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SOH Equivelance
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:34 pm
by Mage Pker
im sure some of you play kSRO where there is already SOH Right?
so wat is SOH equivelant to? because a lot of people are thinking sun will drop because SOH is equal to it. but that makes NO SENSE at all that everyone would be able to basically buy a sun wep while others spent hours grinding for a drop.
so is SOH equal to SOS SOM SUN? or just an ordinary weapon with an extraordinary glow?
also, how HARD is it to actuallyget a soh wep?
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:40 pm
by Manowar
You must be thinking of the guardian seal weps. You get them through honor points + gold that you get through the guardian system.
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:42 pm
by Megalomaniac
Its gotta be unfair in a way, its Joymax after all :|
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:45 pm
by Mage Pker
Manowar wrote:You must be thinking of the guardian seal weps. You get them through honor points + gold that you get through the guardian system.
my main question was. what are they equivalent to.
i know how u get them.
how long does it take. and how strong are they
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:48 pm
by Midori
i think it's sos...
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:49 pm
by Mage Pker
i want a sure answer if anyone has one?!?!?!
a lot of people think its sun
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:06 pm
by Manowar
Mage Pker wrote:Manowar wrote:You must be thinking of the guardian seal weps. You get them through honor points + gold that you get through the guardian system.
my main question was. what are they equivalent to.
i know how u get them.
how long does it take. and how strong are they
I don't know that much on them, but i know that guardian weps for 9d go to lvl 82, heres a pic:

A guildmate did these calculations with that as well:
Wow, judging by the stat...
A SoSun 64+7 spear has 2012 (61%) mag. att.
64+15+7=86
A SoSun 64+9 spear has 2088 (42%) mag. att.
64+15+9=88
And this 82+4 guardian spear has 2596 (0%) mag. att.
82+15+4=101
Each + equal to approximately 35 mag. att.
(ignoring the %)
2012+(101-86)*35~2537
Thus, guardian is indeed the equivalent of SoSun!
Hope that helps
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:08 pm
by Crumpets
Well SoH you can get of any tier ... Seeing as form what I remember there were 3 types per degree.
The highest SoH korean wep I seen was 82 .. yet 9th degree is 80 and 85.
So I reckon SoH for us would be something like 70 or something like that.
If the SoH was +'d accordingly yes it could outweigh sosun. But the amount of people willign to bot on penons or whatever are minimal. So don't even worry about these being over run.
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:14 pm
by Fat_Smurf
wow wesome but since it come form a npc all stat are at 0 right? gonna be a pain in the ass to pimp those lol
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:39 pm
by [SD]Twysta
Fat_Smurf wrote:wow wesome but since it come form a npc all stat are at 0 right? gonna be a pain in the ass to pimp those lol
lol most likely yes :/
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:46 pm
by Disconn3cted
sosun that comes in any tier? just going to unbalance the game more
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:48 pm
by [SD]Twysta
Disconn3cted wrote:sosun that comes in any tier? just going to unbalance the game more
why would it? these 'sosuns' aren't easier to get for botters, any1 can get them.
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:49 pm
by Mage Pker
[SD]Twysta wrote:Disconn3cted wrote:sosun that comes in any tier? just going to unbalance the game more
why would it? these 'sosuns' aren't easier to get for botters, any1 can get them.
lol... seriously?
so a bot botting 24\7 for months isnt easier than a reg person only playing 3-4 a day?
and. if SOh is equiv to sun. tat means u can basically buy sun. why buy the actually seal of sun when u can buy soh?
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:50 pm
by [SD]Twysta
Mage Pker wrote:[SD]Twysta wrote:Disconn3cted wrote:sosun that comes in any tier? just going to unbalance the game more
why would it? these 'sosuns' aren't easier to get for botters, any1 can get them.
lol... seriously?
so a bot botting 24\7 for months isnt easier than a reg person only playing 3-4 a day?
and. if SOh is equiv to sun. tat means u can basically buy sun. why buy the actually seal of sun when u can buy soh?
they dont drop from mobs >.<
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:51 pm
by Manowar
Mage Pker wrote:[SD]Twysta wrote:Disconn3cted wrote:sosun that comes in any tier? just going to unbalance the game more
why would it? these 'sosuns' aren't easier to get for botters, any1 can get them.
lol... seriously?
so a bot botting 24\7 for months isnt easier than a reg person only playing 3-4 a day?
and. if SOh is equiv to sun. tat means u can basically buy sun. why buy the actually seal of sun when u can buy soh?
Guardian weps are unrepairable unless you buy some item (not sure what) with honor points that repairs them. They're still very useful for jobbing and pvp.
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:53 pm
by Mage Pker
[SD]Twysta wrote:Mage Pker wrote:[SD]Twysta wrote:Disconn3cted wrote:sosun that comes in any tier? just going to unbalance the game more
why would it? these 'sosuns' aren't easier to get for botters, any1 can get them.
lol... seriously?
so a bot botting 24\7 for months isnt easier than a reg person only playing 3-4 a day?
and. if SOh is equiv to sun. tat means u can basically buy sun. why buy the actually seal of sun when u can buy soh?
they dont drop from mobs >.<
was talking about sun not soh.
soh is easier to get then sun and its the same stats... really stupid
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:01 pm
by Crumpets
Not really .. if you think XXXX amount of guardian points is easy to get ... think again.
Also you say bots will have an advantage ... well slap me with a garden hose dunno which bot would prefer 324832748 hours on the ice getting only gold and HOPING for enough points than botting non stop in takla possibly GETTING a sun drop that IS repairable without having to plvl bitching 3x's.
hmm
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:24 pm
by CMG230
gotta be 60 to open academy so youll be getting high lvl tier anyhow. Plus we dunno howm any honor points you need to get one, might mean you need to get 30 graduates, which could take years. really the main people who will benefit from this are bots who jsut bot there referalls
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:19 am
by soxdrop
on the homepage it sais you get 40- your apprentices joining lvl of point
on the preview pic the 9d soh costs 8000 honor point O.o = 200+ graduation -.-
lol
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:51 am
by CMG230
rofl so yah anyone with the items will have been botting recruits up ;P
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:59 am
by srfer
seal of HAX, +100 level,
side effect, 10% chance to get banned from ksro for ever.
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:32 am
by lennonn
but would take like... hummm months to get one SOH and like a week for each repair stone... so i would say... u use more than a repair per week... but this would make honest and helpfull ppl have good chance in wars/pvp with one of that xD
Even on pking cuz u cant drop it xD
Yours,
Len

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:30 am
by EngravedDemon
There's really no Seal Of Honor, is there?
Those weapons/shield available through guardian system rewards are traded for honor points you acquire being a Guardian.
They are pretty much the same, you can pick SoStar/Moon/Sun weapons from there with limited repairs.
The only thing we're not certain about really is the +% of the stats... I heard they'd be stock, all 0% like in the npc stores... So it might need a lot of work even if they're SoSuns... But what if they have all +100% like in the korean lottery? Haha, it'd be insane then... Everyone would want one! LoL!
Considering the odds of getting an sosun if you're not a botter, getting a sun weapon through guardian honor points is still the most feasible one. And it's not like you can't repurchase repair points for them... So still good for general pvps/wars/unique killing, etc...
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:46 am
by lennonn
Would take around kinda same time hunting at same spot or guardianing(lol) to take it but if is a dropped one its forever...
But indeed its a way to get a sun =)
Yours,
Len

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:58 am
by Braxton
I wish it wasn't blue, takes away from our +9 crowd ego's.
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:02 am
by FliiipZ
Braxton wrote:I wish it wasn't blue, takes away from our +9 crowd ego's.
Yes like your +9 blade or was it the shield >_>
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:14 am
by Tetsumaru
still easier than actually finding a sun
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:14 am
by firefox6
Any money says they offer repair points in the item mall
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:19 am
by StealMySoda
firefox6 wrote:Any money says they offer repair points in the item mall
Don't give JM ideas.
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:21 am
by Braxton
blade