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is rouge a good class?

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:31 am
by labarada
i plan to be a rouge and i was wondering if it is a good choice. can someone give me a little detail on them please?

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:14 am
by Nitoh
Dagger Rogues: The fastest weapons in game, And at cap They pretty much one hit everything/ everyone in pvp if you crit. Also, If you have a weapon that is 15+ crit, you will crit once every 3-6 hits. So, its insane damage.Especially When you have Dagger Desperate on.

Xbow Rogues: VERY VERY long range. They can pretty much 1 hit anything at their level if they are built correctly, and if they have the right weapon. They are also VERY good in pvp especially with their knock backs and knock downs. You Barely get hurt, unless your the tanker, which is not likely.


You choose.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:34 am
by labarada
thank you very much that was quit helpful im glad you told me this before i ruined my charecter, much thanks

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:44 am
by Ze_ToKiN
yea u can make masks and sell em for 500k+ quick in DW..I get rich pretty fast..

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:12 am
by MrLonely
Nitoh wrote:Dagger Rogues: The fastest weapons in game, And at cap They pretty much one hit everything/ everyone in pvp if you crit. Also, If you have a weapon that is 15+ crit, you will crit once every 3-6 hits. So, its insane damage.Especially When you have Dagger Desperate on.


Remember that you 1hit anyone if you get crit and your buff is activated(that one which increases damage, but decreases def by huge numbers), but anything/anyone can 1 hit knock you out also, cause your defense at that point is shit

Thats just to make clear for players that haven't played rogue, don't think guys that rogue is ultimate damage dealer and in the same time tanker

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:29 am
by Chromis
MrLonely wrote:Thats just to make clear for players that haven't played rogue, don't think guys that rogue is ultimate damage dealer and in the same time tanker


+1 to that

You'll be hitting a lot less on mobs at low levels (Less than 30 ish) where you don't have many skills and buffs.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:30 am
by sheeplol5
only once level 20 is there acctually a point of being rouge. the 1 hit K0's

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:33 am
by Juey
Is rogue a good class?
That is like asking: Which class is the best. Which subclass should I select.
I'm telling you Rouge sucks, make a pure strength Wizard, and a pure int warrior as subclass. Now do it! Surrender your mind, don't think just do it!

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:38 am
by Sethzor
im playing rogue and its awesome i play crossbow (but npc weap) so when mob come close to me i change to daggers and bash them :D <3rogue

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:40 am
by MrFudge
yea for pvp, for parties no thx ill pass.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:43 am
by DrunkiMunki
i made a rogue, not minding all the people who said it suck.

Very happy with it so far, almost lvl 24 :)

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:43 am
by Biscuit
MrFudge wrote:yea for pvp, for parties no thx ill pass.


Wait! I hope you don't want to imply that a dagger rogue can't take as much damage as a buffed up warrior. That's preposterous!

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:44 am
by MrFudge
Biscuit wrote:
MrFudge wrote:yea for pvp, for parties no thx ill pass.


Wait! I hope you don't want to imply that a dagger rogue can't take as much damage as a buffed up warrior. That's preposterous!


yup im implying id rather have a warrior up there or a wizard out back.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:48 am
by Tribe_Rock
Juey wrote:Is rogue a good class?
That is like asking: Which class is the best. Which subclass should I select.
I'm telling you Rouge sucks, make a pure strength Wizard, and a pure int warrior as subclass. Now do it! Surrender your mind, don't think just do it!


lol

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:05 pm
by soxdrop
anybody knows how can i use more skills than the default while i am transformed into a mob ?O.o

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:10 pm
by babyiloveu
after killing a mob, use mask skill and a mask will appear in your inventory :?:

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:45 pm
by Irritated
i have a 27 rogue dagger and the damage isn't as high as i would like but if you use the 75% increase buff the damage can be pretty high. Not only that but i got a dagger with crit 14 and it was only 47%, that means 100% crit has to be like 25.

I think it will be alot more fun when i get invisibility at 30. (woot can't wait to make earth ghosts masks)

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:54 pm
by GaS
No they are a terrible class. Joymax was just being an ass and put them as a lame class so when a person gets the rogue to the level cap they re roll another class because the rogue suck hence forcing them to buy a premium ticket.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:35 pm
by MonstaH
Rouge rogues ... would look funny I guess.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:48 pm
by Stompy
Good Class. Fun to play. At level 30 oyu get stealth, really neat skill, good way to go through a HUGE mob and not be detected.

If you like to get in quick and kill, its the class for you.


But they really dont tank to well, unless you got a good cleric

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:55 pm
by Tigerlein
Stompy wrote:Good Class. Fun to play. At level 30 oyu get stealth, really neat skill, good way to go through a HUGE mob and not be detected.

If you like to get in quick and kill, its the class for you.


But they really dont tank to well, unless you got a good cleric


WTF u talking bout crossbow tank 100 times more then dagger.It has incredible damage...live with it or die!!!! :twisted:

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:01 pm
by Stompy
Tigerlein wrote:
Stompy wrote:Good Class. Fun to play. At level 30 oyu get stealth, really neat skill, good way to go through a HUGE mob and not be detected.

If you like to get in quick and kill, its the class for you.


But they really dont tank to well, unless you got a good cleric


WTF u talking bout crossbow tank 100 times more then dagger.It has incredible damage...live with it or die!!!! :twisted:



What i am saying is that if you get mobbed by 3 mobs you better have a good cleric, because wiht light armor, lots of damage.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:04 pm
by MrFudge
wizards can get stealth too....

and they do more damage. another reason id get a wiz over a rogue in a pt.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:19 pm
by Nitoh
Tigerlein wrote:
Stompy wrote:Good Class. Fun to play. At level 30 oyu get stealth, really neat skill, good way to go through a HUGE mob and not be detected.

If you like to get in quick and kill, its the class for you.


But they really dont tank to well, unless you got a good cleric


WTF u talking bout crossbow tank 100 times more then dagger.It has incredible damage...live with it or die!!!! :twisted:


Uhm.. Wth are YOU talking about? daggers tank better than crossbow rogues, because, monsters pretty much one or two hit kill you when you have crossbow extreme on because it decreases 50% of your hp, while Dagger Desperate only decreases your physical and magical deffence by 75%. Xbow rogues hit 300-500 more damage than dagger rogues in ONE hit. But if it was most damage in 3 or more hits, Daggers would over power Xbows by quite a lot, especially when Daggers hit faster than Xbows. Also, when they are capped, I think the both do pretty much the same damage in one hit,if the damage of their weapons are the same. But Daggers still hit faster than Xbows.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:47 pm
by Tigerlein
Nitoh wrote:
Tigerlein wrote:
Stompy wrote:Good Class. Fun to play. At level 30 oyu get stealth, really neat skill, good way to go through a HUGE mob and not be detected.

If you like to get in quick and kill, its the class for you.


But they really dont tank to well, unless you got a good cleric


WTF u talking bout crossbow tank 100 times more then dagger.It has incredible damage...live with it or die!!!! :twisted:


Uhm.. Wth are YOU talking about? daggers tank better than crossbow rogues, because, monsters pretty much one or two hit kill you when you have crossbow extreme on because it decreases 50% of your hp, while Dagger Desperate only decreases your physical and magical deffence by 75%. Xbow rogues hit 300-500 more damage than dagger rogues in ONE hit. But if it was most damage in 3 or more hits, Daggers would over power Xbows by quite a lot, especially when Daggers hit faster than Xbows. Also, when they are capped, I think the both do pretty much the same damage in one hit,if the damage of their weapons are the same. But Daggers still hit faster than Xbows.


Ur dumb...lvl rogue and dagger to lvl 20 and see...but nah even if u know u wont tell....Cuz u wont say ur wrong akakak :twisted:

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:07 pm
by Nitoh
Tigerlein wrote:
Nitoh wrote:
Tigerlein wrote:
Stompy wrote:Good Class. Fun to play. At level 30 oyu get stealth, really neat skill, good way to go through a HUGE mob and not be detected.

If you like to get in quick and kill, its the class for you.


But they really dont tank to well, unless you got a good cleric


WTF u talking bout crossbow tank 100 times more then dagger.It has incredible damage...live with it or die!!!! :twisted:


Uhm.. Wth are YOU talking about? daggers tank better than crossbow rogues, because, monsters pretty much one or two hit kill you when you have crossbow extreme on because it decreases 50% of your hp, while Dagger Desperate only decreases your physical and magical deffence by 75%. Xbow rogues hit 300-500 more damage than dagger rogues in ONE hit. But if it was most damage in 3 or more hits, Daggers would over power Xbows by quite a lot, especially when Daggers hit faster than Xbows. Also, when they are capped, I think the both do pretty much the same damage in one hit,if the damage of their weapons are the same. But Daggers still hit faster than Xbows.


Ur dumb...lvl rogue and dagger to lvl 20 and see...but nah even if u know u wont tell....Cuz u wont say ur wrong akakak :twisted:


...Dude I bet you never even tryed a rogue to level 20+, and I have. At level 20, I had 1.4k hp. So if your crossbow, and uses crossbow extrme, you would have 700. while Dagger rogues hp stays at 1.4k So there is no way Crossbow rogues can tank better than Dagger rogues.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:07 pm
by Nitoh
Woops. Double post, the forums was lagging. So I didn't know if I posted or not.

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:21 pm
by Doron
I'll just do it easy.. startup a sworder, a rogue, a wizzy and a bard...

think i'm deffinetly going to make my best the bard, but meybe the wizz too... I dunno.. I'll see it when the game finally is ready with downloading...¬.¬

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:28 pm
by Tigerlein
Nitoh wrote:
Tigerlein wrote:
Nitoh wrote:
Tigerlein wrote:
Stompy wrote:Good Class. Fun to play. At level 30 oyu get stealth, really neat skill, good way to go through a HUGE mob and not be detected.

If you like to get in quick and kill, its the class for you.


But they really dont tank to well, unless you got a good cleric


WTF u talking bout crossbow tank 100 times more then dagger.It has incredible damage...live with it or die!!!! :twisted:


Uhm.. Wth are YOU talking about? daggers tank better than crossbow rogues, because, monsters pretty much one or two hit kill you when you have crossbow extreme on because it decreases 50% of your hp, while Dagger Desperate only decreases your physical and magical deffence by 75%. Xbow rogues hit 300-500 more damage than dagger rogues in ONE hit. But if it was most damage in 3 or more hits, Daggers would over power Xbows by quite a lot, especially when Daggers hit faster than Xbows. Also, when they are capped, I think the both do pretty much the same damage in one hit,if the damage of their weapons are the same. But Daggers still hit faster than Xbows.


Ur dumb...lvl rogue and dagger to lvl 20 and see...but nah even if u know u wont tell....Cuz u wont say ur wrong akakak :twisted:


...Dude I bet you never even tryed a rogue to level 20+, and I have. At level 20, I had 1.4k hp. So if your crossbow, and uses crossbow extrme, you would have 700. while Dagger rogues hp stays at 1.4k So there is no way Crossbow rogues can tank better than Dagger rogues.


i have rogue lvl 23...nub

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:35 pm
by Nitoh
Tigerlein wrote:
Nitoh wrote:
Tigerlein wrote:
Nitoh wrote:
Tigerlein wrote:
Stompy wrote:Good Class. Fun to play. At level 30 oyu get stealth, really neat skill, good way to go through a HUGE mob and not be detected.

If you like to get in quick and kill, its the class for you.


But they really dont tank to well, unless you got a good cleric


WTF u talking bout crossbow tank 100 times more then dagger.It has incredible damage...live with it or die!!!! :twisted:


Uhm.. Wth are YOU talking about? daggers tank better than crossbow rogues, because, monsters pretty much one or two hit kill you when you have crossbow extreme on because it decreases 50% of your hp, while Dagger Desperate only decreases your physical and magical deffence by 75%. Xbow rogues hit 300-500 more damage than dagger rogues in ONE hit. But if it was most damage in 3 or more hits, Daggers would over power Xbows by quite a lot, especially when Daggers hit faster than Xbows. Also, when they are capped, I think the both do pretty much the same damage in one hit,if the damage of their weapons are the same. But Daggers still hit faster than Xbows.


Ur dumb...lvl rogue and dagger to lvl 20 and see...but nah even if u know u wont tell....Cuz u wont say ur wrong akakak :twisted:


...Dude I bet you never even tryed a rogue to level 20+, and I have. At level 20, I had 1.4k hp. So if your crossbow, and uses crossbow extrme, you would have 700. while Dagger rogues hp stays at 1.4k So there is no way Crossbow rogues can tank better than Dagger rogues.


i have rogue lvl 23...nub


Well then you should know that the crossbow extreme skill decreases 50% of your HP, and if you thought long enough, the person with more hp will tank longer. -.- It's kind of common sence. Also, I don't want to flame any longer. Because it is against the forum rules.