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Can some one explain me something?

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:49 pm
by Nitro
Okay ... can some 1 explain me this ....
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Okay ... first picture is 2Handed Warrior and second one
is some kind of hybrid spear ....

I suppose that hybrid spear is wearing Garmend and 2H warrior is wearing
heavy armor probably ....

So ... This aint the only example .... look at difrence between the armors ....
and dmg .... I bet that 2handed swordsman hits more than this guy ...

But the numbers arent showing that ... and look at defense ...

Is it possible that the guy in garmend has bigger phy. defense than
the guy in heavy armor ... and should I even speak about magical defense?

I dunnno is he fully sosun-ed but .... difrence is that huge? O.o


Can some one post his euro stats in heavy armor / light armor / robe ...
and chinese stats in armor / protector / garmend? I am really curious .... so ... if it wouldnt be problem?

You can hide your name and things like that ....
<No photoshoping btw >

Thanks ;)

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:51 pm
by Airbeat
I suppose the hybrid spear is wearing protectors..

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:54 pm
by Nitro
I suppose the hybrid spear is wearing protectors..


I dont think that it matters ... the diffrence is too huge ...
And one day I was comparing some cleric in robe with my two handed warrior....
I had like 500 mag and phy def. ... at lv.60

And she just hitted lv.64 ... and I was looking at defenses ...
She had 500 phy. and like 800 mag. - as I recall ....

So ... can some 1 post their stats so we all can compare?
This is relly starting to worry me >.<

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:54 pm
by Silver0
Airbeat wrote:I suppose the hybrid spear is wearing protectors..

and some sun

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:15 pm
by NuclearSilo
Probably spear has full sun garment/protector.
Your dmg is lower coz u didnt count your passive +%dmg when using 2h sword.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:17 pm
by glavie
look at the int and str stats, that euro is in white gear.
That will effect defense.

Damage comes from skills more than the overall attack power. You cannot tell who does more damage from those pictures.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:27 pm
by Nitro
Damage comes from skills more than the overall attack power. You cannot tell who does more damage from those pictures.


And defense? The diffrence is that huge from white and sosun?
Can some 1 tell me stats of lv. 80 full str. glavier / full int s/s
with white gear?

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:52 pm
by MrFudge
that looks like a hybrid int in armor with a magical screen casted on him.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:27 pm
by luffy07
Also 2h warrior doesnt have a phy defense passive. The hybrid most likely has cold passive + buff and mag buff

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:42 pm
by Nitro
Also 2h warrior doesnt have a phy defense passive. The hybrid most likely has cold passive + buff and mag buff


I bet that passive would help him to own heavy armor in
heavy armor's speciality ....

I still think that its garment , because I dont think that
diffrence of phy. and mag. defense is 1:2 at protector.

The magical defense is almost 2x physical
Once again ... can some one post stats of
Mr. not-so-good-equiped-garmend/protector/armor-chinese guy?

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:50 pm
by Nitro
Also , some Rogue Guy ... has similary stats as 2H Warrior ....
He's equipment is +4 Light Armor and weapon +5 Daggers

I suppose the hybrid spear is wearing protectors..

(You see the difrence is 9:11 at phy. and mag. defense... so that
hybrid spear up there , cant wear protector)
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:19 pm
by luffy07
Nitrozz wrote:Also , some Rogue Guy ... has similary stats as 2H Warrior ....
He's equipment is +4 Light Armor and weapon +5 Daggers

I suppose the hybrid spear is wearing protectors..

(You see the difrence is 9:11 at phy. and mag. defense... so that
hybrid spear up there , cant wear protector)
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the rogue is pure str, hence the low mag def even with light armor.
Remember stat points play a role in defence.

Btw on my earlier posts i was just stating 1 of the factors that might be affecting the difference in defence power. Want my honest opinion? the hybrid int is wearing a few sosun protector pieces. A normal hybrid spear int with +4+5 protector gear would have around 960 phy and 1600 mag( just an estimate but the ratio would be around there)

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:31 pm
by Nitro
A normal hybrid spear int with +4+5 protector gear would have around 960 phy and 1600 mag( just an estimate but the ratio would be around there)


960 phy and 1600 mag ... I think you're wrong ...because this rogue has
like 900 phy and 1100 mag with +4 and +5 light armor..... (I know it doesnt matter now but ;) )

Well ... I guess that the reason that guy has some nice defense is sosuns ....
One more thing ... whats normal defense of full garmend +4 +5 full int?

Does it go like 700 phy and xxxx magical?
Coz if phy. goes above 700 ... that wouldnt be fair ....
I'm going to robe then ^^ (tho Armor looks UberCool)

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:05 pm
by NuclearSilo
To make things clearer, i'll tell u something.

For all types of armor :

PhyDef: Armor ~ Protector+3 ~ Garment+6
MagDef: Garment ~ Protector+5 ~ Armor+10
PhyReinforce: Armor ~ Protector+4.5 ~ Garment+9
MagReinforce: Garment ~ Protector+8 ~ Armor+16

In this case, the spear has full sun garment = normal garment+15 ~ armor+9

Well, u know what i mean... the sun worth more than the heavy armor of the euro

Edit: They worth the same >.<. Because the heavy armor is 3rd degree => armor+8
That's why both char has the same phy defense

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:51 pm
by Nitro
For all types of armor :

PhyDef: Armor ~ Protector+3 ~ Garment+6
MagDef: Garment ~ Protector+5 ~ Armor+10
PhyReinforce: Armor ~ Protector+4.5 ~ Garment+9
MagReinforce: Garment ~ Protector+8 ~ Armor+16


I'm a bit confused here .... I think I knew what you meant....
so you wanted to say .... (lets say those numbers)

PhyDef: Armor lv.57 = Protector lv.60 = Garment lv.67?
MagDef: Garment lv. 57 = Protector lv.52 = Armor lv.47?
(Armor of level 57 has same PhyDef as Protector level 60 and Garment of lv. 63?)
(Garment of level 57 has same MagDef as Protector level 62 and Armor of level 67?)

And sos = +5 , som = +10 and sosun = +15 right?
(So sosun armor lv.57 has PhyDef of level 72)

Correct me If I'm wrong?
So ... I shouldn't be worry about my Euro Character ...
It'will be good :D

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:03 pm
by NuclearSilo
Nitrozz wrote:
For all types of armor :

PhyDef: Armor ~ Protector+3 ~ Garment+6
MagDef: Garment ~ Protector+5 ~ Armor+10
PhyReinforce: Armor ~ Protector+4.5 ~ Garment+9
MagReinforce: Garment ~ Protector+8 ~ Armor+16


I'm a bit confused here .... I think I knew what you meant....
so you wanted to say .... (lets say those numbers)

PhyDef: Armor lv.57 = Protector lv.60 = Garment lv.67?
MagDef: Garment lv. 57 = Protector lv.52 = Armor lv.47?
(Armor of level 57 has same PhyDef as Protector level 60 and Garment of lv. 63?)
(Garment of level 57 has same MagDef as Protector level 62 and Armor of level 67?)

And sos = +5 , som = +10 and sosun = +15 right?
(So sosun armor lv.57 has PhyDef of level 72)

Correct me If I'm wrong?
So ... I shouldn't be worry about my Euro Character ...
It'will be good :D

Totally right :wink:

Except the part defense, in C screen, they may have a bit difference due to the reinforce :)

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:13 pm
by Nitro
Thanks Nuclear :D
btw ... who's that chinese girl in pic....?

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:19 pm
by NuclearSilo
Nitrozz wrote:Thanks Nuclear :D
btw ... who's that chinese girl in pic....?

Secret :wink:
My lover :D

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:39 pm
by shoto
hmm

nope nope

that is just normal. i'm pure int with +4 set... i have less str but i have very similar stats to the lvl 80. i wear no sun

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:05 am
by luffy07
shoto wrote:hmm

nope nope

that is just normal. i'm pure int with +4 set... i have less str but i have very similar stats to the lvl 80. i wear no sun

you probably have a shield too.

im pretty sure that hybrid has a spear.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:02 am
by EternalShadow
Don't know if this helps but:

Cancer Scarlet Robe (Euro D6 Robe Chest)
Lv: 47
Pdef: 36.0
Mdef: 70.4
Prein: 11.09
Mrein: 23.66
Dura: 47
Parry: 24

Blood Soharin Suit (Chinese D6 Garm Chest)
Lv: 47
Pdef 33.6
Mdef 71.8
Prein: 10.4
Mrein: 22.2
Dura: 57
Parry: 24

Taken from sro website (chinese garms get more mdef and less pdef than euro garms)... just shows that the defence is slightly different. Most likely though the difference is comming from higher quality equipment/blues or buffs.

EDIT: Don't have time to make all the euro vs chinese defense comparisons for you; but I'm sure there are slight differences between chinese pro/arm and euro pro/arm, which would be greater amplified by sox or +s.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:44 am
by TerenceChill
according to my stats (i'm not 80 yet, but close to) the hybrid guy has some suns