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are europeans overpowered

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:54 pm
by Barotix
well so what do you guys think

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:55 pm
by Jex
Negative trooper, their attack and defense aswell as cooperative team play all coordinates into balance with the chinese stand alone and potting abilities.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:55 pm
by BlackFox
Not need to make a thread like this ...................

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:57 pm
by Jex
Actually I don't think I've seen this being discussed before. can;t say I've read every thread but this topic is a specific part of the Europe update, maybe it will unfold into a decent discussion about mixing chinese and europe teams to form stronger guilds for jobs and wars.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:00 pm
by tombbb
How can anyone make any sort of judgement about whether euro characters are overpowered or not without even having played them?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:01 pm
by Quyxz
idk




yet

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:02 pm
by JackB4u3r
Depending on the situation.

Short version: no.

Long version:
In solo grinding a Chinese character will always be better then a Europe character. With no pot delay and more developed skills they have various options on how to build their character and so have many advantages over European characters which are party based and do very bad at solo grinding. Wizards are not bad at solo grinding, because of their high damage and the ability to constantly attack without a great delay. With a few X-Large potions, they can do very good, especially on non-aggro mobs.

In party grinding, a Europe party rocks and kills extremely fast. Wizards can do enormous damage in short period of time and clerics will heal the tanks, so that they don't even come to the critical hp zone, even if they are killing mobs which are much higher lvl than they are. A Chinese party will not work good together except they arrange themselves, but due to the fact that they are made to solo grind, they will rather make exp distribution parties.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:03 pm
by Disconn3cted
well considering that i've never played euro and there is an idk option i choose it since idk lol

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:06 pm
by XemnasXD
well we won't know that till we try it for ourslves :roll:

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:07 pm
by Ichimaru420
no I dnt think there are tbh especialy with the 20 pot delay I think it's evend out tbh.

hmm

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:13 pm
by Barotix
the reason i made the post is because i know there are players that play cSRO and kSRO

and i wanted thier feedback

so i could make my iSRO, F.O.S. faq better

the faq i'm talking about is the 1 i made on the official forums as Yon_Cui

im just gonna be making polls

and putting together the data then adding it to the faq later

its like my way of collecting info from players more experienced than me

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:22 pm
by Krad_Red
JackB4u3r wrote:Depending on the situation.

Short version: no.

Long version:
In solo grinding a Chinese character will always be better then a Europe character. With no pot delay and more developed skills they have various options on how to build their character and so have many advantages over European characters which are party based and do very bad at solo grinding. Wizards are not bad at solo grinding, because of their high damage and the ability to constantly attack without a great delay. With a few X-Large potions, they can do very good, especially on non-aggro mobs.

In party grinding, a Europe party rocks and kills extremely fast. Wizards can do enormous damage in short period of time and clerics will heal the tanks, so that they don't even come to the critical hp zone, even if they are killing mobs which are much higher lvl than they are. A Chinese party will not work good together except they arrange themselves, but due to the fact that they are made to solo grind, they will rather make exp distribution parties.


always "in grinding this" "in grinding that" no one cares! grinding is boring! > <

how about in pvp? what people truely care for. :D

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:25 pm
by JackB4u3r
Krad_Red wrote:always "in grinding this" "in grinding that" no one cares! grinding is boring! > <

how about in pvp? what people truely care for. :D


Grinding = Killing mobs.

Killing mobs = Experience.

Experience = Level up.

Level up = More power.

More power = Better at pvp.

Better at pvp = More fun.

:D

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:31 pm
by XCaosX
idc=?
idk=?
sry im lvl80 but noob xD

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:32 pm
by Disconn3cted
XCaosX wrote:idc=i dont care
idk=i dont know
sry im lvl80 but noob xD

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:34 pm
by /Pi
Both races are on different gameplay. I can never emphasize this any more. The Chinese race is good at solo grinding, and with specialization, they're also good at PVP. The European race is good at party grinding, but again with specialization, they're good at wars.

In short, the Chinese race lean more towards one on one fights, while the European race lean more towards massive fights.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:34 pm
by Ell
I don't care
I don't know

Anyways, euro party grind is a lot more fun.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:35 pm
by cin
XCaosX wrote:sry im lvl80 but noob xD

lulz.

as far as i know, both races have their advantages and disadvantages.
so i say no; euros are not overpowered.

hmm

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:48 pm
by Barotix
so i can safely edit my faq and say the current races and races [arabic/islam] to come will be balanced

and its safe to suggest
chinese = solo

euro = party

muslim/arabic = ????

Re: hmm

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:51 pm
by HyorunmarouZ
Barotix wrote:so i can safely edit my faq and say the current races and races [arabic/islam] to come will be balanced

and its safe to suggest
chinese = solo

euro = party

muslim/arabic = ????


I'm not sure, but i have the impression that Arabics are solo oriented too.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:51 am
by Barotix
hmm so more are pushing towards no

hmm 25 more votes and ill edit my faq according to what the majority says

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:38 am
by DragonTalon
Krad_Red wrote:always "in grinding this" "in grinding that" no one cares! grinding is boring! > <

how about in pvp? what people truely care for. :D

Im pretty sure the same thing applies. If it was a 1v1 Nuker Vs. Warrior im pretty sure a nuker would win. But throw in a healer type class to aid the warrior then im guessing the nuker is considered pwned? Im not so sure myself so correct me if im wrong.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:56 am
by Sharp324
Krad_Red wrote:
always "in grinding this" "in grinding that" no one cares! grinding is boring! > <

how about in pvp? what people truely care for. :D


Actually grinding in a euro party is quite enjoyable. Its not just click and move on. You all have to work together and i love that fact

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:12 pm
by Barotix
so it seems the majority agree euro's are not overpowered,.....but why

Re: hmm

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:02 pm
by Fly
HyorunmarouZ wrote:
Barotix wrote:so i can safely edit my faq and say the current races and races [arabic/islam] to come will be balanced

and its safe to suggest
chinese = solo

euro = party

muslim/arabic = ????


I'm not sure, but i have the impression that Arabics are solo oriented too.


they are solo-party oriented. meaning they solo with a party of summoned mobs they created. both solo and party at the same time. :P

there pvp styal would prolly be in between euro and china. better then china in group, and better then euro in 1v1.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:15 pm
by FireboltNuker
Not at all.

well

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:16 pm
by CMG230
i read every skill of all classes for euro, and its apparent that euros do WAY more damage, even the cleric has skills that do more damage then chinese pure int nukers. But they cant spam pot/pills

Re: hmm

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:16 pm
by HyorunmarouZ
Fly wrote:
HyorunmarouZ wrote:
Barotix wrote:so i can safely edit my faq and say the current races and races [arabic/islam] to come will be balanced

and its safe to suggest
chinese = solo

euro = party

muslim/arabic = ????


I'm not sure, but i have the impression that Arabics are solo oriented too.


they are solo-party oriented. meaning they solo with a party of summoned mobs they created. both solo and party at the same time. :P

there pvp styal would prolly be in between euro and china. better then china in group, and better then euro in 1v1.


Yeah that's very logical :P if we already met the extremes (group and solo) there's only the in-between left...

That summoning sound interesting would be good to see what "beasts" or cretures can be summoned, like that Aladdin's ripoff genie hehe

Now we only need to wait for nightbloom and you to make a movie when it is released :wink:

hah

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:25 pm
by CMG230
i think islam will be awesome. I saw a movie on sro islam, i think the link was on here but cant remeber, and a ninja is fighting with skaleton guards. Would be interesting if you can summon like diablo 2 :lod style, ressing undead, and summoning skaletons to have a mix of them. that would be so fun to play, im assuming they will also have poison as an element, as poison always seems to follow the summoner in all the games ive played. The ninja also looked cool, wasnt all weapon oriented, they had spinning kicks and throws and such, but this wasnt actual gameplay, just a movie trailer about it, so thoes skills and crreatures may not even exist.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:26 pm
by Tetsumaru
there is no such thing as a muslim ninja.