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think that now every nuker will use ice for snow shield ( or lets call it on his real name : Energy Shield from Diablo 2 )
And this will mean that pure ints now have their mana as hp, so they have enormous amount of hp, and not to leave out: they can pot with two kind of "HP pot" i know at lvl20 it's only 20% abs, but on lvl80 its 50% !!

This will make pure ints a lot of stronger, and pure str won't be able to kill anything

Bowmen will be their weakness. With all the knockbacks, criticals, ect, they will keep them at bay long enough for it to wear off, then they're screwed.

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[quote="Kori0129"]think that now every nuker will use ice for snow shield ( or lets call it on his real name : Energy Shield from Diablo 2 )
And this will mean that pure ints now have their mana as hp, so they have enormous amount of hp, and not to leave out: they can pot with two kind of "HP pot" i know at lvl20 it's only 20% abs, but on lvl80 its 50% !!

This will make pure ints a lot of stronger, and pure str won't be able to kill anything [/quote]

STR Use the Mana Shield too,after the mana shield is over,int gonna die.

Bobby_Rock wrote:Bowmen will be their weakness. With all the knockbacks, criticals, ect, they will keep them at bay long enough for it to wear off, then they're screwed.

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But only after lvl70 :S

Bobby_Rock wrote:Bowmen will be their weakness. With all the knockbacks, criticals, ect, they will keep them at bay long enough for it to wear off, then they're screwed.

Ect

dude, if u wanna play range, we will just spam nukes, and u will die

g0d wrote:

Kori0129 wrote:think that now every nuker will use ice for snow shield ( or lets call it on his real name : Energy Shield from Diablo 2 )
And this will mean that pure ints now have their mana as hp, so they have enormous amount of hp, and not to leave out: they can pot with two kind of "HP pot" i know at lvl20 it's only 20% abs, but on lvl80 its 50% !!

This will make pure ints a lot of stronger, and pure str won't be able to kill anything

STR Use the Mana Shield too,after the mana shield is over,int gonna die.

But pure str have around no mana xD, and pure str doesnt use ice :S
And when the mana shield is over, the str is already dead :S

Edit: not to leave out: do you think that you can stay alive against a nuker for 2 minutes?

srfer wrote:

Bobby_Rock wrote:Bowmen will be their weakness. With all the knockbacks, criticals, ect, they will keep them at bay long enough for it to wear off, then they're screwed.

Ect

dude, if u wanna play range, we will just spam nukes, and u will die

Aww, but then you'll be taking constant damage, and no knockdowns.. Wow, Constant damage + no knock downs = no mana... uh oh, would suck to run out of mana halfway through a nuke eh?

srfer wrote:dude, if u wanna play range, we will just spam nukes, and u will die

Let's say you need three consecutive nukes to hit to kill a bowman. You think you're going to get about 15 seconds without getting frozen, stunned, or knockbacked (which requires you to run closer before you can start attacking)? As long as the bower is using pots well, and continually comboing and criting, there's a very good chance he'll survive the two minutes, and then all he has to do is crit.

I dun have too much trouble with bowmen... Their stun is nothing to fret over, the only nuisance is their knockback arrow and that doesn't do all that much anyways. Their damage is high, but takes longer to dish out so my mana doesn't run out. **** nuking too, I just spam sss and sse on them. Stun them half of the time and they'll be doing both shit damage to me and won't get most of their attacks off.

Devotia wrote:

srfer wrote:dude, if u wanna play range, we will just spam nukes, and u will die

Let's say you need three consecutive nukes to hit to kill a bowman. You think you're going to get about 15 seconds without getting frozen, stunned, or knockbacked (which requires you to run closer before you can start attacking)? As long as the bower is using pots well, and continually comboing and criting, there's a very good chance he'll survive the two minutes, and then all he has to do is crit.

dude, with x-large pots we dont run out of mana, and i got giant shield waiting after my snow shield fades

all i need to do is get 3 nukes on him, and hes dead.

and it isnt hard for me to phantom step and kd him. then nuke.

On my 80 hybird s/s int i can tank 2 glaviers with my buff on, yeah i have some problems with str bow i think knock back is the worst ever they do it like 90% of the time it gets annoying i suppose but still cant kill me 1 vs 1 with my buff on.

with the new update I can figure out the top builds

1- Pure Int With sword (( Lighting Chain + Snow Shield = Owned ))

2- Pure Str Bow (( Stunn + knock back ))

3- Pure Str Blader (( Lighting chain ))

cant remember number 4

You see, gaymax can fack up the whole game by adding a strong buff to a never used skill tree

its true...i really wanted fire but now i'll prolly drop it for ice

Just make sure to increase the mp auto pot %; I'm pure int and I actually ran out of mp; it was the scariest 3 seconds of my life until it pot back up! At least this goes to show that pure str CANNOT benefit from this skill due to low mp.

am i the only one that constantly runs out of mp with that skill on? >_>

Im pure int, i only have the 40% one, and i tanked 4 glaviers. Of course i couldent attack back due to my mana running low.

wait your saying that when someone uses snow sheild, when someone attacks them. it takes the damage of there mp? :S

Kori0129 wrote:You see, gaymax can fack up the whole game by adding a strong buff to a never used skill tree

this game is planned to be 150cap.

Ice tree had the phy defense buff, mp increase passive. The imbue is weaker as are the nukes.

The fire tree has had phy dmg increase and a buff againts magics attacks. the imbue is stronger as are all skills in this tree.

So by adding the mana shield to the ice tree is logical since they seem to have made the ice tree for ints, and the fire tree for the strs.(the fire nuke being stronger is the only odd ball to my logic. ) And with that logic does that mean bows should be light?

With mana shield here now, do you think a 150 pure int will be ice and light?? they wil have the mana buff, and magic % increase, grasswalk, but no dissabling moves?

Makes me wonder sometimes.

My two cents...flame away.

Krysis wrote:wait your saying that when someone uses snow sheild, when someone attacks them. it takes the damage of there mp? :S

Ya, a % of the overall dmg comes off the mp.

Snow shield should be a force skill....what its really called mana shield. It made all str build horrible.

you know how much silk ppl are using to change fire mastery to ice buying pots that save 100% of the sp...more money for JM...wait for a cap raise or 2 and fire will get the uber addition of some new move or buff and everyone will have to switch back...lol

they still cant beat pure str bow lol.

20-25% mana shield on and spam knockback.
not too hard to get past those 2 minutes, then nukers die even if you spam nukes.

BEFORE skills update, sword/shield dominated pure str bow cuz of castle shield . nothin to stop the nukes from comin back then.

MrFudge wrote:they still cant beat pure str bow lol.

20-25% mana shield on and spam knockback.
not too hard to get past those 2 minutes, then nukers die even if you spam nukes.

BEFORE skills update, sword/shield dominated pure str bow cuz of castle shield . nothin to stop the nukes from comin back then.

Fudge can you say that when you get past 70? No offense but you always provide nonsense stuff about the cap.

You conveniently forget about other skills. Nukers can kd, stun , kb , or spam force tree on a bower, which in turn will end the bowers life in 3 nukes.

lightning chain,kd,ironwall makes the int survive that minute

and if a pure int can't kill a bower then who can ?O.o bows pwn everibody rofl
you tottaly overestimate your build but thats normal..

HYB BOW = death for nukers

caseyd4 wrote:HYB BOW = death for nukers

HYB BOW = potfight :/

soxdrop wrote:lightning chain,kd,ironwall makes the int survive that minute

and if a pure int can't kill a bower then who can ?O.o bows pwn everibody rofl
you tottaly overestimate your build but thats normal..

i know lmao

I start mana after he starts I never had a problem killing nukers upto +6 my level before update and its got a whole lot easier for bows imo

emm fudge i sent you and ellis pms if you could kindly reply