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>_< someone claiming someone got ID & pass retriev

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:22 pm
by HarshCargo
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He claimed LcTVirus hacked me and made a program which reveals everyone ID and password, within Xian?

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:23 pm
by Amelie
were you hacked once?

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:24 pm
by HarshCargo
Amelie wrote:were you hacked once?


My old account got hacked few weeks ago.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:25 pm
by Tigerlein
Oh larryshorty,he even told me that hes dad is GM Crayon.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:28 pm
by Amelie
HarshCargo wrote:
Amelie wrote:were you hacked once?


My old account got hacked few weeks ago.



well maybe that dude knows who you are and he's trying to scare the hell out of you, if what he says it's true, then all your server would be hacked.

Dont believe his words. :)


and change your pass and email.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:29 pm
by TOloseGT
change ur pass and email quick

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:31 pm
by Amelie
TOloseGT wrote:change ur pass and email quick


what he/she said.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:32 pm
by TheGiftedOne
if he really had hacked you, he would wait untill you go offline and he would clean your account. so dont worry :)

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:33 pm
by HarshCargo
I've already changed everything.

My old account password got changed 0_o, don't know how he got my secret answer

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:36 pm
by NuclearSilo
Well... try to clean your pc and change pass oftenly. Every security is good but not perfect, there's still a hole hacker can get through....

http://www.silkroadtavern.com/forums/in ... topic=9322

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:51 pm
by Gman22
NuclearSilo wrote:Well... try to clean your pc and change pass oftenly. Every security is good but not perfect, there's still a hole hacker can get through....

http://www.silkroadtavern.com/forums/in ... topic=9322

Thats back when you could get usernames and password hashes from the official forums. They fixed getting usernames and I think they fixed the password hash thing or else there would be a ton of people getting hacked like there used to be.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:57 pm
by NuclearSilo
Gman22 wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:Well... try to clean your pc and change pass oftenly. Every security is good but not perfect, there's still a hole hacker can get through....

http://www.silkroadtavern.com/forums/in ... topic=9322

Thats back when you could get usernames and password hashes from the official forums. They fixed getting usernames and I think they fixed the password hash thing or else there would be a ton of people getting hacked like there used to be.

What is a "hash" exactly, i didnt get it? :P

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:10 am
by iBilly
NuclearSilo wrote:
Gman22 wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:Well... try to clean your pc and change pass oftenly. Every security is good but not perfect, there's still a hole hacker can get through....

http://www.silkroadtavern.com/forums/in ... topic=9322

Thats back when you could get usernames and password hashes from the official forums. They fixed getting usernames and I think they fixed the password hash thing or else there would be a ton of people getting hacked like there used to be.

What is a "hash" exactly, i didnt get it? :P


This: #

:roll:

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:56 am
by Gman22
NuclearSilo wrote:
Gman22 wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:Well... try to clean your pc and change pass oftenly. Every security is good but not perfect, there's still a hole hacker can get through....

http://www.silkroadtavern.com/forums/in ... topic=9322

Thats back when you could get usernames and password hashes from the official forums. They fixed getting usernames and I think they fixed the password hash thing or else there would be a ton of people getting hacked like there used to be.

What is a "hash" exactly, i didnt get it? :P

It is your password encrypted with MD5. There is no way of decrypting the password either.

I don't wanna explain it more publicly, so if you wanna know more just lemme know and I'll pm you about it.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:02 am
by NuclearSilo
Gman22 wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
Gman22 wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:Well... try to clean your pc and change pass oftenly. Every security is good but not perfect, there's still a hole hacker can get through....

http://www.silkroadtavern.com/forums/in ... topic=9322

Thats back when you could get usernames and password hashes from the official forums. They fixed getting usernames and I think they fixed the password hash thing or else there would be a ton of people getting hacked like there used to be.

What is a "hash" exactly, i didnt get it? :P

It is your password encrypted with MD5. There is no way of decrypting the password either.

I don't wanna explain it more publicly, so if you wanna know more just lemme know and I'll pm you about it.

If it's not decryptable, then how could the server read it. Maybe the hacker who hacked nightbloom use the same way as the server does... :?

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:06 am
by Intruder
NuclearSilo wrote:
Gman22 wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
Gman22 wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:Well... try to clean your pc and change pass oftenly. Every security is good but not perfect, there's still a hole hacker can get through....

http://www.silkroadtavern.com/forums/in ... topic=9322

Thats back when you could get usernames and password hashes from the official forums. They fixed getting usernames and I think they fixed the password hash thing or else there would be a ton of people getting hacked like there used to be.

What is a "hash" exactly, i didnt get it? :P

It is your password encrypted with MD5. There is no way of decrypting the password either.

I don't wanna explain it more publicly, so if you wanna know more just lemme know and I'll pm you about it.

If it's not decryptable, then how could the server read it. Maybe the hacker who hacked nightbloom use the same way as the server does... :?


When a password is "hashed", it is stored in the database. There is no need to for it to be "decryptable". When the user types it in to authenticate, the input is hashed, and then compared to what is on record (in the database). If it is a match, then what was typed is correct, and wrong otherwise.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:33 am
by NuclearSilo
Intruder wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
Gman22 wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
Gman22 wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:Well... try to clean your pc and change pass oftenly. Every security is good but not perfect, there's still a hole hacker can get through....

http://www.silkroadtavern.com/forums/in ... topic=9322

Thats back when you could get usernames and password hashes from the official forums. They fixed getting usernames and I think they fixed the password hash thing or else there would be a ton of people getting hacked like there used to be.

What is a "hash" exactly, i didnt get it? :P

It is your password encrypted with MD5. There is no way of decrypting the password either.

I don't wanna explain it more publicly, so if you wanna know more just lemme know and I'll pm you about it.

If it's not decryptable, then how could the server read it. Maybe the hacker who hacked nightbloom use the same way as the server does... :?


When a password is "hashed", it is stored in the database. There is no need to for it to be "decryptable". When the user types it in to authenticate, the input is hashed, and then compared to what is on record (in the database). If it is a match, then what was typed is correct, and wrong otherwise.

I understand a bit... But why it's not possible to decrypt? To encrypt something u need a special code to convert the original ID&pass to a different word, right?
So for example, if the hacker has an account with ID "user01" and it's converted into hash as "abcdef". So he will try to find the inverse of the special code by converting "abcdef" to "user01".
Correct me if im wrong.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:44 am
by Midori

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:54 am
by Intruder
NuclearSilo wrote:
Intruder wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
Gman22 wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
Gman22 wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:Well... try to clean your pc and change pass oftenly. Every security is good but not perfect, there's still a hole hacker can get through....

http://www.silkroadtavern.com/forums/in ... topic=9322

Thats back when you could get usernames and password hashes from the official forums. They fixed getting usernames and I think they fixed the password hash thing or else there would be a ton of people getting hacked like there used to be.

What is a "hash" exactly, i didnt get it? :P

It is your password encrypted with MD5. There is no way of decrypting the password either.

I don't wanna explain it more publicly, so if you wanna know more just lemme know and I'll pm you about it.

If it's not decryptable, then how could the server read it. Maybe the hacker who hacked nightbloom use the same way as the server does... :?


When a password is "hashed", it is stored in the database. There is no need to for it to be "decryptable". When the user types it in to authenticate, the input is hashed, and then compared to what is on record (in the database). If it is a match, then what was typed is correct, and wrong otherwise.

I understand a bit... But why it's not possible to decrypt? To encrypt something u need a special code to convert the original ID&pass to a different word, right?
So for example, if the hacker has an account with ID "user01" and it's converted into hash as "abcdef". So he will try to find the inverse of the special code by converting "abcdef" to "user01".
Correct me if im wrong.


Different concept. Hashing is usually done to digitally "sign" something. What you are essentially asking for is an explanation to a "One-way ..." something. (The something being an encryption function for instance).

The idea is to be able to "encrypt" but not to be able to "decrypt". The reasons are obvious (see my first explanation).

If you study Computer Science, however, you'll know that one of unproved things in the field is the TRUE so-called "One-way encryption function" (or variation of). Personally I don't think one can exist. But it is possible to create one that is sufficient enough to make "decryption" to be inefficient (ie, take way to much time to be practical).

Re: >_< someone claiming someone got ID & pass ret

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:33 am
by Lith
HarshCargo wrote:Image

He claimed LcTVirus hacked me and made a program which reveals everyone ID and password, within Xian?


I heard you can gain peoples password by MSN... and larryshorty is a noob lol

Re: >_< someone claiming someone got ID & pass ret

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:27 am
by _Shinigami_
Lith wrote:
HarshCargo wrote:Image

He claimed LcTVirus hacked me and made a program which reveals everyone ID and password, within Xian?


I heard you can gain peoples password by MSN... and larryshorty is a noob lol


really/?! :shock: :P

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:31 pm
by Shinobi
i know larryshorty, i totally hate him to the limit :D

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:39 am
by Grimmjow
Kudaran.