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Botters can use botted accounts. Fair to legitimates?
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:05 pm
by uBeR
Joymax recently blocked the use of illegal clients, which is a step in the right direction. However, one knows from experience that simply patching clients is not a solution towards stopping botters. Joymax has allowed those who botted their characters to continue playing on the same characters, so long as they use a clean client. However, is this fair to the players who have been playing legitimately the entire time?
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:06 pm
by DarkJackal
Hell no it's not fair, its bs lol.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:13 pm
by ZeFrog
Well...it may very well be the only compromise available....
JM was very smart about it..no bans = no charge backs...players keep their chars...but no botting...
I'd find it an acceptable sacrifice *if* botting was discontinued...
But, no...its not particularly fair....
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:15 pm
by _Lana_
Hershey wrote:DarkJackal wrote:Hell no it's not fair, its bs lol.
+1billion
what i would give to see those lvl 80 sosun botters get banned....
Double at that..... But whit or whit out the block... there are still the lv 80 SoSn players which boted.....
I would give anything to do an 2 star and not being killed by an lv 80 whit an SoSun wep....
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:16 pm
by LadyOphelia
It's not fair.. because by not banning botters in a prompt strict and enforced way JM is showing the community that botting can be done with ease and with little worry, thus allowing the bot situation to spread rampantly like a disease. Once again Bots = Cancer.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:17 pm
by BuddahBless
New tbot version is out. O_O
Damn. :< Now it's only a matter of time before the others catch up.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:25 pm
by _Lana_
They say that every 2 hours on globals and the servers are still populated... Maybe they still didnt find out where will they find new places for dl... So its better to not post links of places where you can get bots.... (Its also against the forum rules)
Well i was happy this morning..... But now i know its going to be only an short time...... *Sigh*
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:29 pm
by PR0METHEUS
ZeFrog wrote:Well...it may very well be the only compromise available....
JM was very smart about it..no bans = no charge backs...players keep their chars...but no botting...
I'd find it an acceptable sacrifice *if* botting was discontinued...
But, no...its not particularly fair....
I do have to agree here. Maybe instead of banning the lvl 80 sun botters, strip their accounts clean, delete their inventory, storage, gold, just leave a naked lvl 80 player standing in hotan. Make those botters have to buy equipment in the messed up economy they helped create. After all, the botters wouldn't have all that uber-fancy equipment if they weren't botting.
Joymax would have to do something about gold buyers as well.....
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:32 pm
by _Shinigami_
no its not fair! i wish the Huge Botting Inspection was a suprise so botters couldnt prepare themselves.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:33 pm
by uBeR
There was nothing to prepare for. Nothing happened to them.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:40 pm
by Carnophage
Hooray for the temporary solution!
And no it will never be fair.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:48 pm
by im_a_bot
would you rather have bots making tons of new accts or bots stopping being bots and just being players
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:49 pm
by BlackFox
Why not be happy when they do something all is happy over .But now again complaine over some blah.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:14 pm
by ln
ZeFrog wrote:JM was very smart about it..no bans = no charge backs...players keep their chars...but no botting...
not that smart ... for botters, if they cant bot, why cant they charge back still? just ban them ... no brainer. once majority legits, and stays that way for a while, more legits will start spending on silks again.
dun forget that many silk buying botters were once legits.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:14 pm
by soxdrop
do you really think joymax stopped botting by this weak attempt ?:D
crazy people
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:39 pm
by ZeFrog
ln wrote:ZeFrog wrote:JM was very smart about it..no bans = no charge backs...players keep their chars...but no botting...
not that smart ... for botters, if they cant bot, why cant they charge back still? just ban them ... no brainer. once majority legits, and stays that way for a while, more legits will start spending on silks again.
dun forget that many silk buying botters were once legits.
Because they'd would definitely be banned if they charged back, this would be JM giving them the opportunity to clean up themselves...Which would be less of a hassle for JM to deal with then if they banned several hundred or a thousand (hypothetically) and had to deal with all the charge backs for it...
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:18 pm
by Nyahgis
If you ban all the botters in SRO, you loose a rediculous amount of silk buyers, and I doubt many would come back to the game if they had to start all over. The "Legits" wouldn't cover this loss all too quickly and thus JM would loose a shitton of money. Easy solution: stop the botters from being able to bot, thus keeping the majority of the silk buyers in the game. Whether or not this is fair or not isn't something you have much to whine about... JM stopped the botters [well... attempted, we'll see how it goes in about 2 weeks], the grinding spots are better now, and the economy should settle down a bit again. Just give it sometime... once the 90 cap comes around, and this solution ends up being permanent [which I doubt], you'll have to start on a "clean" slate for the race to lvl 90.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:24 pm
by Pawnage
Hershey wrote:DarkJackal wrote:Hell no it's not fair, its bs lol.
+1billion
what i would give to see those lvl 80 sosun botters get banned....
especially on Greece
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:25 pm
by RuYi
It's not fair of course, but I'm glad they took a step in the right direction.
However, how long will it be like this?
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:32 pm
by Itonami
They need to update this 6+ times a month at random for it to matter much at all. Make it annoying to reinstall a new bot client over and over and maybe some people will actually stop?
Even though I'm not a supporter of bots, and HATE getting ksed and talked down to by people who didn't actually play their chars 100% of the time.. I have a lot of capped friends who did bot, and i'd be sad to see them go.
[Edit by Soda - No need for names] so on. =/
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:41 pm
by Zero_Doom
Nyahgis wrote:If you ban all the botters in SRO, you loose a rediculous amount of silk buyers, and I doubt many would come back to the game if they had to start all over. The "Legits" wouldn't cover this loss all too quickly and thus JM would loose a shitton of money. Easy solution: stop the botters from being able to bot, thus keeping the majority of the silk buyers in the game. Whether or not this is fair or not isn't something you have much to whine about... JM stopped the botters [well... attempted, we'll see how it goes in about 2 weeks], the grinding spots are better now, and the economy should settle down a bit again. Just give it sometime... once the 90 cap comes around, and this solution ends up being permanent [which I doubt], you'll have to start on a "clean" slate for the race to lvl 90.
Bet your feeling pretty lucky they didn't ban all the lvl 80 botters, eh? At least you made it to 80 before you had to start grinding yourself, right?
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:44 pm
by Itonami
Zero_Doom wrote:Nyahgis wrote:If you ban all the botters in SRO, you loose a rediculous amount of silk buyers, and I doubt many would come back to the game if they had to start all over. The "Legits" wouldn't cover this loss all too quickly and thus JM would loose a shitton of money. Easy solution: stop the botters from being able to bot, thus keeping the majority of the silk buyers in the game. Whether or not this is fair or not isn't something you have much to whine about... JM stopped the botters [well... attempted, we'll see how it goes in about 2 weeks], the grinding spots are better now, and the economy should settle down a bit again. Just give it sometime... once the 90 cap comes around, and this solution ends up being permanent [which I doubt], you'll have to start on a "clean" slate for the race to lvl 90.
Bet your feeling pretty lucky they didn't ban all the lvl 80 botters, eh? At least you made it to 80 before you had to start grinding yourself, right?
And what are you basing that question on? I'm not really seeing anything in his post that hints at him being non-legit.
Provoking flames will get you eaten alive by a mod. Might want to.. you know.. not do it.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:57 pm
by Zero_Doom
[NF]Itonami wrote:Zero_Doom wrote:Nyahgis wrote:If you ban all the botters in SRO, you loose a rediculous amount of silk buyers, and I doubt many would come back to the game if they had to start all over. The "Legits" wouldn't cover this loss all too quickly and thus JM would loose a shitton of money. Easy solution: stop the botters from being able to bot, thus keeping the majority of the silk buyers in the game. Whether or not this is fair or not isn't something you have much to whine about... JM stopped the botters [well... attempted, we'll see how it goes in about 2 weeks], the grinding spots are better now, and the economy should settle down a bit again. Just give it sometime... once the 90 cap comes around, and this solution ends up being permanent [which I doubt], you'll have to start on a "clean" slate for the race to lvl 90.
Bet your feeling pretty lucky they didn't ban all the lvl 80 botters, eh? At least you made it to 80 before you had to start grinding yourself, right?
And what are you basing that question on? I'm not really seeing anything in his post that hints at him being non-legit.
Provoking flames will get you eaten alive by a mod. Might want to.. you know.. not do it.
Um, well I do actually play on the server, and wander around talkamakan all the time. Believe it or not, I have seen Nyahgis the great following spot to spot that all the other high lvl bots hit. ^____^ So whether I am flamed by mods on here or not, we both know the truth. ^____^
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:37 pm
by HakubiNi
For God's sake people, can't you
read?
Hello. This is Silkroad Online.
A patch regarding [ Bot & Hacked Client Block ] has been applied in order to create a clean gaming environment.
As this patch has been applied to wipe out bot programs and hacked clients, legitimate users using normal clients will not experience any problems logging on to the game. However, users that use abnormal or hacked clients & bot programs may only log on to the game by installing an unaltered normal client that has been newly downloaded.
After the application of this patch, we will wipe out any bot & hacked client users.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:49 pm
by Fly
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:49 pm
by EsQuiRe
Nyahgis wrote:If you ban all the botters in SRO, you loose a rediculous amount of silk buyers, and I doubt many would come back to the game if they had to start all over. The "Legits" wouldn't cover this loss all too quickly and thus JM would loose a shitton of money. Easy solution: stop the botters from being able to bot, thus keeping the majority of the silk buyers in the game. Whether or not this is fair or not isn't something you have much to whine about... JM stopped the botters [well... attempted, we'll see how it goes in about 2 weeks], the grinding spots are better now, and the economy should settle down a bit again. Just give it sometime... once the 90 cap comes around, and this solution ends up being permanent [which I doubt], you'll have to start on a "clean" slate for the race to lvl 90.
well said...at least someone knows what they are talking bout
and Zero_Doom way to ruin a perfectly good thread...u are of teh sucks
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by uBeR
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:24 am
by PreetyGirl
well botters will answer yes it's fair and the other players will say hell no is not fair...but taking into account that the botters buy premium ticket and many other item mall stuff joymax can get rid of them because the botters are the main source of income....this i think is just a compromise between botters and sro and untill the boot program will be updated we will be able to play clean and the prices will be lower...but this wont take long because some are bot addicted and thy will do anything necessary to use that prgram again and level up faster and easier...
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:20 am
by [SD]Twysta
DarkJackal wrote:Hell no it's not fair, its bs lol.