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Y CHOOSE LIGHT , ICE IS MORE BETTER FOR STR BOW

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:34 am
by Hitman144
so is it better for a pure str bower to choose , ice/fire and lvl those 2

pacheon , ice , fire are the only things need to be lvled .

ok so basically i think people get light for the speed ( str in specific ) , ok bowers have long distance attks so we can do well without the ghostwalk if anyone trys to run away.

at low lvls it worth less to pvp so u dont need need ghost walk and grass walk at low lvls , and + u also dont need it while ur grinding , bow got distance so u can still do good. and when a bow is high lvl he does need speed. but assuming that all people usally have more than 20m at 50++, so y not just buy drug of wind and typoon for the speed. ice and fire can be 10x more better for a str rather than speed. ther always a horse to get around. and using drug of wind and typoon u can still do good in pvp.

other light skills such as piercing force , it increase ur magical damage( it says force class damage increase AKA Imbune ) , so str bowers dont really need magical power increase, they str they rely on CRITs.

concentration skill , increase parry ratio , basically another good skill , but i think u can substitute it with having 100% parry ratio blues on all ur gear .

so y ice is more important , nova frost can freeze lvl 80s now i seen it with my own eyes , and ice imbune can do that and combine the ice imbune with a arrow u got a long distance freezing probability arrow. and after u freeze him u can use fire imbune and kill ur victim with that .

ice shields give bowers better protections from physical damage, also the passive helps on that 2 .

fire u guys already know wat importance it has for a pure str so u guys i think for a pure str bow ice/fire is way more useful than light.

my opinion i think bowers shoul do 80pach , 80fire , 78ice , 32 light ( for grasswalk and ghost walk )

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:37 am
by Infstdraynor
Wait, wait, are you making a statement or a question? In the case that you're making a question, I would say light/fire/pach with 60 ice would do fine.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:41 am
by TOloseGT
u can drop fire imbue altogether. dmg between fire n ice is nominal, and use ice for that nifty freezing/cold probility all the time. combined wit kb/stun, ice archer will be pretty annoying <.<

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:44 am
by Hitman144
TOloseGT wrote:u can drop fire imbue altogether. dmg between fire n ice is nominal, and use ice for that nifty freezing/cold probility all the time. combined wit kb/stun, ice archer will be pretty annoying <.<


no no no , fire is very important , fire shield increase magical defense , and more use

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:47 am
by TOloseGT
i was talking about fire imbue only. the rest of the tree is still a must.

however, using drug of wind will lose it's effectiveness when grass walks get up to 80-90% speed. and with phantom, u'll have a hard time catching, or running away from ppl.

Re: Y CHOOSE LIGHT , ICE IS MORE BETTER FOR STR BOW

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:49 am
by Nenhunter
hitman144 wrote:concentration skill , increase parry ratio , basically another good skill , but i think u can substitute it with having 100% parry ratio blues on all ur gear ( including jewelry).


don't really know about str builds cuz i never really played one pass lvl 40 ^^

but u can't add parry increase to jewelry. :)

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:55 am
by Hitman144
TOloseGT wrote:i was talking about fire imbue only. the rest of the tree is still a must.

however, using drug of wind will lose it's effectiveness when grass walks get up to 80-90% speed. and with phantom, u'll have a hard time catching, or running away from ppl.


true thats y u will use ice skill nova frost and ice imbune can stop ur victim , at more cap lvl u will get more distance increase on the bow skills. so it totaly more useful,

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:56 am
by DarkJackal
All you can do with ice right now is be a little stronger having more phys def and mana shield, other then that, what? the imbue is useless and unless they do something about it, theres no other reason to get ice anymore.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:03 am
by Temptation
I have ice because I'm going full int till 32, then str from then on. It keeps me from dying, so ice, IMO, is worth it in lower levels, then should be stopped from expansion or completely dropped at cap.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:08 am
by Sylhana
Go with what you like :D

All mastery trees has its own +s and -s. If you feel strongly that ice helps (and it does, just that the effects can be negated thru alchemy) then I say stick with it :)

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:18 am
by LittleTom
My build : 2:1 Str Hybrid/Force/Fire/Cold/Bow

I'm really enjoying it. even if ice isn't the best for pvp its still fun in PVE. And hey, they might decide to get rid of immunity ( im probably wrong, i just heard there wasnt immunity in kSRO) and then cold will be good in PvE and PvP. And pluss the ice defence buff looks smexy at the higher levels lol :P

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:55 am
by Hitman144
LittleTom wrote:My build : 2:1 Str Hybrid/Force/Fire/Cold/Bow

I'm really enjoying it. even if ice isn't the best for pvp its still fun in PVE. And hey, they might decide to get rid of immunity ( im probably wrong, i just heard there wasnt immunity in kSRO) and then cold will be good in PvE and PvP. And pluss the ice defence buff looks smexy at the higher levels lol :P


extremely sexy =)

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:02 am
by MrFudge
32 light? you won't be able to kill anyone while jobbing, theyll just run away from you.

you think you're gonna kill everyone 1 shot? 1 shot is all you get til they phantom out of range, and well built int's will survive a crit.

imagine how you'll feel as a lvl 80 bower who can't kill a lvl 64 STR cuz they just outran you, thats sad.

and drug of typhoon my ass, you'll be okay using it for a couple days then you wont even wanna go jobbing cuz that shit gets expensive.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:10 am
by FliiipZ
Why 32 light?

Why not 80 pacheon 80 ice 80 fire 60 light = 300/300
Thats what im doing

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:54 am
by CobbZ
Are you an idiot?

Phantom for bowmen is NOT to catch up.

ITs to get away to be able to fire up a new bow attack.


:|

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:37 am
by robustica
my bow will go pacheon/fire/light 80 ice 60, imo grass / phantom walk is a must for a bow :)

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:51 am
by HertogJan
Before I got the kb and stun arrows I wasnt able to survive a decent pvp fight without the pw. Now I have those arrows I am using it lesser since I dont have to pw away to pot up anymore, but still I wouldnt delevel it so I can get cold up =|

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:03 am
by Grimjaw
The lack of grammar these days is making my eyes bleed.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:19 am
by tedtwilliger
Grimjaw wrote:The lack of grammar these days is making my eyes bleed.


+1 Terrible English is terrible. Lolz the irony.

Now, if you have light at 32, you will get owned by life. Simple fact. Have fun trying to catch up to someone running away from you. And why does a pure str bower of all people want ice.? They have LOTS of hp, they have RANGE.. in pve you kill everything before it gets to you. In pvp ice has become null as immunity is easy to get. GG ice.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:20 am
by Snudge
BECKUZ ZE KAPS IN ZE TOPICS TITLEZ IES L'ORRIBLE!

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:11 pm
by NuclearSilo
Ice imbue is only good against euro.

Later:
Ice imbue + combo 7 + combo 6 + combo 5 = KB 100% + freeze 100% :twisted:

Light is a must but u dont really need ghost walk coz with KB none of them are able to approach a bower for more than 5s.

Long time ago, i made a thread explained that most skill of lightning can be covered with item mall stuffs.

strigger scroll (+hit/parry) (concentration) <--- i still have a lot from event, pm me if u need, 100k each
typhoon drug (+speed) (grass walk series)
damage scroll (+phy/mag dmg) (flame body/piercing force)
resistance scroll (+phy/mag absorption) (against pure str/pure int, it works like 1st book of mana shield, againts hybrid it works like 3rd book)
+500 HP scroll (passive heuksal 5th level)
premium ticket (+5% phy/mag dmg, absortion, hit/parry)

With all of these, a pure int can be a tanker! And a pure str can be a nuker...kidding :oops:

Your dream to be the strongest player would become true if u listen to me :D

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:00 pm
by juza
Grimjaw wrote:The lack of grammar these days is making my eyes bleed.


as far as i KNEOW this is international forum.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:04 pm
by Criterion-
All imbues suck besides fire, unless your a blade, inwhich cold is slightly useful.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:38 pm
by DarkJackal
NuclearSilo wrote:Ice imbue is only good against euro.

Later:
Ice imbue + combo 7 + combo 6 + combo 5 = KB 100% + freeze 100% :twisted:

Light is a must but u dont really need ghost walk coz with KB none of them are able to approach a bower for more than 5s.

Long time ago, i made a thread explained that most skill of lightning can be covered with item mall stuffs.

strigger scroll (+hit/parry) (concentration) <--- i still have a lot from event, pm me if u need, 100k each
typhoon drug (+speed) (grass walk series)
damage scroll (+phy/mag dmg) (flame body/piercing force)
resistance scroll (+phy/mag absorption) (against pure str/pure int, it works like 1st book of mana shield, againts hybrid it works like 3rd book)
+500 HP scroll (passive heuksal 5th level)
premium ticket (+5% phy/mag dmg, absortion, hit/parry)

With all of these, a pure int can be a tanker! And a pure str can be a nuker...kidding :oops:

Your dream to be the strongest player would become true if u listen to me :D

but if they have a cleric that wont really work, the cleric is like a super fire shield or something =.= lol