BE or NOT to be blader when cap 90 come

^,...,^ · Post by **^,...,^** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:48 am

Is it true that ther's no bladers build in 90 cap on KSRO?! That... they just
swich to other weapon...Lets talk lil about bladers...

Let me hear ur voice

deep.in · Post by **deep.in** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:54 am

Ask Hamlet

But if you ask me...stay blader, you gonna be unique

TOloseGT · Post by **TOloseGT** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:55 am

yes, a unique lvl 80 while every1's lvl 90, mmhm.

deep.in · Post by **deep.in** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:57 am

TOloseGT wrote:yes, a unique lvl 80 while every1's lvl 90, mmhm.

FFS stop thinking only about lvl

the_wicked · Post by **the_wicked** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:09 am

there prob arent any bladers cuz it takes forever to grind.

and its a pain in the a.. to kill people

mosiac · Post by **mosiac** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:11 am

the thing that you need to realize about blade characters, is that your job is to tank, not kill. I've got a pure int and a int hybrid both level 80, neither have been killed by a lv80 +7 blade. Sosun kills though, although I don't know if it's good enough for str chars. it's all a matter of how you want to play.

^,...,^ · Post by **^,...,^** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:20 am

Ahhh....Yeah, u need to have full skills with blader and only than u can kill some1, only than! (and sun wep. recommendably with high crit)

I am full str blader lv 80 full farmed. At the moment i use 72+5, c11 blade.
I can kill int char easly, especialy if i borrow sun from guildm8s, str chars are problem with my weapon (but not with sun).
Also i know that bladers are best in team play, i mean on double team
with kd...

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:26 am

4 bladers stabbing you on the ground at the same time hurts

DragonTalon · Post by **DragonTalon** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:27 am

mosiac wrote:the thing that you need to realize about blade characters, is that your job is to tank, not kill.

Well if they cant kill then they cant Level which is why everyone hates being one

BuddahBless · Post by **BuddahBless** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:32 am

Hershey wrote:Bladers are fun builds because you never die..... <333 its cool

They also look the coolest with 8d gear. <_<

Manowar · Post by **Manowar** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:34 am

Well you can't really compare Ksro to what Isro is going to be like because Ksro had much different conditions than us. They spent the majority of the 90 cap with level 70 skills so of course in those conditions there's no real need for tanks since everyone can tank everyone else. Not to mention just because Ksro does something doesn't mean it's the best thing to do for that cap, I mean after all it was Isro players who won the GNGWC last year.

I think bladers, if anything, will get better at 90 cap not only because people will still be using XL pots and well have skills up to lvl 90 (hopefully), but bladers will also have a second double stab skill (meaning you can quad stab someone) w/ the 4th book stab (has a crit 5 increase on the skill as well). I wouldn't count them out just yet.

m1 · Post by m1 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:49 am

Thank you Manowar on INFO, i didnt know all that for ksro

I saw that next stab

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQoLgoKp9Vw
nice, nice

Yasakira · Post by **Yasakira** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:51 am

MrFudge wrote:4 bladers stabbing you on the ground at the same time hurts

About the same damage as 2 s/s ints stabbing you at teh same time. And with mana shield they are just as good tanks.

FX · Post by FX » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:52 am

why u all saying blader wont level due to not being able to kill? have u grinded in a share party with a blader as tank? nuker does what they are named after, blader tanks. pt mob ftw

Vindicator · Post by **Vindicator** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:56 am

Manowar wrote:
I think bladers, if anything, will get better at 90 cap not only because people will still be using XL pots and well have skills up to lvl 90 (hopefully), but bladers will also have a second double stab skill (meaning you can quad stab someone) w/ the 4th book stab (has a crit 5 increase on the skill as well). I wouldn't count them out just yet.

actually, the next book is 3 stabs, so its a quintuple stab :shock:

Manowar · Post by **Manowar** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:57 am

Vindicator wrote:
Manowar wrote:
I think bladers, if anything, will get better at 90 cap not only because people will still be using XL pots and well have skills up to lvl 90 (hopefully), but bladers will also have a second double stab skill (meaning you can quad stab someone) w/ the 4th book stab (has a crit 5 increase on the skill as well). I wouldn't count them out just yet.

actually, the next book is 3 stabs, so its a quintuple stab

It's two. Here's the skill description:

Vindicator · Post by **Vindicator** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:59 am

Manowar wrote:
Vindicator wrote:
Manowar wrote:
I think bladers, if anything, will get better at 90 cap not only because people will still be using XL pots and well have skills up to lvl 90 (hopefully), but bladers will also have a second double stab skill (meaning you can quad stab someone) w/ the 4th book stab (has a crit 5 increase on the skill as well). I wouldn't count them out just yet.

actually, the next book is 3 stabs, so its a quintuple stab

It's two. Here's the skill description:

w/e the stupid video looked like 5

MiKe 51-50 · Post by **MiKe 51-50** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:08 am

Don't be a blader. A sun +7 blade/shield can't kill anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J7YEPSfsk4
@2:38 you can see a blader dancing around the guy but doesn't seem to stop him.

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:19 am

Be what you wanna be, not much diff now then it has ever been on isro anyway, the only bladers that have ever killed me(upto the 70 cap before I got hacked) were ones with sos +7.

You guys have no idea what gears anyone in those videos have, and don't take the words of someone from it unless its that person who has experienced it. Just because there aren't many doesn't mean they aren't good, like someone above most don't want to be weak at killing stuff. In parties though bladers don't even need to be strong, they can go around get like 20 mobs then bring back to the party, then go get more while the party is killing them, and by the time they are dead there more right there, its pretty fast system. There was a video of it too I think, on ksro the stuff in roc mountain that look kinda like walking goats >.>.

HBblade · Post by **HBblade** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:21 am

ppl still doubt bladers so much...

bleed/division in 80 cap makes bladers more potent

90 cap will bring along another 2stab skills (with crit increase)...so 4 stabs, do the math with bleed/division, bladers will rock worlds

they wont be able to die easily to other builds, but they will have the possibility of killing other builds

Fly · Post by **Fly** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:32 am

80 cap: bow/spear nuker
90 cap: glavie/sword nuker
100 cap: blade/glavie. mostly blade tho.

thats how its gonna be im terms of the best builds. it all has to do with the pot system.

Pred · Post by **Pred** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:34 am

lol. I dont think you should worry about the weapon toooo much.

You should worry about your masteries. Good luck with Hybrid build.

___ONLY___ · Post by **___ONLY___** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:37 am

bladers are weak especcialy at this cap they are unbelievebly weak

m1 · Post by m1 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:55 am

LOL?! ___ONLY___ u telling me that bladers are weak, especialy now?!!?
And how that is possible lol?!
I dont want to be rude... i cant say much for u...than u are noob, coz only nooby can say that.

I am lv76 blader...still not full farmed. I am sure in 1 thing, i'll go with blade till the end

Bladers can lvl fast...but u must know how to use ur skills right and of course u must have good wep (like sun for example

)

Bladers can beat other builds only with full skills
The truth is that they are REALLY BEST for double team:
1. coz they can tenk and tenk and tenk and tenk and tenk other builds while they killing for example ss nuker

(in some pvp or job war or war)
2.coz of kd, i have 6 bladers in my guild, can u guys imagine 6 insane tanks how kd-ing 1 target...buaaaaa....
I am one of the oldest babel players...i use to have earlier many builds
(pure str glaive, str hybrid bow, pure int ss) but...blader...is really good and
i like that build so much...

There isnt ultimate/best build
There is only ultimate/best crew

Spanktastik · Post by **Spanktastik** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:29 am

Fly wrote:80 cap: bow/spear nuker
90 cap: glavie/sword nuker
100 cap: blade/glavie. mostly blade tho.

thats how its gonna be im terms of the best builds. it all has to do with the pot system.

You may or may not have explained this in another thread, but its 1:30 in the morning and im way too buzzed to look for it... can you explain a lil bit? XD

PrincessChei2x · Post by **PrincessChei2x** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:44 am

@ lvl 90 cap, bladers with SO/SUN gears are impossible to kill, especially full int with Ice shield ( they only die when they ran out of pots).

Do you think any1 would survive againts a blader @ 90 lvl cap? A blader might not kill you in like 5 minutes or so but trusts me youll ran out of pots first then its gonna be bye2x for you^^.

mosiac · Post by **mosiac** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:44 am

m1 wrote:Bladers can lvl fast...but u must know how to use ur skills right and of course u must have good wep (like sun for example )

Bladers can beat other builds only with full skills
The truth is that they are REALLY BEST for double team:
1. coz they can tenk and tenk and tenk and tenk and tenk other builds while they killing for example ss nuker (in some pvp or job war or war)
2.coz of kd, i have 6 bladers in my guild, can u guys imagine 6 insane tanks how kd-ing 1 target...buaaaaa....
I am one of the oldest babel players...i use to have earlier many builds
(pure str glaive, str hybrid bow, pure int ss) but...blader...is really good and
i like that build so much...

There isnt ultimate/best build
There is only ultimate/best crew

yes bladers can level fast, but by far not the fastest.

like I said before, I have two int characters, both S/S, and neither will die by a +7 blader fully farmed lvl80. I can just stand there and take all the hits and just pot it off, even without using manashield.. and i'm not wearing any sun.
1. if you think that two bladers are the best for double teaming.. yeah you're wrong. take two pure, or hybrid ints s/s with manashield and / or ironwall. ints do much more damage than blades, and with the addition of manashield and ironwall, plus getting constantly kd'd, it doesnt matter if you have 5k hp or 20k.. your theory there is wrong.
2. As i said before, ints with manashield and ironwall kding opponents would do much more damage than blades.. and you think 6v1 is skill..?
bottom line is, until bladers get new skills, new weaps, and a new larger hp pot isn't released, they will only be made to tank.

PrincessChei2x wrote:@ lvl 90 cap, bladers with SO/SUN gears are impossible to kill, especially full int with Ice shield ( they only die when they ran out of pots).

Do you think any1 would survive againts a blader @ 90 lvl cap? A blader might not kill you in like 5 minutes or so but trusts me youll ran out of pots first then its gonna be bye2x for you^^.

so the way you play, is keep spamming kd until the opponent runs out of pots, which most players have 200-300 on them.. yeah, nice strategy.

m1 · Post by m1 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:52 am

To Spanktastik...
No its not another thread...

There is on the beginning " lets talk lil about bladers "

darkmaster21 · Post by **darkmaster21** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:55 am

On cSRO there is a some level 90 pure str bladers. They do weak damage...but there still cool looking.

PrincessChei2x · Post by **PrincessChei2x** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:02 am

mosiac wrote:
m1 wrote:There isnt ultimate/best build
There is only ultimate/best crew

yes bladers can level fast, but by far not the fastest.

like I said before, I have two int characters, both S/S, and neither will die by a +7 blader fully farmed lvl80. I can just stand there and take all the hits and just pot it off, even without using manashield.. and i'm not wearing any sun.
1. if you think that two bladers are the best for double teaming.. yeah you're wrong. take two pure, or hybrid ints s/s with manashield and / or ironwall. ints do much more damage than blades, and with the addition of manashield and ironwall, plus getting constantly kd'd, it doesnt matter if you have 5k hp or 20k.. your theory there is wrong.
2. As i said before, ints with manashield and ironwall kding opponents would do much more damage than blades.. and you think 6v1 is skill..?
bottom line is, until bladers get new skills, new weaps, and a new larger hp pot isn't released, they will only be made to tank.

PrincessChei2x wrote:@ lvl 90 cap, bladers with SO/SUN gears are impossible to kill, especially full int with Ice shield ( they only die when they ran out of pots).

Do you think any1 would survive againts a blader @ 90 lvl cap? A blader might not kill you in like 5 minutes or so but trusts me youll ran out of pots first then its gonna be bye2x for you^^.

so the way you play, is keep spamming kd until the opponent runs out of pots, which most players have 200-300 on them.. yeah, nice strategy.

well, it did answer to some of the topics on weather a blader can kill or not right? besides, this games WAR is about POTS!