attacks to 1 shot the hunter and 4 mercs. Offering does not have unlimited attack count it's like 5 or something so pretty much the same thing...except that you wouldn't need to get in his face to cast the attack... Get yourself a friend wiz the same level so you can really compare.

[HakubiNi]

The damage can come pretty close. Nevertheless, them both get killed in one hit and kill in one hit. ;P

I'd rather have a cleric than a wizard on my side (well... Not since I'm a cleric, but if I were anything else).

Or better...

Wizard cleric!

*goes invisible*
*nears enemy*
*casts offering on the unsuspecting enemy*
*them both dead, yay!*


Adding... Depending on the skill damage growth, on later caps probably the Meteor skill will be stronger than Offering. But probably not at the current cap.

[torinchibi]

The damage can come pretty close. Nevertheless, them both get killed in one hit and kill in one hit. ;P

I'd rather have a cleric than a wizard on my side (well... Not since I'm a cleric, but if I were anything else).

Or better...

Wizard cleric!

*goes invisible*
*nears enemy*
*casts offering on the unsuspecting enemy*
*them both dead, yay!*


Adding... Depending on the skill damage growth, on later caps probably the Meteor skill will be stronger than Offering. But probably not at the current cap.

Wiz/cleric ftw.

Btw, the cleric is sure to die if you hit it right afterhe uses offering unless there is cycle and bless on him, but a wizard can take a shot with good gear even if it's while using life control, and Meteor cannot be canceled with a sneeze ~_~.

[Vindicator]

well, on alps, ive watched chicken shit wizards run in an out of town all day, and they dont do nearly enough dmg like a clerics offering. Now, my good friend is a cleric, and lets just say a 35k offering on a sun blader is pretty freaking awsome without zerk. Ive wacthed him use offering on a hunter with 6 mercs, hunter got fried and the 3 mercs that didnt die after offering were killed by a single mars from me..... A wiz would of killed the hunter, not the mercs, and he wouldnt have wtf pwned the hunter like offering does.

I didn't see the part where you told us a friend of yours used meteor on a hunter... Plus, mercs don't work if the hunter is dead, right? The wizard could have also used one of the aoe attacks to 1 shot the hunter and 4 mercs. Offering does not have unlimited attack count it's like 5 or something so pretty much the same thing...except that you wouldn't need to get in his face to cast the attack... Get yourself a friend wiz the same level so you can really compare.

wrong, mercs do work when the hunter is dead.....the only difference between cleric and a wizard, si that the wizard is dead and the hunter is dead, and when a cleric does it, the cleric is alive, and the hunter and mercs are toast.

[sama98b]

With Turnover...at lv80 farm 1 hit glaivers o_0 Wizards with Meteor, 1 hit is 1 hit doesn't matter how much extra damage you do..as long as it takes 1 hit .

+1

i still dont like euro, i tend to kill any wizards or rogues that get too close to me >.>
Vision Fire and Fire Combustion FTW
I love when they go inviso, i hit em with it and they walk out and die XD

yep had that happening to me
but just got 1 more wiz
and the chinese char couldn't move without dieing
until it had to run and stay in safe area

not a good thing to pick on the ppl who can 1 hit

ps.:
90cap meteor will lose the ability to 1 hit full ctr chars
but offering will 1 hit everyone in range if not blocking it.

offering = when casting can't get hit, if hp drops casting interrupted