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Sun drops & Mobs
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:19 pm
by Sparky101
Hey,
I'm 79 farming on mages at the moment, but they seem to be so botted up, it really drives me nuts trying to zip all over the place just to find a mob to kill.
I'm thinking of moving to royal gaurds/generals since they seem to be botted up mostly by str bots, and them, at least I can ks as a pure int with an good armor set granted I don't get a block.
My problem is, I already had a sun drop at mages....armor head, and had a sun spear ks'd from me by a 80 24/7 botter hybrid int w/zerk...jerk. So I would rather still have better chances at sun drops over a less stressful place to grind.
Do gaurds and generals still give you a fair shot at sun? I know anything above 70 has the chance of dropping sun, but some mobs just seem to give better odds.
Anyone here know of sun dropped by generals, or had one drop themselves?
Thanx for the help in advance.
Sparky101..legit n feeling dumb about it sometimes.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:26 pm
by heroo
Official SUN drop guide
Which monsters drop the most SUN ?
RANDOM
What kind of SUN they drop ?
RANDOM
Which place should I grind to get a SUN drop ?
RANDOM
SUMMARY
ALL THE F*CKING SUN DROPS ARE F*CKING RANDOM, SO PLEASE JUST GRIND AND CROSS YOUR FINGERS!
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:28 pm
by VforVendetta
heroo wrote:Official SUN drop guide
Which monsters drop the most SUN ?
RANDOM
What kind of SUN they drop ?
RANDOM
Which place should I grind to get a SUN drop ?
RANDOM
SUMMARY
ALL THE F*CKING SUN DROPS ARE F*CKING RANDOM, SO PLEASE JUST GRIND AND CROSS YOUR FINGERS!
I find it hard to grind and cross my fingers at the same time
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:29 pm
by pinoyplaya
Which monsters drop lvl 16 sosun bow? Random? So that means high lvl monsters will drop lvl 16 sosun bow? I dont think so.........
How do you explain that?
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:31 pm
by heroo
pinoyplaya wrote:Which monsters drop lvl 16 sosun bow? Random? So that means high lvl monsters will drop lvl 16 sosun bow? I dont think so.........
How do you explain that?
you cant explain, SUn is toally random, some guy got a lvl 42 SUN bow from PENON warriors, and other guy got a 64 SOS shield from PENON fighters, so there is no explanation.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:38 pm
by VforVendetta
heroo wrote:pinoyplaya wrote:Which monsters drop lvl 16 sosun bow? Random? So that means high lvl monsters will drop lvl 16 sosun bow? I dont think so.........
How do you explain that?
you cant explain, SUn is toally random, some guy got a lvl 42 SUN bow from PENON warriors, and other guy got a 64 SOS shield from PENON fighters, so there is no explanation.
Actually from my observation mobs drop Seal items either 1 grade below, the same grade or 1 grade above, but not more.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:44 pm
by heroo
VforVendetta wrote:heroo wrote:pinoyplaya wrote:Which monsters drop lvl 16 sosun bow? Random? So that means high lvl monsters will drop lvl 16 sosun bow? I dont think so.........
How do you explain that?
you cant explain, SUn is toally random, some guy got a lvl 42 SUN bow from PENON warriors, and other guy got a 64 SOS shield from PENON fighters, so there is no explanation.
Actually from my observation mobs drop Seal items either 1 grade below, the same grade or 1 grade above, but not more.
ooh lol, dont know, but that sounds quite logical, well thx Vendetta for improving this guide
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:04 pm
by Spanktastik
Monsters in Taklamakan (bone soldiers and up I think? Someone confirm?) are supposed to drop 9D equipment. But, because the 9D stuff is not out yet, they drop the next best thing down the list - 8D SUN. So its as if there were double the chance. This is why theres so much 8D SUN, but very little 8D SOM (SOM is still dropped as normal).
So youre guide is wrong.
As for the original question, I would THINK that the higher lvl the monster, the better the chances... but I dont know. I just know Takla is full of sun waiting to be dropped.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:07 pm
by cool2fool
heroo wrote:Official SUN drop guide
Which monsters drop the most SUN ?
RANDOM
What kind of SUN they drop ?
RANDOM
Which place should I grind to get a SUN drop ?
RANDOM
SUMMARY
ALL THE F*CKING SUN DROPS ARE F*CKING RANDOM, SO PLEASE JUST GRIND AND CROSS YOUR FINGERS!
Thats BS! You train at generals your drop chance are 80% lower compare to mage.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:09 pm
by heroo
Spanktastik wrote:Monsters in Taklamakan (bone soldiers and up I think? Someone confirm?) are supposed to drop 9D equipment. But, because the 9D stuff is not out yet, they drop the next best thing down the list - 8D SUN. So its as if there were double the chance. This is why theres so much 8D SUN, but very little 8D SOM (SOM is still dropped as normal).
So youre guide is wrong.
As for the original question, I would THINK that the higher lvl the monster, the better the chances... but I dont know. I just know Takla is full of sun waiting to be dropped.
bone soldiers arent 76+, so this means they cant drop 9 DEG stuff ( ass 9 deg stuff starts @ lvl 76 ), so this means your statement is wrong
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:14 pm
by glavie
VforVendetta wrote:heroo wrote:pinoyplaya wrote:Which monsters drop lvl 16 sosun bow? Random? So that means high lvl monsters will drop lvl 16 sosun bow? I dont think so.........
How do you explain that?
you cant explain, SUn is toally random, some guy got a lvl 42 SUN bow from PENON warriors, and other guy got a 64 SOS shield from PENON fighters, so there is no explanation.
Actually from my observation mobs drop Seal items either 1 grade below, the same grade or 1 grade above, but not more.
V is correct. So if you want to have the best chance of a sos/som/sosun, 8D you would have to grind on the lowest level mob that drops 8D tabs.
The higher the level the mob the fewer drops you get. Also obviously you would kill quicker.
Of course you could still end up with 7D sosun.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:22 pm
by Crumpets
cool2fool wrote:heroo wrote:Official SUN drop guide
Which monsters drop the most SUN ?
RANDOM
What kind of SUN they drop ?
RANDOM
Which place should I grind to get a SUN drop ?
RANDOM
SUMMARY
ALL THE F*CKING SUN DROPS ARE F*CKING RANDOM, SO PLEASE JUST GRIND AND CROSS YOUR FINGERS!
Thats BS! You train at generals your drop chance are 80% lower compare to mage.
Yup, i dunno what lvl Mr.heroo is but his info is totally ludacris. It's a well known fact mages drop the most sun. Amount of mages + amount of dropped sun is FAR better than amount of snipers + amount of sun found.
Sun does get dropped to at Niya generals, but on very rare occasions ... a m8ey got sun garm legs whilst protecting my murder stat there. But in general Niya Generals have a FAR lower chance of sun drop.
Please Mr.Heroo get your retarded facts straight.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:25 pm
by [SK]Paddo
a monster thats supposed to drop 9th has higher chances.. i mean, u got the chance of finding a "normal" 8th sun. plus u got the chance of a 9th sox, which will be a sun8th for you.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:37 pm
by uBeR
It is random. Some monsters drop more than other. Of course, specific types of monsters drop a specific range of items. Just ignore heroo.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:41 pm
by heroo
Crumpets wrote:cool2fool wrote:heroo wrote:Official SUN drop guide
Which monsters drop the most SUN ?
RANDOM
What kind of SUN they drop ?
RANDOM
Which place should I grind to get a SUN drop ?
RANDOM
SUMMARY
ALL THE F*CKING SUN DROPS ARE F*CKING RANDOM, SO PLEASE JUST GRIND AND CROSS YOUR FINGERS!
Thats BS! You train at generals your drop chance are 80% lower compare to mage.
Yup, i dunno what lvl Mr.heroo is but his info is totally ludacris. It's a well known fact mages drop the most sun. Amount of mages + amount of dropped sun is FAR better than amount of snipers + amount of sun found.
Sun does get dropped to at Niya generals, but on very rare occasions ... a m8ey got sun garm legs whilst protecting my murder stat there. But in general Niya Generals have a FAR lower chance of sun drop.
Please Mr.Heroo get your retarded facts straight.
Dear Mr. Crumpets,
if you really thought that that was an official Guide, you're even more retarted than i am.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:47 pm
by Crumpets
heroo wrote:
Dear Mr. Crumpets,
if you really thought that that was an official Guide, you're even more retarted than i am.
I never said I thought what you said was official. Seeing as I quoted WHAT YOU SAID and gave my opinion on it, I see nothing wrong with it.
Oh and by the way 'retarted' is spelled retarded.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:59 pm
by Gul
Crumpets wrote:It's a well known fact mages drop the most sun. Amount of mages + amount of dropped sun is FAR better than amount of snipers + amount of sun found.
Sun does get dropped to at Niya generals, but on very rare occasions ...
I'm not saying you're wrong, but you have to take into account the number of people grinding at each spot. On all three servers I've been on, there have been a lot more people grinding at mages vs generals. Of course more people = more chance of sun being found.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:03 pm
by Crumpets
Gul wrote:Crumpets wrote:It's a well known fact mages drop the most sun. Amount of mages + amount of dropped sun is FAR better than amount of snipers + amount of sun found.
Sun does get dropped to at Niya generals, but on very rare occasions ...
I'm not saying you're wrong, but you have to take into account the number of people grinding at each spot. On all three servers I've been on, there have been a lot more people grinding at mages vs generals. Of course more people = more chance of sun being found.
I was trying to make that point T_T. Hens me saying the ratio of mages to dropped sun is a lot higher than anywhere else.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:10 pm
by TwelveEleven
Crumpets wrote:Gul wrote:Crumpets wrote:It's a well known fact mages drop the most sun. Amount of mages + amount of dropped sun is FAR better than amount of snipers + amount of sun found.
Sun does get dropped to at Niya generals, but on very rare occasions ...
I'm not saying you're wrong, but you have to take into account the number of people grinding at each spot. On all three servers I've been on, there have been a lot more people grinding at mages vs generals. Of course more people = more chance of sun being found.
I was trying to make that point T_T. Hens me saying the ratio of mages to dropped sun is a lot higher than anywhere else.
Then heroo's info isn't ludacris after all..
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:12 pm
by crazy_foo
Crumpets wrote:Gul wrote:Crumpets wrote:It's a well known fact mages drop the most sun. Amount of mages + amount of dropped sun is FAR better than amount of snipers + amount of sun found.
Sun does get dropped to at Niya generals, but on very rare occasions ...
I'm not saying you're wrong, but you have to take into account the number of people grinding at each spot. On all three servers I've been on, there have been a lot more people grinding at mages vs generals. Of course more people = more chance of sun being found.
I was trying to make that point T_T. Hens me saying the ratio of mages to dropped sun is a lot higher than anywhere else.
I agree, but Crumpets why do you keep ignoring me, all I want is to buy that sword and you arn't responding to any of my messages.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:24 pm
by Crumpets
crazy_foo wrote:Crumpets wrote:Gul wrote:Crumpets wrote:It's a well known fact mages drop the most sun. Amount of mages + amount of dropped sun is FAR better than amount of snipers + amount of sun found.
Sun does get dropped to at Niya generals, but on very rare occasions ...
I'm not saying you're wrong, but you have to take into account the number of people grinding at each spot. On all three servers I've been on, there have been a lot more people grinding at mages vs generals. Of course more people = more chance of sun being found.
I was trying to make that point T_T. Hens me saying the ratio of mages to dropped sun is a lot higher than anywhere else.
I agree, but Crumpets why do you keep ignoring me, all I want is to buy that sword and you arn't responding to any of my messages.
Allready pm'd u ingame on Scones bout it T_T.
TwelveEleven wrote:
Then heroo's info isn't ludacris after all..
Errr >.<
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:35 pm
by 4-n-zics
Crumpets wrote:cool2fool wrote:heroo wrote:Official SUN drop guide
Which monsters drop the most SUN ?
RANDOM
What kind of SUN they drop ?
RANDOM
Which place should I grind to get a SUN drop ?
RANDOM
SUMMARY
ALL THE F*CKING SUN DROPS ARE F*CKING RANDOM, SO PLEASE JUST GRIND AND CROSS YOUR FINGERS!
Thats BS! You train at generals your drop chance are 80% lower compare to mage.
Yup, i dunno what lvl Mr.heroo is but his info is totally ludacris. It's a well known fact mages drop the most sun. Amount of mages + amount of dropped sun is FAR better than amount of snipers + amount of sun found.
Sun does get dropped to at Niya generals, but on very rare occasions ... a m8ey got sun garm legs whilst protecting my murder stat there. But in general Niya Generals have a FAR lower chance of sun drop.
Please Mr.Heroo get your retarded facts straight.
Is that actually true or do more people grind on mages then anything else in Takla? Has anyone taken in consideration the number of people that grind on Mages and compared that number to the number of those that grind on any thing else and compared the number or SoSun drops?
If you have 100 people grinding on Mages and there are 50 SoSun drops that is a 1:2 drop per person ratio (50%). If there are 10 people grinding anything else and there are 9 SoSun drops the ratio is 9:10 (90 drops for every 100 people), which is a much higher drop rate (90%). These numbers are just examples, but seeing as how everyone says that Mages drop more SoSuns then the more people that will grind Mages, which means more total SoSun drops, but does not necessarily mean a higher drop rate.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:11 pm
by crazy_foo
Crumpets wrote:crazy_foo wrote:Crumpets wrote:Gul wrote:Crumpets wrote:It's a well known fact mages drop the most sun. Amount of mages + amount of dropped sun is FAR better than amount of snipers + amount of sun found.
Sun does get dropped to at Niya generals, but on very rare occasions ...
I'm not saying you're wrong, but you have to take into account the number of people grinding at each spot. On all three servers I've been on, there have been a lot more people grinding at mages vs generals. Of course more people = more chance of sun being found.
I was trying to make that point T_T. Hens me saying the ratio of mages to dropped sun is a lot higher than anywhere else.
I agree, but Crumpets why do you keep ignoring me, all I want is to buy that sword and you arn't responding to any of my messages.
Allready pm'd u ingame on Scones bout it T_T.
TwelveEleven wrote:
Then heroo's info isn't ludacris after all..
Errr >.<
not recently, did you sell to someone else or something. I only remember talking to you on Scones once >.<. If your not selling any more plz tell me? I really need to know if you are and I really need the sword. I have had the gold for the past week to buy but if I wait much longer the cost of pots will drain the gold I have slowly
Thanks
and to stay on topic, I see more people grinding on snipers and hunters than mages, although I grind on mages no sosun yet
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:17 pm
by Crumpets
4-n-zics wrote:Is that actually true or do more people grind on mages then anything else in Takla? Has anyone taken in consideration the number of people that grind on Mages and compared that number to the number of those that grind on any thing else and compared the number or SoSun drops?
If you have 100 people grinding on Mages and there are 50 SoSun drops that is a 1:2 drop per person ratio (50%). If there are 10 people grinding anything else and there are 9 SoSun drops the ratio is 9:10 (90 drops for every 100 people), which is a much higher drop rate (90%). These numbers are just examples, but seeing as how everyone says that Mages drop more SoSuns then the more people that will grind Mages, which means more total SoSun drops, but does not necessarily mean a higher drop rate.
Theres like .. 4x as many snipers as mages. Yet from experience and asking where suns got dropped, I can safely say mages drop the most.
Re: Sun drops & Mobs
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:18 pm
by sunmoon
Sparky101 wrote:Hey,
I'm 79 farming on mages at the moment, but they seem to be so botted up, it really drives me nuts trying to zip all over the place just to find a mob to kill.
I'm thinking of moving to royal gaurds/generals since they seem to be botted up mostly by str bots, and them, at least I can ks as a pure int with an good armor set granted I don't get a block.
My problem is, I already had a sun drop at mages....armor head, and had a sun spear ks'd from me by a 80 24/7 botter hybrid int w/zerk...jerk. So I would rather still have better chances at sun drops over a less stressful place to grind.
Do gaurds and generals still give you a fair shot at sun? I know anything above 70 has the chance of dropping sun, but some mobs just seem to give better odds.
Anyone here know of sun dropped by generals, or had one drop themselves?
Thanx for the help in advance.
Sparky101..legit n feeling dumb about it sometimes.
ur 79...so niya guards should still be green to you & yes, they can drop sun just as any other higher lvl mobs (got a sun shoulder from them & a friend got a sun chest), not to mention they still drop tabs & have a higher drop rate then mages/generals...& it's not as crowded as mages/generals
friend drop a sun shield at mages
friend drop a sun garm head at generals
srry, i wont tell u my secret niya guard grinding spot
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:37 pm
by crazy_foo
Crumpets wrote:4-n-zics wrote:Is that actually true or do more people grind on mages then anything else in Takla? Has anyone taken in consideration the number of people that grind on Mages and compared that number to the number of those that grind on any thing else and compared the number or SoSun drops?
If you have 100 people grinding on Mages and there are 50 SoSun drops that is a 1:2 drop per person ratio (50%). If there are 10 people grinding anything else and there are 9 SoSun drops the ratio is 9:10 (90 drops for every 100 people), which is a much higher drop rate (90%). These numbers are just examples, but seeing as how everyone says that Mages drop more SoSuns then the more people that will grind Mages, which means more total SoSun drops, but does not necessarily mean a higher drop rate.
Theres like .. 4x as many snipers as mages. Yet from experience and asking where suns got dropped, I can safely say mages drop the most.
ok but just answer yes or no. Are you still selling the sword?
I have got lvl 66 sun boots from the bone soldiers
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:04 pm
by GaS
From what I've seen I see more people grinding on snipers and hunters. From what most people (who have Sosun) have told me, they have gotten sosuns from mages and shamans.
A lot more people will grind snipers and hunter because of the tab drops. I have yet to get a tab from a higher level mob then a Niya hunter.
Mage Ornament are about the only good common drop
.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:43 pm
by HBblade
GaS wrote:From what I've seen I see more people grinding on snipers and hunters. From what most people (who have Sosun) have told me, they have gotten sosuns from mages and shamans.
A lot more people will grind snipers and hunter because of the tab drops. I have yet to get a tab from a higher level mob then a Niya hunter.
Mage Ornament are about the only good common drop
.
FYI, niya hunters do not drop 8d tabs, only niya snipers...& if there was a lvl 75 mob (which there isn't atm), only up to lvl 75 mob will drop 8d tab (niya sniper is lvl 74 mob)
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:44 pm
by daddy
heroo wrote:Official SUN drop guide
Which monsters drop the most SUN ?
RANDOM
What kind of SUN they drop ?
RANDOM
Which place should I grind to get a SUN drop ?
RANDOM
SUMMARY
STICKY PLEASE!!!
ALL THE F*CKING SUN DROPS ARE F*CKING RANDOM, SO PLEASE JUST GRIND AND CROSS YOUR FINGERS!
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:50 pm
by Sharp324
Crumpets wrote:Gul wrote:Crumpets wrote:It's a well known fact mages drop the most sun. Amount of mages + amount of dropped sun is FAR better than amount of snipers + amount of sun found.
Sun does get dropped to at Niya generals, but on very rare occasions ...
I'm not saying you're wrong, but you have to take into account the number of people grinding at each spot. On all three servers I've been on, there have been a lot more people grinding at mages vs generals. Of course more people = more chance of sun being found.
I was trying to make that point T_T. Hens me saying the ratio of mages to dropped sun is a lot higher than anywhere else.
I can back him up on this on another thread he made a big post explaining XD. So with this reasoning...since no1 is grinding on say devil eyes is why we have so few SOM?