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How many servers is it going to take?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:26 pm
by HaseoGX
How many server is it going to take for us to be able to log in whenever we want?
Or maybe they should just raise the server player cap? what do you think?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:33 pm
by DarkJackal
It's never gonna happen, gotta realize its not players, its bots, lots and lots of gold bots(as well as players but more gold bots), when a new server opens its just more profit for them, they just keep making them until the server is full and they go 24/7.
It totally sux ass but thats just it is unless joymax does something -_-.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:45 pm
by Sheikza
If you think about it, what's the difference between adding more servers and adding more spaces? I find that if they had more spaces in the already existing servers, the gold bots and PT users would be able to increase because there would be more people ABLE to 'play.'
More Servers = More frustration and lots of people quiting
More Space = More people staying and possibly buying silk
Either way, even if I had to start a new char for every new server, I'd like to have more of whatever they have in mind because what they have now is very frustrating. There would be more spaces in total whichever way they go, even if chars from the older servers may be forgotten.....
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:48 pm
by grap3s04wr
technically it would take up to............ maybe 55 or so servers, we only have 21 servers at the mo adding up to about 49,000 or so players
there have been over 100,000 downloads of silkroad online and i bet thousands try to get in everyday to no avail
lets say there are 50,000 in game at all times with each server out of 20 holding about 3000 people except hercules and greece i think
there are probably over 100,000 more players from all over the world trying to get in
so that means about 50 servers in total
and anyway a new server is added like every 3 months so that would take ages
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:52 pm
by Sheikza
But think, buy the time we get all those servers, we'll have more guild mates to chat with between servers, getting to know a lot more people-people and they'll have a lot more skills. It would be more fun to play as a F2P with more space.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:03 pm
by DarkJackal
Sheikza wrote:If you think about it, what's the difference between adding more servers and adding more spaces? I find that if they had more spaces in the already existing servers, the gold bots and PT users would be able to increase because there would be more people ABLE to 'play.'
More Servers = More frustration and lots of people quiting
More Space = More people staying and possibly buying silk
Either way, even if I had to start a new char for every new server, I'd like to have more of whatever they have in mind because what they have now is very frustrating. There would be more spaces in total whichever way they go, even if chars from the older servers may be forgotten.....
Whats the different? Same size sro map + More Players/bots = CROWDEDNESS.
I actually think it owuld be nice if they merged all 21 servers into one lol, BUT before that could happen they need to make the entire sro map 22x the size lol.
Thats not going to happen though so to let more ppl be able to play they make more servers, they have already tried increasing capacity and it lags like a bitch!
We might not even need 21 servers if there wasn't so many bots anyway.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:06 pm
by Tainted
The answer is 42.
Edit, after reading the thread I thought I might propperly post.
Alright let me beging by saying they'll never change the size of the actuall game aside from expansions which will make the game a bit larger. They would have to remodel and texture more sections, ect. If they made little villages and instead of us having to go to the main city that would be better in my opinion.
I'm sure the servers they have are maxed out on space so the only solution would to be... add more servers. It's cheaper for them and won't take as long. They'll make the money back with the new servers and we continue playing. The loyal people who play their servers will stick to them while the new server gives people a fresh start and for a little bit, not enjoy the clutter of bots.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:06 pm
by IceCrash
DarkJackal wrote:Sheikza wrote:If you think about it, what's the difference between adding more servers and adding more spaces? I find that if they had more spaces in the already existing servers, the gold bots and PT users would be able to increase because there would be more people ABLE to 'play.'
More Servers = More frustration and lots of people quiting
More Space = More people staying and possibly buying silk
Either way, even if I had to start a new char for every new server, I'd like to have more of whatever they have in mind because what they have now is very frustrating. There would be more spaces in total whichever way they go, even if chars from the older servers may be forgotten.....
Whats the different? Same size sro map + More Players/bots = CROWDEDNESS.
I actually think it owuld be nice if they merged all 21 servers into one lol, BUT before that could happen they need to make the entire sro map 22x the size lol.
Thats not going to happen though so to let more ppl be able to play they make more servers, they have already tried increasing capacity and it lags like a bitch!
We might not even need 21 servers if there wasn't so many bots anyway.
dude, 10 servers would be perfect if only legit players could play this god dam game
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:07 pm
by nofearz
we need a better antibot programme that don't disturb legit players like me and more, but they can't keep making more servers then it will actually come a server with max 10 ppl. and also 3000 is for (only china region) good cuz if it will get more it will be overcrowded (ye even worser then now) but when euro expansion comes out there will be more space and they can do an server expansion to make it like 5000 or something it will get laggier but I hardly ever lagg (I mean laggspikes and freezes not to wait 1-2 seconds be4 yur char walks), and also if they have a better antibot programme like I said before they can reduce the servers(not good idea cuz some legit players loose their accounts).
~NoFearz
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:10 pm
by HaseoGX
nofearz wrote:we need a better antibot programme that don't disturb legit players like me and more, but they can't keep making more servers then it will actually come a server with max 10 ppl. and also 3000 is for (only china region) good cuz if it will get more it will be overcrowded (ye even worser then now) but when euro expansion comes out there will be more space and they can do an server expansion to make it like 5000 or something it will get laggier but I hardly ever lagg (I mean laggspikes and freezes not to wait 1-2 seconds be4 yur char walks), and also if they have a better antibot programme like I said before they can reduce the servers(not good idea cuz some legit players loose their accounts).
~NoFearz
whats with that anyway? its so annoying to have to wait 2 secs before your character moves. I guess you get used to it
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:15 pm
by feba
If you think about it, what's the difference between adding more servers and adding more spaces?
two things.
client side lag
overcrowding.
If a server is twice the size, assuming the map is the same size, that means it's twice as crowded. This causes clients to lag, due to poor client side internet connections, but more importantly computing power and possibly client software just can't support that many people. This also causes overcrowding- whenever you see people leveling in your area, instead of being the two of you, there would be four people. monsters would be much more competitive.
That said, with Euro expansion, it would probably be safe to increase server expansion by 500-1500, since it will add quite a bit of space to the game.
As much as I love the idea of a shardless MMO (having played EVE online), it would kill any fantasy MMO that tried it.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:18 pm
by Tainted
And to the people saying "10 servers would be perfect "IF" bots didn't play them" thats kinda bs in my opinion since it's not realistic. If JM would do the right thing and actually update gamegaurd frequently and look for these bots (which are quit obvious, I could find 50 easily by myself within an hour ) JM will keep expanding til they announce that they're not making anymore servers. It's a way for them to make easy money and for all they care, it's working and working pretty damn well.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:23 pm
by Jex
adding more servers isnt helping, a few people jump boat every time one comes out, but it soon filsl up with the bots anyway.
the fact is, they left it too long to release servers, and not enough at once, the characterts all piled in Xian, then the next server, etc etc.
more characters on Xian then the last 11 servers combined, but only 3000 can get into the game.
the only way to fix this would to be infact allow characters to move server. when they are sufficient servers to hold everyone
if you look at the release history of the servers in a row, you get every account ever created spread out evenly, then begin pushing them all towards Xian. they all get cramped up into the earlier ones more then the newer, because there hasnt been as much time to choose them.
btu still, every server is crowded. therte aren't sufficient servers to hold everyone, even if there was no one will go on the new ones.
who;s going to give up a fully farmed, capped character with sosun gears out the ass just to log in a bit easier? no one.
double the amount of servers, effective immediately,
show detailed information about each server
accounts registered, accounts active, average players logged in, highest amount logged in, lowest amount logged in, show peak times in hours.
then allow players to change a characters server just once
if joymax did that, everything would even out
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:27 pm
by nofearz
HaseoGX wrote:nofearz wrote:we need a better antibot programme that don't disturb legit players like me and more, but they can't keep making more servers then it will actually come a server with max 10 ppl. and also 3000 is for (only china region) good cuz if it will get more it will be overcrowded (ye even worser then now) but when euro expansion comes out there will be more space and they can do an server expansion to make it like 5000 or something it will get laggier but I hardly ever lagg (I mean laggspikes and freezes not to wait 1-2 seconds be4 yur char walks), and also if they have a better antibot programme like I said before they can reduce the servers(not good idea cuz some legit players loose their accounts).
~NoFearz
whats with that anyway? its so annoying to have to wait 2 secs before your character moves. I guess you get used to it
I am
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:40 pm
by HaseoGX
Jex wrote:adding more servers isnt helping, a few people jump boat every time one comes out, but it soon filsl up with the bots anyway.
the fact is, they left it too long to release servers, and not enough at once, the characterts all piled in Xian, then the next server, etc etc.
more characters on Xian then the last 11 servers combined, but only 3000 can get into the game.
the only way to fix this would to be infact allow characters to move server. when they are sufficient servers to hold everyone
if you look at the release history of the servers in a row, you get every account ever created spread out evenly, then begin pushing them all towards Xian. they all get cramped up into the earlier ones more then the newer, because there hasnt been as much time to choose them.
btu still, every server is crowded. therte aren't sufficient servers to hold everyone, even if there was no one will go on the new ones.
who;s going to give up a fully farmed, capped character with sosun gears out the ass just to log in a bit easier? no one.
double the amount of servers, effective immediately,
show detailed information about each server
accounts registered, accounts active, average players logged in, highest amount logged in, lowest amount logged in, show peak times in hours.
then allow players to change a characters server just once
if joymax did that, everything would even out
why just once? you should be able to move your character between any server at will. then the servers would even out because people wouldnt be obligated to stick to the older servers like xian because they could easily just move.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:54 pm
by nofearz
I agree, also we can have subserver like you log in into rome without problems en then a couple of subservers with enough capacity like flyff. if you know flyff
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:20 pm
by nitesoulja
ho wmany servers is it going to take for JM to ..... realize that 50% + the new servers is all gold bots??? thats y there crowded all the time -_-
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:24 pm
by DarkJackal
nitesoulja wrote:ho wmany servers is it going to take for JM to ..... realize that 50% + all servers is all gold bots??? thats y there crowded all the time -_-
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:30 pm
by Tainted
Hate to say it but the only way to fix the economy now is to money wipe. :\
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:38 pm
by Jex
HaseoGX wrote:why just once? you should be able to move your character between any server at will. then the servers would even out because people wouldnt be obligated to stick to the older servers like xian because they could easily just move.
just once because if you can do it at will people will abuse it and the balance will never settle.
a one time only choice will make people think seriously about where to go, because if they pick wrong, they're stuck.
it's a guarantee to settle people down
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:53 pm
by DarkJackal
Tainted wrote:Hate to say it but the only way to fix the economy now is to money wipe. :\
How about a total sosun wipe also lol, that might be nice too.
Hate seeing bots will not only sosun weapon, but +7-9 sosun weapon/shield/full eq lol -_-..
I don't think moving chars from 1 server to another would help anything anyway, xian might be the oldest and have the most accounts but all the servers are fked pretty much the same.
Maybe if they made a new server but you could only join by switching to it like that? At least only bots that buy silk could go, but then again that seems kinda like a cheap idea that probably wouldn't be to good.