more bandwidth per server/new server

quas · Post by **quas** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:54 pm

Ok I never knew actually how many people there is on the servers. So I found out about rev6 and saw there that its 2500-3000 max. We all hate this traffic issue, blah, blah...
So wouldn't it be better to add more bandwidth then to add more servers. So that lets say 3500 people can be on a server. I mean 3000 people/5 cities/huge map = no wonder i cant find a suitable party etc. lets say 2000 botters, 500 stallers, so theres 500 legits, lets say 250 euros. I think that 75% go wiz, warrior & rogue, and you're surprised how you cant find a cleric.

So what do you think?

FX · Post by FX » Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:55 pm

i say more bandwidth, i have some chars on some servers which i have wanted to continue leveling but due to the enormous amopunt of gold bot and premium botters i cant :/

Matrixman__ · Post by **Matrixman__** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:58 pm

i assume you mean more bandwidth means more server space
its a good idea, but it would be better to keep server capacity the same (takla is already crowded, cant imagine another 500-1000 people there) and instead make the servers less laggy, adding more servers just means goldbots will fill them to the same capacity the current ones are at. Adding more server slots will just overcrowd the current ones. So why not just make the current ones less laggy...just my opinion

RuYi · Post by **RuYi** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:59 pm

They should implement the district like Guild Wars has.
If one is full, switch to a more quiet one. >>
Then maybe I could actually be able to grind in that godforsaken cave.

maxietheboss · Post by **maxietheboss** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:11 pm

Increase it to 9000 and make like 9 channels of 1000 people per channel max

Master_Mind · Post by **Master_Mind** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:17 pm

i sent a "bug report" telling them to increse the servers instead of making new 1's cu new servers doesnt make the old server less crowded...

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:20 pm

more bandwidth = more lag + need more money.

Would u rather have 100 server 100/100 capacity or 1 server 10000/10000 capacity?

soxdrop · Post by **soxdrop** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:27 pm

lolz you really have no idea what woul this cause, monster spawn rates and the size of the areas cannot support more than 3k people there is already a problem with this amount of people

+1 to ruyis idea

BlackFox · Post by **BlackFox** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:33 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:more bandwidth = more lag + need more money.

Would u rather have 100 server 100/100 capacity or 1 server 10000/10000 capacity?

yea more server is better. but not only 1 server i dont think is so good idea and 10000 is not much if you see how many ppl is on each server
and dont start whit the *** ok

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:38 pm

Let's say we have only 1 server from the begining till now.
Atm, we have 20 servers capacity 3000. So the population is 60k.
If 80%of the population are bots, then in a small area, for example at Bunwhang, there would be 1000k+ bots ks each other haha.

Midori · Post by **Midori** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:40 pm

even if the cap was raised, there still would be the same problems. infact, they would be even worse

yoko · Post by **yoko** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:45 pm

The problem is that what we do not know is how well these machine scale vertically - or even if there is any headroom for additional vertical scaling. I would presume not, as putting more people in the servers would mean more revenue for the same set of hardware/software and hardware maintenance cost.

The fact is, that none of us actually know for sure that the lag many are experiencing is not down to CPU, memory or any other machine resource running out, rather than bandwidth. Only Joymax has sufficient information to know this.

Horizontal scaling is way easier and I do think the game is popular enough that if Joymax banned the majority of botters (gold and otherwise), it would give some room for revenue driving players and still have less issues with people trying to connect to the game.

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:52 pm

If it's not because of lag, the main prob is still bots. More capacity = more space for bots to ks

BlackFox · Post by **BlackFox** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:57 pm

well is better have 20 servers and 10000 people or more can be on a each server.

shoto · Post by **shoto** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:07 pm

maxietheboss wrote:Increase it to 9000 and make like 9 channels of 1000 people per channel max

yes!

i loved that about granado espada... if a channel got laggy or someone was in your spot.. you just switch channels... and each channel would have their own unique spawn so lots of people could fight uniques...overall teh best idea IMO

making servers smaller but increasing size by creating channels is best. more people per server less crowded grind

dhevskie · Post by **dhevskie** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:32 pm

more bandwidth is good, more servers, means i have to buy another picking pet :roll:

maxietheboss · Post by **maxietheboss** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:34 pm

shoto wrote:
maxietheboss wrote:Increase it to 9000 and make like 9 channels of 1000 people per channel max

yes!

i loved that about granado espada... if a channel got laggy or someone was in your spot.. you just switch channels... and each channel would have their own unique spawn so lots of people could fight uniques...overall teh best idea IMO

making servers smaller but increasing size by creating channels is best. more people per server less crowded grind

It would also help against KSing and stuff, i mean 1000 people in the whole world of sro would greatly help, maybe they could then add something like 200 people max in korakoram and if its full you have to swith channels

[SD]Master_Wong · Post by **[SD]Master_Wong** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:36 pm

bandwidth and server capacity are two different things?

one is how many the server can hold the other is how much information can be sent and received

i may be wrong but this is what iv seen it as

quas · Post by **quas** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:43 pm

[SD]Master_Wong wrote:bandwidth and server capacity are two different things?

one is how many the server can hold the other is how much information can be sent and received

i may be wrong but this is what iv seen it as

More server capacity = needs more bandwidth... same ish...

doomas · Post by **doomas** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:46 pm

They should just BAN gold bots, then we wouldn't have this problem! Maybe I don't understand, maybe it's VERY hard to do that >.>
Why can't they just delete all characters with "fhjdhjf" names. But for now more capacity would mean more gold bots

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:56 pm

doomas wrote:They should just BAN gold bots, then we wouldn't have this problem! Maybe I don't understand, maybe it's VERY hard to do that >.>
Why can't they just delete all characters with "fhjdhjf" names. But for now more capacity would mean more gold bots

They returned after being banned. It's not the 1st time JM did that, u know?

Scaglietti · Post by **Scaglietti** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:59 pm

new servers don't change a thing, it has already been proved many times, just check the Mars server, sure its not crowded 24/7 like Greece but the fact remains that 90% people down there bot and i even saw 7x players already.

Fuhito · Post by **Fuhito** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:04 pm

The server capacities are probably based on the size of the map. Why have more then 3000+ people if the areas will be way too crowded? New servers have a 2000 cap because there's usually no one in hotan and the lower lvl areas cannot support 3000 people.

Thats why they open new servers. Not because they are incapable of increasing the cap or cannot support more but because the size of the map cannot support more comfortably.

or.. at least that's what I assume.

HybridNuke · Post by **HybridNuke** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:28 pm

i say new server.

Ever since i played SRO i loved new servers.

Since the new portal came out I can finally play On my farmed Ice blader again (back from the 60cap) but I just cant stand Troy, although its very busy and all that, I find it very unpleasant to play in.

I rather play on my Mercury accounts, not that crowded and a real friendship are things I like,

well I guess u know what my vote goes to

K a R e E m · Post by **K a R e E m** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:48 pm

heeeey , the problem isn't in the bandwidth or more servers
the real problem is the bots
joymax can make no more (cannot connect due to server traffic)
it's easy to know the bots of the legits
they can easily make an anti bot program
or just check the servers manually
They can but they won't
because if they did that they will have no more people buying tickets
they cares about money
and they know that no one will leave the game because of the bots
we are the proof
we (legit players :!:

) hate bots but we still playing and most of us buying tickets.

:banghead:

quas · Post by **quas** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:54 pm

K a R e E m wrote:heeeey , the problem isn't in the bandwidth or more servers
the real problem is the bots
joymax can make no more (cannot connect due to server traffic)
it's easy to know the bots of the legits
they can easily make an anti bot program
or just check the servers manually
They can but they won't
because if they did that they will have no more people buying tickets
they cares about money
and they know that no one will leave the game because of the bots
we are the proof
we (legit players ) hate bots but we still playing and most of us buying tickets.

We know about the bots and Joymax's greed but that is a problem that wont go away... Why bring it up?

Rubennz · Post by **Rubennz** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:41 pm

Just add 10 more servers and ppl will spread and way less server traffic, isn't it a good idea?

Rubennz · Post by **Rubennz** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:44 pm

doomas wrote:They should just BAN gold bots, then we wouldn't have this problem! Maybe I don't understand, maybe it's VERY hard to do that >.>
Why can't they just delete all characters with "fhjdhjf" names. But for now more capacity would mean more gold bots

i think your're right and they must just do it every week instead of server inspection

Luoma · Post by **Luoma** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:59 pm

Pshhh people and Joymax should stop caring about the servers, they are fine. The thing needed is if you are using a bot you get banned. No dumbass massive bot ban, they will just bot their way back up and Joymax can't keep up.

nphillip · Post by **nphillip** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:59 am

quas wrote:Ok I never knew actually how many people there is on the servers. So I found out about rev6 and saw there that its 2500-3000 max. We all hate this traffic issue, blah, blah...
So wouldn't it be better to add more bandwidth then to add more servers. So that lets say 3500 people can be on a server. I mean 3000 people/5 cities/huge map = no wonder i cant find a suitable party etc. lets say 2000 botters, 500 stallers, so theres 500 legits, lets say 250 euros. I think that 75% go wiz, warrior & rogue, and you're surprised how you cant find a cleric.

So what do you think?

i say more bandwidth and more servers ... i think even if they increase the server capacity to 5000 some of the older servers would still be crowded.. just maybe easier to sign on but JM wouldnt do that anyway.

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