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Xbow or Daggers
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:34 pm
by bakman
im going to make a rogue the rason im not doing both is cause i need to farm and i dont like. so lease vote and tell me which is better ovrall
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:36 pm
by realfoxboy
xbow is about killing enemies before they reach you
daggers are about sneaking up to enemies, kill them quick and GTFO!
decide for yourself

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:38 pm
by bakman
mmmm i cant decide which im even thiking s/s nuke but getting to lvevel 30 is my Dream

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:46 pm
by aerial51
You should put another option: both
A good rogue is one that has both skills, and knows when to use them
Personaly, I like xbow's "fire-and-forget" quick method, but then again, I hate running over to the dead monster's body to check if he drpped anything and pick up gold... which always seems to create some kind of laggy jumps.
So, I use daggers more often. Just kill it and quickly press a key for auto-grab and get on with grind

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:49 pm
by Silver0
well if you have autograb pet go xbow
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:50 pm
by aerial51
Silver0 wrote:well if you have autograb pet go xbow
Yeah, that would be nice...
if you live in a country in which parents don't think that credit cards are Satan's doing

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:15 pm
by Juey
I say both, a rogue is supposed to be using both. If you only choose one of the two. It's like a blader without a shield.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:17 pm
by Gokenzul
Well if this is the only 2 options I voted xbow. Reasoning: probably the best overall for pve, pvp and jobbing.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:17 pm
by FX
i say dagger cuz i hate the farking bolts filling up my inventory
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:23 pm
by Juey
If you can only use one of them, then crossbow it is.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:31 pm
by drey7000
aerial51 wrote:Silver0 wrote:if you live in a country in which parents don't think that credit cards are Satan's doing

OMG you too???
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:43 pm
by Barotix
Read this b4 you make your decision:
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=55184
^property of Xemnas
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:43 pm
by PB_and_J
Both, more fun, bored of x-bow, switch to daggers for a bit and vice versa.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:51 pm
by K a R e E m
PB_and_J wrote:Both, more fun, bored of x-bow, switch to daggers for a bit and vice versa.
and what about sp and gold in higher lvls

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:00 pm
by Barotix
K a R e E m wrote:PB_and_J wrote:Both, more fun, bored of x-bow, switch to daggers for a bit and vice versa.
and what about sp and gold in higher lvls

its called farming.....
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:06 pm
by K a R e E m
Barotix wrote:K a R e E m wrote:PB_and_J wrote:Both, more fun, bored of x-bow, switch to daggers for a bit and vice versa.
and what about sp and gold in higher lvls

its called farming.....
i know farming
but it's harder to farm for 2 wep skills
but i dunno about rouge skills
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:14 pm
by Barotix
K a R e E m wrote:Barotix wrote:K a R e E m wrote:PB_and_J wrote:Both, more fun, bored of x-bow, switch to daggers for a bit and vice versa.
and what about sp and gold in higher lvls

its called farming.....
i know farming
but it's harder to farm for 2 wep skills
but i dunno about rouge skills
its easy....kinda....for me i guess....meh?....
ok im gonna play sro now....
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:15 pm
by XemnasXD
I prefer dagger but if you want faster lvling go with Xbow...you must work harder for the best things in SRO so i don't mind being dagger...its a nice change after trying to 9 gap with a pur str blader with no sos

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:15 pm
by BuddahBless
From my experience...go with crossbow. You will be more helpful in jobbing and in parties with a crossbow. Dagger is more pvp oriented (for lvl 6x pvp) and it's just better to start with a crossbow. And don't try to get both till later on. Why farm when you dont have to? It's just a hassle. :o
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:18 pm
by XemnasXD
BuddahBless wrote:From my experience...go with crossbow. You will be more helpful in jobbing and in parties with a crossbow. Dagger is more pvp oriented and it's just better to start with a crossbow. And don't try to get both till later on. Why farm when you dont have to? It's just a hassle. :o
Jobbing is PvP....
And why not have the best of both worlds even if you get 1 or the other you'll still have to farm a bit to max them out unless you've got silk
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:56 pm
by chicksboy
I like to use daggers because its what ninjas use.
I dont like to use xbow because the animation for their skills sucks.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:01 pm
by bakman
chicksboy wrote:
I dont like to use xbow because the animation for their skills sucks.
the same with me but if there good wth
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:10 pm
by darkmaster21
I would get both of them, dagger and crossbow, it really is a great combo

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:43 pm
by 139022
CROSSBOW. say ur lvl 58, ur looking for isy with ur party, u want to get the kill right? u use daggers and sacrifice 75% of defense if u want to get the kill. so there is a VERY good chance u will die easily. u use xbow, u can attack from very large distance and no mobs will attack you, u will also do the most damage.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:45 pm
by Firefly_ro
x-bow.most of the time i kill general mobs before they reach me(my lvl or even higher with 5 or better lvls + x-bow extreme).with daggers you're already there so.
Lets take it this way :
x-bow: you go to hunt mobs your lvl,lets say mujigi,cause that's what i'm hunting atm.You activate x-bow xtreme... i one shot them,they don't even move since they die in 1hit.
daggers: you go to hunt mobs your lvl,lets say mujigi,cause that's what i'm hunting atm.you activate desperate daggers...it takes more then 1 hit to kill them(1 hit,not one skill,prick is out of discussion).in that time they hit you once.
Desperate daggers = -75% defence. I have like 300phy defence and 360 mag defence.-75% deffence that is 75phy defence and 90 mag.that means a mob does like 200 more dmg to you..and since you're an euro ,with the pot delay ,you suck if you're solo(and no cleric sub).
x-bow = -50% Hp.i have 6k HP so 3k after this and -40%phy defence. that is from 300 to 180.i can survive,but the general mobs don't even touch me since i 1 hit them.
and how by much are the daggers better then the x-bow in pvp ? yea..you hit a lot and fast and the high crit helps you but..
daggers=lower defence then x-bow
x-bow= better defence then daggers.
And dunno but when i was with daggers @ penons(party) i was aggro-ing penons..with x-bow i wasn't doing this...wierd.
If you want to save SP and don't take both..take x-bow.Daggers are cool in pvp though

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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:05 am
by Jstar1
I just bought both right when I started my rogue
you need both of them and everybody above me mentioned why
but I do agree if you only want one of them (and save sp or whatever)
take the crossbow
personally, i like the dagger because its more fun going to the enemy and cutting him up with crits
also, worrying about dieing is not a problem if your in a party with a good warrior and wizards
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:09 am
by XemnasXD
I find that Xbow guys go down ALOT easier than Dagger guys especially in PvP theres no way you can last that long against Strs with -40% Def AND -50% health
75% - def is alot easier to manage and boost with the right sub whereas with Xbow theres no fixing it....8K health at lvl 70 is not enough
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:36 am
by iBilly
XemnasXD wrote:I find that Xbow guys go down ALOT easier than Dagger guys especially in PvP theres no way you can last that long against Strs with -40% Def AND -50% health
75% - def is alot easier to manage and boost with the right sub whereas with Xbow theres no fixing it....8K health at lvl 70 is not enough
The 75% defense is easier as well because of pot cooldowns, you need higher HP for the pot to last longer.
If you have a tiny amount of HP, say 2.5k at level 40+ with Crossbow Extreme on, the large pots you should be using at that point will be done healing you in about 1-2 seconds. That sort of thing gets you killed.
On Topic: Get Both, there's no way around it. You need both,
need!
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:39 am
by Evil_Venom
aerial51 wrote: Just kill it and quickly press a key for auto-grab and get on with grind

Isnt it the g key to auto grab.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:35 pm
by the_wicked
just gap a while and get both...its not that hard >.>