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9th Degree + protectors
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:08 pm
by StuckUP
does any1 think that the future protectors feature animals from the chinese zodiac becase that's what it seem's like and I concluded this because I looked at all the drawings on the homepage and and alot of them featured animals from the chinese zodiac,and since we already know that 9th degree features the boar and 10th degree features the ox. so what do u think about it? from 9th-15th degree will the protectors will feature different animals from the Chinese Zodiac. I think that 11th degree will feature the Ram but I dunno about the other protectors
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:11 pm
by HakubiNi
All I know the 7th degree is based off the monkey.
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:12 pm
by StuckUP
HakubiNi wrote:All I know the 7th degree is based off the monkey.
really I never did notice...I thought it just looked pretty
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:19 pm
by HakubiNi
I know that because the chinese writing on the 7th degree protector female tasset (legs) means "Monkey (of the zodiac)". Other than that, I can only assume depending on the equipment names.
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:24 pm
by Nenhunter
the ram is already used on the lvl 32+ protector (the yellow ones) i think.
The visible hat clearly looks like a ram. I'll try to find one of those hats and screen it
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:46 pm
by ThatBluePerson
The dragon is already in some shields, and armors... also the ram.
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:08 pm
by XemnasXD
JoyMax wrote:The weapons and armor are each divided into 12 different types and from the lowest 1st degree to the 6th degree weapons; these weapons are all taken from historical accounts of weapons and defenses in order to be a grounded in reality as close as possible. The 7th degree to 12th degree equipment are based on elements that do not violate the cultural feel yet have hints of fantasy and use imagery that has a powerful feel but at the same time does not stray too far from the historical.
In the case of the Chinese, 12 spirits of the land, animals, and their images are used on the equipment and for each have uniqueness to them. In the case of the Europeans, the Imperial imagery of 12 constellations differentiates the equipment.
the 12 animals they are refering to are the Chinese zodiac
i don't know them all but i think
3D= Rooster
4D= ram/sheep
5D=Snake
6D=Dragon
7D= Moneky (didn't know that before)
8D=Horse
9D=Boar
10D=Ox
anyone figure out what 1D and 2D are and then we'll be able to figure out what 11D and 12D are

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:12 pm
by GaS
XemnasXD wrote:JoyMax wrote:The weapons and armor are each divided into 12 different types and from the lowest 1st degree to the 6th degree weapons; these weapons are all taken from historical accounts of weapons and defenses in order to be a grounded in reality as close as possible. The 7th degree to 12th degree equipment are based on elements that do not violate the cultural feel yet have hints of fantasy and use imagery that has a powerful feel but at the same time does not stray too far from the historical.
In the case of the Chinese, 12 spirits of the land, animals, and their images are used on the equipment and for each have uniqueness to them. In the case of the Europeans, the Imperial imagery of 12 constellations differentiates the equipment.
the 12 animals they are refering to are the Chinese zodiac
i don't know them all but i think
3D= Rooster
4D= ram/sheep
5D=Snake
6D=Dragon
7D= Moneky (didn't know that before)
8D=Horse
9D=Boar
10D=Ox
anyone figure out what 1D and 2D are and then we'll be able to figure out what 11D and 12D are

This is probably a hint that the max cap will go to 120, not 150.
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:17 pm
by XemnasXD
We're missing Rat, Rabbit, Dog, Tiger
Im going to say
1D=Rat
2D=Rabbit ( the armor helmet kinda looks like it has bunny ears)
so the remaining sets should be based of the Dog and the Tiger.....should be awsome
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:50 pm
by s0017
I still think 6D and 5D armors both represent the snake. Python Armor, Hard Scale armor.
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:51 pm
by Nenhunter
well, 7D spear is based off of the Dragon....Its called Dragon Horn spear....

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:06 pm
by uBeR
I remember reading somewhere that SRO said the 1D-4D (or something) are based on actual items and weapons of the time, and the rest are based on fantasy.
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:16 pm
by pinoyplaya
Is this correct?
As far as weapons go...
Degree - Level
1 - 1
2 - 8
3 - 16
4 - 24
5 - 32
6 - 42
7 - 52
8 - 64
9 - 76
10 - 88
11 - 100 or 102?
12 - 112 or 114?
13 - 124 or 130?
14 - 136 or 146?
LOL, I thought there was a pattern in there. If I was wrong in the 9th degree one, then im wrong with the rest haha.
Edit: Maybe this one is the right one.........
Starting at 9
9 - 75
10 - 88
11 - 101
12 - 115
13 - 130
14 - 145
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:23 pm
by StuckUP
XemnasXD wrote:JoyMax wrote:The weapons and armor are each divided into 12 different types and from the lowest 1st degree to the 6th degree weapons; these weapons are all taken from historical accounts of weapons and defenses in order to be a grounded in reality as close as possible. The 7th degree to 12th degree equipment are based on elements that do not violate the cultural feel yet have hints of fantasy and use imagery that has a powerful feel but at the same time does not stray too far from the historical.
In the case of the Chinese, 12 spirits of the land, animals, and their images are used on the equipment and for each have uniqueness to them. In the case of the Europeans, the Imperial imagery of 12 constellations differentiates the equipment.
the 12 animals they are refering to are the Chinese zodiac
i don't know them all but i think
3D= Rooster
4D= ram/sheep
5D=Snake
6D=Dragon
7D= Moneky (didn't know that before)
8D=Horse
9D=Boar
10D=Ox
anyone figure out what 1D and 2D are and then we'll be able to figure out what 11D and 12D are

but isn't 1 of the protectors for 7th degree named tiger? U know Tiger Bone Protetctor? so I think we should replace monkey with tiger
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:34 pm
by Manowar
pinoyplaya wrote:Starting at 9
9 - 75
10 - 88
11 - 101
12 - 115
13 - 130
14 - 145
9d is 76, which can be proven. Guessing by the pattern of 2nd and 3rd tier 9d, which is lvl 80 and 85 that there would be a 5 lvl gap between 9d third tier and 10d first tier so my guess is 10d will go 90, 95, 100. Yet again I'm speaking out of theorycraft and basing all that I'm saying on past paterns of equipment.
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:06 pm
by XemnasXD
StuckUP wrote:XemnasXD wrote:JoyMax wrote:The weapons and armor are each divided into 12 different types and from the lowest 1st degree to the 6th degree weapons; these weapons are all taken from historical accounts of weapons and defenses in order to be a grounded in reality as close as possible. The 7th degree to 12th degree equipment are based on elements that do not violate the cultural feel yet have hints of fantasy and use imagery that has a powerful feel but at the same time does not stray too far from the historical.
In the case of the Chinese, 12 spirits of the land, animals, and their images are used on the equipment and for each have uniqueness to them. In the case of the Europeans, the Imperial imagery of 12 constellations differentiates the equipment.
the 12 animals they are refering to are the Chinese zodiac
i don't know them all but i think
3D= Rooster
4D= ram/sheep
5D=Snake
6D=Dragon
7D= Moneky (didn't know that before)
8D=Horse
9D=Boar
10D=Ox
anyone figure out what 1D and 2D are and then we'll be able to figure out what 11D and 12D are

but isn't 1 of the protectors for 7th degree named tiger? U know Tiger Bone Protetctor? so I think we should replace monkey with tiger
yeah but 2 ppl up thee said that the writing on the armor says monkey...of course thats not really THAT credible so i guess we could replace it but since we don't know its better to just leave it up in the air i guess.....the thing on the armor shoulder pad does look more like a tiger than a monkey though
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:22 pm
by StuckUP
XemnasXD wrote:StuckUP wrote:XemnasXD wrote:JoyMax wrote:The weapons and armor are each divided into 12 different types and from the lowest 1st degree to the 6th degree weapons; these weapons are all taken from historical accounts of weapons and defenses in order to be a grounded in reality as close as possible. The 7th degree to 12th degree equipment are based on elements that do not violate the cultural feel yet have hints of fantasy and use imagery that has a powerful feel but at the same time does not stray too far from the historical.
In the case of the Chinese, 12 spirits of the land, animals, and their images are used on the equipment and for each have uniqueness to them. In the case of the Europeans, the Imperial imagery of 12 constellations differentiates the equipment.
the 12 animals they are refering to are the Chinese zodiac
i don't know them all but i think
3D= Rooster
4D= ram/sheep
5D=Snake
6D=Dragon
7D= Moneky (didn't know that before)
8D=Horse
9D=Boar
10D=Ox
anyone figure out what 1D and 2D are and then we'll be able to figure out what 11D and 12D are

but isn't 1 of the protectors for 7th degree named tiger? U know Tiger Bone Protetctor? so I think we should replace monkey with tiger
yeah but 2 ppl up thee said that the writing on the armor says monkey...of course thats not really THAT credible so i guess we could replace it but since we don't know its better to just leave it up in the air i guess.....the thing on the armor shoulder pad does look more like a tiger than a monkey though
+1
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:35 pm
by Rainigul
Manowar wrote:pinoyplaya wrote:Starting at 9
9 - 75
10 - 88
11 - 101
12 - 115
13 - 130
14 - 145
9d is 76, which can be proven. Guessing by the pattern of 2nd and 3rd tier 9d, which is lvl 80 and 85 that there would be a 5 lvl gap between 9d third tier and 10d first tier so my guess is 10d will go 90, 95, 100. Yet again I'm speaking out of theorycraft and basing all that I'm saying on past paterns of equipment.
This is the real grid I believe:
1D - 1
2D - 8
3D - 16
4D - 24
5D - 32
6D - 42
7D - 52
8D - 64
9D - 76
10D - 88/90
11D - 102/104/106
12D - 122/124/126
I don't think there's a 13D.
[EDIT:] This might be it:
1D - 1
2D - 8
3D - 16
4D - 24
5D - 32
6D - 42
7D - 52
8D - 64
9D - 76
10D - 88
11D - 102
12D - 116
13D - 132
... Maybe.
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:52 pm
by HakubiNi
I would not trust Joymax's translation regarding equipment names.
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:33 am
by jabbers
lol 7th deg is tiger?
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:36 am
by vindicated01
no d9 prot...only armor and garment for d9...
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:52 am
by Rizla
XemnasXD wrote:10D=Ox
Nice thats my year ^^
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:06 am
by Hitman144
isnt the 3rd deg armor based on the RAM ??
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:08 am
by Manowar
HakubiNi wrote:I would not trust Joymax's translation regarding equipment names.
Yep. I would bet my glavie on it.
isnt the 3rd deg armor based on the RAM
Nope if you look at 4th degree protector you can clearly tell that it's based on ram.
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:24 pm
by knredash
And so its goes that the zodia for Chinese gear is a mixed? Key: Observe the "Hat" and "Shoulder" pattern, follow by the "Torso" with "Legs", and finally the "Hands" and "Feet"...
D1 Rat (Parts)
D2 Rabbit (Parts) <= Joymax throws in Hare elements into it... the "ears" are the "feeders"
D3 Rooster (Parts)
D4 Sheep (Parts)
D5 Dragon (Parts)
=> Arm = Dragon "Scales", Prot = Dragon "Claw", Gar = Dragon "Fire"
=> Some artists associate Dragon with snakes as "same family", maybe thats why D5 Prot has "Python" for its name.
D6 Snake (Parts)
D7 Tiger (PArts)
D8 Horse (Parts) <= it seems that Joymax merge it with Pegasus... wings (prot)...
D9 Pig (PArts) <= Joymax transform it into a Boar...
D10 Ox (Parts)
Whats left are the Dog (Wolves mix?) and Monkey (I wonder what mix we going to find here... Apeman or Gorilla? or maybe KING KONG?)? for D11 and D12? [Since Joymax mentioned there will only be 12 Degrees for items]
Link to this thread:
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=652873
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:34 pm
by XemnasXD
knredash wrote:And so its goes that the zodia for Chinese gear is a mixed? Key: Observe the "Hat" and "Shoulder" pattern, follow by the "Torso" with "Legs", and finally the "Hands" and "Feet"...
D1 Rat (Parts)
D2 Rabbit (Parts) <= Joymax throws in Hare elements into it... the "ears" are the "feeders"
D3 Rooster (Parts)
D4 Sheep (Parts)
D5 Dragon (Parts)
=> Arm = Dragon "Scales", Prot = Dragon "Claw", Gar = Dragon "Fire"
=> Some artists associate Dragon with snakes as "same family", maybe thats why D5 Prot has "Python" for its name.
D6 Snake (Parts)
D7 Tiger (PArts)
D8 Horse (Parts) <= it seems that Joymax merge it with Pegasus... wings (prot)...
D9 Pig (PArts) <= Joymax transform it into a Boar...
D10 Ox (Parts)
Whats left are the Dog (Wolves mix?) and Monkey (I wonder what mix we going to find here... Apeman or Gorilla? or maybe KING KONG?)? for D11 and D12? [Since Joymax mentioned there will only be 12 Degrees for items]
Link to this thread:
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=652873
I know that 6D is based of Dragon and 5D is based of snake....
Just look at 5D armor and Protector the Armor has snake bone themes and the protector clearly has Snake Skin theme...
and 6D has dragons all over it everything from the helmet to the chest piece
and this is basically a repeat of everything i posted anyway

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:56 pm
by HarshCargo
HakubiNi wrote:I would not trust Joymax's translation regarding equipment names.
Joymax never translated the game to English, it was another company which did it, They are to blame for poor translation not joymax.
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:37 pm
by XemnasXD
HarshCargo wrote:HakubiNi wrote:I would not trust Joymax's translation regarding equipment names.
Joymax never translated the game to English, it was another company which did it, They are to blame for poor translation not joymax.
yeah but JM hired them and then ok'd the translations that they gave.....so its still really JM fault
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:50 am
by knredash
3D= Rooster
4D= ram/sheep
5D=Snake
6D=Dragon
7D= Moneky (didn't know that before)
8D=Horse
9D=Boar
10D=Ox
U have monkey for yr 7D, after some fast compliation, taht is a mistake, Tiger is D7 theme.
Anyway, doesnt matter much, I only thinking of some KING KONG outfit for D12 Armour (most probably) and furry (read: HAIRY) D12 Garments for the chinese... that would be awesome

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:29 am
by Tokughavita
s0017 wrote:I still think 6D and 5D armors both represent the snake. Python Armor, Hard Scale armor.
hard scale = dragon scale imo.