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Need your help guys sending complaints about this.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:14 pm
by FluxFire
In any facets of life, you will have great people, marvelous people and trash, subhuman scums. This game provides a wide open door to abuse, because it has ZERO ingame moderation and no QUICK way of sending abuse reports unlike many other online games out there.

So guys, I'm gona ask a favor for any one of you who are on Persia server and write a complaint about this guild:

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You do realize what "White Power" means, I highly doubt I have to explain these words to anyone here. And you also realize that, if this isn't acted on, it will open the door even wider to monsters like that on every servers.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:16 pm
by maxietheboss
Instead of a zero-tolerance policy JoyMax has a zero-care policy

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:18 pm
by DrunkiMunki
this guild was in xian 2 a while ago. Didnt last long.
You dont need GM's to destroy a guild..

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:19 pm
by Nantosh
Go to the main site and report it, or spam the official forums, cause guild emblems have been banned before (when they came out, there where many Nazi sign emblems, and JM actually acted on that and told them to change it or be banned). So yah ^^.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:20 pm
by Vindicator
normally id say forget what someone on an online game says or shows, but i know i hate the guild Hizbullah on Alps server, just because of their name.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:22 pm
by Nodame
hey lol.
the union tag on the german guild behind the ujigi is the same as the nemesis one on greece.. except their circle is blue and ours is orange hehe.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:22 pm
by soxdrop
Even if they checked this case they wouldn't find that it's against the rules because it is an indirect offense.

There is also a clan named KKK on an other server i don't remember know where and nothing will happen..

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:27 pm
by FluxFire
soxdrop wrote:Even if they checked this case they wouldn't find that it's against the rules because it is an indirect offense.

There is also a clan named KKK on an other server i don't remember know where and nothing will happen..


I would sincerely hope that wouldn't be true a case, sox, because if it was, this company would really disappoint me totally.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:33 pm
by soxdrop
but since their guild emblem is truly the simbol of that racist organization if you highlight that gm might do sth

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:41 pm
by FluxFire
soxdrop wrote:but since their guild emblem is truly the simbol of that racist organization if you highlight that gm might do sth


Well i did sent a complaint, that goes without saying, the moment I saw that I took the cap and wrote a complaint through (and weirdly enough) the bug report system.

But this does pretty much state how... mmm... strange it is to have a company like JoyMax not providing in game moderation or even in game complaint system. Instead, they have a out-of-game system which isn't even called a Report system.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:32 am
by iBilly
Would people consider it racist if the guild name was Black_Power with a black fist?

I doubt it... God I hate political correctness.

Just ignore them, unless they're expressing racism in words to individuals it may offend, I don't see what the problem is. If they're keeping to themselves, leave them be.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:39 am
by Sylhana
Its like that on every server. Just report it in, might take a while but they will usually do something about it.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:40 am
by soxdrop
iBilly wrote:Would people consider it racist if the guild name was Black_Power with a black fist?

I doubt it... God I hate political correctness.

Just ignore them, unless they're expressing racism in words to individuals it may offend, I don't see what the problem is. If they're keeping to themselves, leave them be.


white power is an existing racist organization with the same emblem -.-

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:45 am
by iBilly
soxdrop wrote:
iBilly wrote:Would people consider it racist if the guild name was Black_Power with a black fist?

I doubt it... God I hate political correctness.

Just ignore them, unless they're expressing racism in words to individuals it may offend, I don't see what the problem is. If they're keeping to themselves, leave them be.


white power is an existing racist organization with the same emblem -.-

I know that, read the last part of my post.

People need to learn to ignore and not get worked up about this stuff, it's the Internet, every bad thing imaginable happens here. You can make an attempt to get them banned or to get the name changed/guild removed, but I am almost certain you will be unsuccessful.

P.S. Before I get the crowd verbally ganking me, I'm not a racist, I'm very much against racism as I think they're ignorant, intolerable lowlives living in the past, but that doesn't mean I can't make a valid point on the subject.

Ignore them, a guild name shouldn't offend anyone in this day and age.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:51 am
by HakubiNi
Ah, c'mon, they didn't chose that guild name to mock the black skinned people. Probably it is completely unrelated.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:12 am
by uBeR
People still use the Nazi emblem for their guild on Babel, even though Joymax said it wasn't allowed on their front page right after the guild update.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:54 am
by Ichimaru420
lol there lucky there not on my server I'd murder em on site

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:46 pm
by CareBear
lol, i would like euros and chinese banned, I consider that racial discrimination, if a euro kills a chinese char i feel deeply offended that the chinese are being portrayed as weak while the white(ish) euro chars are being portrayed as superior ... btw u can vice versa that if you want






GET A FN LIFE lol theres a lot more to worry about in sro than a guild called white power



wait actually theres not: Joymax has banned sentances like "if u want" so i feel safe from all abuse now

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:49 pm
by im_a_bot
babel has a hacker guild called "big_dicks" with a penis as there sig...they have been around for like 3 months

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:14 pm
by BigRob1
im_a_bot wrote:babel has a hacker guild called "big_dicks" with a penis as there sig...they have been around for like 3 months


lol

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:21 pm
by organic
HakubiNi wrote:Ah, c'mon, they didn't chose that guild name to mock the black skinned people. Probably it is completely unrelated.


You moron!

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:45 pm
by XemnasXD
1.why do people think that white power groups only offend black ppl.?
2. I'd gladly help you b1tch about it but something tells me nothings going to happen :(
3. Theres a guild called KKK in Odin but i think they're Turkish and it means something different in they're language.
4. How did that guild get to lvl 4 without JM doing anything about it. Really i think if we brought these guys to court we could sue them for all sorts of negligence.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:17 pm
by sheeplol5
Leipo wrote:this guild was in xian 2 a while ago. Didnt last long.
You dont need GM's to destroy a guild..


corect, but you need GM's to make a rare appearance to make all rule breakers weewee themselves.
and yeah maxie. joymax dosent care.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:18 pm
by RMP
This is another sample of the JM commitement.

From ElDorado

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Salu2.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:11 pm
by FluxFire
iBilly wrote:Would people consider it racist if the guild name was Black_Power with a black fist?

I doubt it... God I hate political correctness.

Just ignore them, unless they're expressing racism in words to individuals it may offend, I don't see what the problem is. If they're keeping to themselves, leave them be.


I afraid I'd get some of that trash here, after all these guys do have supporters. Comparing this to "political correctness" is deeply offensive and totally out of order. Ignore hatred? Yeah right, of course, that's exactly what those racists wants, people ignore them, they grow, and start talking, exchanging ideas and soon the enter mainstream.

The last anyone should do is something as stupid, as dumb as to ignore that trash in any facet of life, whether at work, whether at home, whether playing on the internet or outside, never ignore racist trash, racist violence.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:14 pm
by FluxFire
RMP wrote:This is another sample of the JM commitement.

From ElDorado

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Salu2.


Again, it is the very serious lack of any in-game reporting, I sincerely hope one day there will be a sort of ISO standard for internet companies so that they are FORCED to abide by certain rules and make sure none of that trash even filter out to children.

Zyklon was used by Germans during World War to kill millions of innocent people, to see this trash you can only imagine the human trash behind the computer.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:18 pm
by FluxFire
CareBear wrote:
GET A FN LIFE lol theres a lot more to worry about in sro than a guild called white power



As I already said, I afraid I' find surporters of those type of offenses, but then again this is something I expected.

Your comment.. there is really nothing to answer to, your reply is a statement by itself one that you will have to carry until one day, you may wake up from your own personal nightmare.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:20 pm
by DarkJackal
lol it most likely is racist, but ya never know, could just be enthusiasts lol, ya know like, some girls are all about the "girl power" stuff, doesn't mean they are sexist or something like that, but its probably nothing like that lol ;d.

I think joymax would do something about this though, they aren't botting are they? If so then nvm lol.


Whenever a GM shows up, they end up running away, they actually run away form players lol, how sad is that >.> lol..

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:21 pm
by xRemiXx
NO OFFENCE.

Go cry somewhere else.
It happens and unless JoyMax cares they will do something. (I doubt it)

+ You act as if this is World War 3

Why do you kids cry about such stupid stuff?

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:42 pm
by HakubiNi
organic wrote:
HakubiNi wrote:Ah, c'mon, they didn't chose that guild name to mock the black skinned people. Probably it is completely unrelated.


You moron!

Why am I a moron?

You're seeing all this with racist eyes. I ask you to think what else it could be.

GermanHunters for instance, would mean they're German and Hunters, not that they hunt germans. Honestly, I ask...