Are bots banned by account or IP?

Temptation · Post by **Temptation** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:04 am

Cause IP would pwn.

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:05 am

Account, IP is easy to change, also it would mean major internet cafes ect operating on the same ip would all get banned.

StealMySoda · Post by **StealMySoda** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:13 am

By account.

Temptation · Post by **Temptation** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:15 am

Ok thanks. Sorry, I haven't been banned before since I'm legit

Chief · Post by **Chief** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:45 am

Ell wrote:Account, IP is easy to change, also it would mean major internet cafes ect operating on the same ip would all get banned.

Isn't botting in a internet cafe with everyone around is sorta...odd?

shadowman20875 · Post by **shadowman20875** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:54 am

Chief wrote:
Ell wrote:Account, IP is easy to change, also it would mean major internet cafes ect operating on the same ip would all get banned.

Isn't botting in a internet cafe with everyone around is sorta...odd?

No, one would set up the bot and browse the internet.

_wolf_ · Post by **_wolf_** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:02 am

"hey what are you doing"

"letting my computer play an awesome game for me so i dont have too"

:roll:

/sarcasm

GaS · Post by **GaS** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:11 am

shadowman20875 wrote:
Chief wrote:
Ell wrote:Account, IP is easy to change, also it would mean major internet cafes ect operating on the same ip would all get banned.

Isn't botting in a internet cafe with everyone around is sorta...odd?

No, one would set up the bot and browse the internet.

Its been done before. I've seen people bot on diablo 2 at an internet cafe.

Awwndreezy · Post by **Awwndreezy** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:22 am

I mean i'm not into the whole botting thing, because IMO i wouldn't feel so great knowing i got my level 80 without me doing anything, as in no sense in achievement. Whats the game for then ? -.-

Sylhana · Post by **Sylhana** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:26 am

Better not play in an internet cafe, cause by default all internet cafes have keyloggers (for their security :S) which are exploitable. You can easily change your ip if you have dynamic ip, or if you use an open proxy :/. Oh gosh I digress, yes they get account ban.

lambis · Post by **lambis** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:09 am

bots are not getting banned... :banghead:

Jex · Post by **Jex** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:11 am

Ell wrote:Account, IP is easy to change, also it would mean major internet cafes ect operating on the same ip would all get banned.

I fail to see a problem with that >_>

tedtwilliger · Post by **tedtwilliger** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:31 am

lambis wrote:bots are not getting banned...

+1

The real statement should be as follows

"IF a bot gets banned, will it by by account or IP".

xMoDx · Post by **xMoDx** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:35 am

Chief wrote:
Ell wrote:Account, IP is easy to change, also it would mean major internet cafes ect operating on the same ip would all get banned.

Isn't botting in a internet cafe with everyone around is sorta...odd?

90% gold farming is done on cafe like environment =] try to ask google help for some video.. ill be glad to post link of said articles of gold farming with video on it if requested but u can get it on google anyways if you have time =]

Jex · Post by **Jex** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:41 am

hence my former statement ^_^

uBeR · Post by **uBeR** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:53 pm

90% of gold farming is done by computers back-doored by trojans that run the game purely in binary, unbeknownst to the host. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of bots on each server, operating on 20+ servers. If you do the numbers, you realize there's no way these bots are operated manually.

As for avoiding those who change their IPs (if Joymax were to ban by IP), banning by MAC address avoids this problem. If Joymax were to be serious about their so-called "war against the bots," they would do this. But Joymax makes a handsome profit from botters, so this will not happen.

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:00 pm

I'm pretty sure you can change your mac address.

lambis · Post by **lambis** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:10 pm

uBeR wrote:90% of gold farming is done by computers back-doored by trojans that run the game purely in binary, unbeknownst to the host. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of bots on each server, operating on 20+ servers. If you do the numbers, you realize there's no way these bots are operated manually.

As for avoiding those who change their IPs (if Joymax were to ban by IP), banning by MAC address avoids this problem. If Joymax were to be serious about their so-called "war against the bots," they would do this. But Joymax makes a handsome profit from botters, so this will not happen.

i find that really hard to believe...or stupid... sry had to say it... :banghead:

uBeR · Post by **uBeR** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:23 pm

That's fine. I'll let you go on believing these people are logging on thousands of computers individually and manually to run their bots.

xMoDx · Post by **xMoDx** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:17 pm

uBeR wrote:90% of gold farming is done by computers back-doored by trojans that run the game purely in binary, unbeknownst to the host.

hmmm? like zombies right? POSIBLE but.. i dont think bot programers have come to this point.. if yes its f***** crazy.....

PS: try to observ at DW B**** area and JG G****** you will see 20 - 45 character standing there 24hrs and from time to time some character with the name of qwerqwer1 and qwerqwer2 go near him and after 5-15sec go away and take note they are falling in lines

i was thinking those 20 - 45 afk chars are gold companies gold collectors... imagine the competition >.< legits suffer..... but they cant help it they still buy gold from them.. sigh*

lambis · Post by **lambis** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:26 am

uBeR wrote:That's fine. I'll let you go on believing these people are logging on thousands of computers individually and manually to run their bots.

google it...ps.I have a sudden urge to suck for some milk...

uBeR · Post by **uBeR** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:30 am

lambis wrote:
uBeR wrote:That's fine. I'll let you go on believing these people are logging on thousands of computers individually and manually to run their bots.

google it...ps.I have a sudden urge to suck for some milk...

Yes, maybe you should use Google.

1. It's easy to get a backdoor onto someone's computer.
2. It's not hard to code a program that will run the game in the background.

mew123 · Post by **mew123** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:05 am

who pays money for internet cafe and uses bot...

uBeR · Post by **uBeR** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:56 pm

No one.

boast · Post by **boast** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:07 pm

they should block IP ranges for about a week when an offense is committed.

Poochu · Post by **Poochu** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:15 pm

zombies/slaves are probable.

but it could be:

the companies themselves. image 20 mid spec. pc's

they could handle about 5-10 sro clients (on low gfx) if they multi cliented.

thats how many bots they could be running per place. etc etc