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Why can we talk about pk2editor, but not bot software?
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:48 pm
by E40
Why can we talk in detail how to pk2 with the hex editor but now bot software? Both situations require changing code of the software that is not allowed by JM. It seems that if you can talk about one you should be able to talk about the other.
What is the differnece?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:49 pm
by im_a_bot
anything that chainges the original download of silkroad will get all your account s banned
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:50 pm
by Sharp324
Bots directly affect the client
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:51 pm
by im_a_bot
oops double posted
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:58 pm
by _Shinigami_
bots are not allowed and this is kinda supporting bots.
which is against the Forum Rules.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:12 pm
by Quyxz
With botting you destroy the 'smooth' gaming experience from other players. With PK2-editting, you don't hurt anyone, except of yourself if you destroy your client.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:12 pm
by sama98b
-ppl using bots screwing up gameplay for everyone.
-ppl pk2 editing changing the look only at their own pc, it's not changing anything anywhere else.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:15 pm
by DarkJackal
You don't see a difference between visual changes only to you and cheating in the game efecting everyone? >.>.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:17 pm
by NuclearSilo
Didnt u notice that bot is a software/program that we talk about everyday?
"mass banning bots notice...."
"bots destroy the game..."
"omfg u botter..."
etc...
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:18 pm
by sheeplol5
bot = againts rules ingame
pk2 = not againts rules ingame
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:30 pm
by sama98b
pk2 editing is against the rules too...
but it doesn't effect others.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:43 pm
by StealMySoda
This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.
Re: Why can we talk about pk2editor, but not bot software?
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:45 pm
by non ego man
E40 wrote:Why can we talk in detail how to pk2 with the hex editor but now bot software?
C'mon dude. If I take your question at face value, either you don't know what a bot is or you're not a very smart person, so I'll assume you were trying to make a different point and using this question as a rhetorical device. So what was the point you were trying to make?
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:47 pm
by DarkJackal
pk2 editing is modifying the game files which is against the rules, and morningdew has said it will get you banned.
Didn't someone post a topic a while ago about getting banned for it too, I think theres enough evidence to tell whether it is or not.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:48 pm
by sheeplol5
sama98b wrote:pk2 editing is against the rules too...
but it doesn't effect others.
ok thanks

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:13 pm
by nightbloom
StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.
Wrong...

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:15 pm
by DrunkiMunki
owned.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:19 pm
by Ell
nightbloom wrote:StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.
Wrong...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/n ... galpk2.gif
Haha

that screen shot.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:27 pm
by nightbloom
idk, but that looks pretty official. The guy got the 100 year ban hammer.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:53 pm
by NuclearSilo
nightbloom wrote:StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.
Wrong...

She said it's illegal, but it doesnt violate any rule in Term of Policy and Use so it's not illegal
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:57 pm
by Belgarath
Since when has Joymax followed their own ToS? Last I heard, they could ban you for spamming chat. They probably havent even updated the ToS since Beta.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:11 pm
by Skitsefrenik
Belgarath wrote:Since when has Joymax followed their own ToS? Last I heard, they could ban you for spamming chat.
I don't blame them.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:16 pm
by nightbloom
NuclearSilo wrote:nightbloom wrote:StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.
Wrong...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/n ... galpk2.gif
She said it's illegal, but it doesnt violate any rule in Term of Policy and Use so it's not illegal
LOL It's not? Tell that to the guy that got banned for 100 years. Tell morningdew and JM also while you are at it because "
PK2 editing is illegal" seems like they pretty much think it is.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:28 pm
by Fly
pwned? yes? no? i think so
gg
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:47 pm
by NuclearSilo
nightbloom wrote:NuclearSilo wrote:nightbloom wrote:StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.
Wrong...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/n ... galpk2.gif
She said it's illegal, but it doesnt violate any rule in Term of Policy and Use so it's not illegal
LOL It's not? Tell that to the guy that got banned for 100 years. Tell morningdew and JM also while you are at it because "
PK2 editing is illegal" seems like they pretty much think it is.
It's not because JM and MD said that it's illegal then it's illegal.
What is "illegal"? "Illegal" stands for "not legal" or "against the law".
What is "law"? "Law" here is the ToS. As long as pk editing is not included in the ToS, then it's not considered as a law.
Sue them, u'll get a lot of $$$

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:48 pm
by Belgarath
Skitsefrenik wrote:Belgarath wrote:Since when has Joymax followed their own ToS? Last I heard, they could ban you for spamming chat.
I don't blame them.
Not blaming them for not following their ridiculous ToS or just not blaming them at all?
PS: Fly, check you PMs

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:12 pm
by nightbloom
NuclearSilo wrote:nightbloom wrote:NuclearSilo wrote:nightbloom wrote:StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.
Wrong...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/n ... galpk2.gif
She said it's illegal, but it doesnt violate any rule in Term of Policy and Use so it's not illegal
LOL It's not? Tell that to the guy that got banned for 100 years. Tell morningdew and JM also while you are at it because "
PK2 editing is illegal" seems like they pretty much think it is.
It's not because JM and MD said that it's illegal then it's illegal.
What is "illegal"? "Illegal" stands for "not legal" or "against the law".
What is "law"? "Law" here is the ToS. As long as pk editing is not included in the ToS, then it's not considered as a law.
Sue them, u'll get a lot of $$$

Actually no, because the PK2 file is technically part of the "client" because when you click on "download client" you are not only getting the .exe that says client, you are getting the whole file identified as "client" which inclued the pk2 file. Altering the client, which the PK2 file is a part of, is illegal.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:27 pm
by NuclearSilo
nightbloom wrote:NuclearSilo wrote:nightbloom wrote:NuclearSilo wrote:nightbloom wrote:StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.
Wrong...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/n ... galpk2.gif
She said it's illegal, but it doesnt violate any rule in Term of Policy and Use so it's not illegal
LOL It's not? Tell that to the guy that got banned for 100 years. Tell morningdew and JM also while you are at it because "
PK2 editing is illegal" seems like they pretty much think it is.
It's not because JM and MD said that it's illegal then it's illegal.
What is "illegal"? "Illegal" stands for "not legal" or "against the law".
What is "law"? "Law" here is the ToS. As long as pk editing is not included in the ToS, then it's not considered as a law.
Sue them, u'll get a lot of $$$

Actually no, because the PK2 file is technically part of the "client" because when you click on "download client" you are not only getting the .exe that says client, you are getting the whole file identified as "client" which inclued the pk2 file. Altering the client, which the PK2 file is a part of, is illegal.
If u can show me an article of law which is related to altering game file is illegal then I
In sro setting folder, files data can be change in 2 ways : editing in-game or out-game (using hex). So in this case, is altering setting game file considered as illegal?
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:43 pm
by DarkJackal
altering any files is the same thing! It's against the rules, whoeve3r if its not that specific, ppl have been banned for it, and MD even said you would be, why try to risk it >.>.
Good luck trying to sue em for being banned if you get banned for altering the game files which your not supposed to do lol -.-.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:51 pm
by woutR
StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.
And why do you copy the rules from Joymax?