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A quick question regarding farming
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:46 pm
by sroaddict
Hi guys,
I have a full int char, lvl 20 delvl to 16. All my garment and jewelry is max int (missing 2 int on the bow) My magical balance is 120%. I have sun bow 16 + 5. But I can't one shot without imbue bandit archer.
Any of the current farmer, ex farmer out there know what it takes to one shot bandit archer without imbue?
I am thinking of leveling up to 30 then delvl back to 16 and that should do it. However, I have no idea, I don't want to lvl all the way up to 30 then find out it still won't do it

Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:48 pm
by Necro-Mage
Well of course you can't one shot them cause you're pure int, not strength so that means all your attack power comes from your imbue.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:49 pm
by sroaddict
Doh...so there is no way I can one shot them without imbue

???
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:50 pm
by Necro-Mage
Don't think so, but why wouldn't you want to use your imbue?
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:52 pm
by MrFudge
probably cuz its annoying to use imbue all the time.
so point and click is easy.
to make use of that sun bow if u wanna 1 hit them without imbue you'd need to be pure str (as already stated).
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:56 pm
by Rainigul
Make a new character that is pure str.
If you don't want to have a pure str though, then you'll just have to use imbue, otherwise you're gonna have to level up to 80 then delevel first, lol.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:59 pm
by sroaddict
Necro-Mage, like MrFudge said I'd like to just point and click....
MrFudge, OMG, really!

my other char was full str but i could not afford sun bow when farming...now I have sun bow and I still can't point and click because now this char is full int
man, I am so disappointed

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:03 am
by HBblade
sroaddict wrote:Necro-Mage, like MrFudge said I'd like to just point and click....
MrFudge, OMG, really!

my other char was full str but i could not afford sun bow when farming...now I have sun bow and I still can't point and click because now this char is full int
man, I am so disappointed

with a sosun lvl 16+5 bow you might as well go grind on something better ^^, cuz it's overkill on a bandit archer, XD
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:13 am
by StealMySoda
Even if you leveled to 80 and back, as your a pure int, you would still do the same damage on them without imbue. As the 1 str point you get automatically from each level would be removed when you delevel.
Either start a Pure Str char, or use your imbue XD
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:19 am
by sroaddict
thanks for all the replies guys. I guess....WTS SUN bow

Man, this sucks...I guess i keep this bow until I need the gold...
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:24 am
by StealMySoda
sroaddict wrote:thanks for all the replies guys. I guess....WTS SUN bow

Man, this sucks...I guess i keep this bow until I need the gold...
Wow don't you just use imbue? lololol. Get it to level 7.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:26 am
by 13g
guess what, dont farm at lvl 16, its pointless, less farming, more fun.
anyways its easier to kill mobs at higher levels, and you get more skill xp anyways, im lvl 42, and can fight lvl 50 things, and kill them in 2-3 hits, and i get like 190 skill xp with a 0 lvl gap, you may get more at lvl 16, but you have no skills and its very boring, farming like 5k is good for pure str i guess, and like mabye 8-10k for pure int, i never farmed, but i will at like lvl 64, i mean i dont have lots of skill points buyt farming at low lvl is kinda pointless, so take my adivice, and just stop farming, and go lvl, then farm at 52,64,or 72, its alot easier =)
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:34 am
by MrFudge
by selling that sun bow you should have more than enough gold to efficiently farm at lvl 64.
i farmed 23k at lvl 16 and im lvl 57 right now with lvl 57 pacheon, 50 fire, 45 light.
at 64 ill drop pacheon to 55 and farm. =)
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:36 am
by 13g
ya, im lvl 42, and glavie is lvl 42, fire is 28, lighting 26, and blade 26, im only lvling up glavie at the moment, and why 9 lvl gap, i think its not worth it, so im doing a 7 lvl gap
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:41 am
by Rainigul
StealMySoda wrote:Even if you leveled to 80 and back, as your a pure int, you would still do the same damage on them without imbue. As the 1 str point you get automatically from each level would be removed when you delevel.
Either start a Pure Str char, or use your imbue XD
You're not serious, are you? Do you even play this game?
Deleveling doesn't get rid of int or str points...
Also, 13g is wrong. Farming makes the game WAY more fun. Being able to 0 gap and still be perfectly farmed is just awesome.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:44 am
by 13g
ya but farming takes forever, unless you have no life, and sit on the computer 24/7
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:45 am
by StealMySoda
[SD]Rainigul wrote:StealMySoda wrote:Even if you leveled to 80 and back, as your a pure int, you would still do the same damage on them without imbue. As the 1 str point you get automatically from each level would be removed when you delevel.
Either start a Pure Str char, or use your imbue XD
You're not serious, are you? Do you even play this game?
Deleveling doesn't get rid of int or str points...
Also, 13g is wrong. Farming makes the game WAY more fun. Being able to 0 gap and still be perfectly farmed is just awesome.
You would keep the INT 3 points you locate every level, yes. But...thats not what affects his phys dmg (ie non imbue). However you do lose the 1 INT and 1 STR point you get automatically distributed each level. Think before you say something stupid

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:54 am
by sroaddict
StealmySoda, hehe, I do have imbue man...i just don't want to use it since it slow thing down so much...
13g, thanks for the advice but I'd like to farm at 16...it is the most efficient. You use much less gold for repair, pots...bandit archer drop wind 1 and 2, and fire 2...the one thing that sucks the most for farming at 16 is the delvl once u gain a lvl...but with the skill ticket it won't matter much anymore...
MrFudge, I actually really don't like farming at any other lvl than 16 for my full str char...my full str char gets to lvl 67 so I've experiemented with the ice, takla, the cave...I heard lot of different opinion for farming for full int at the ice or the cave...however for now i want to see how far i'd go at the den...
Rainigul, yes, you're right, you keep 1 int, 1 str per lvl even if u delvl...do you know anyone that actually delvl from 30 to 16 full int per my original question? Do you think i should attempt it and see

...lvl up to 30 is not hard but delvl all those masteries would cost quite some gold

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:59 am
by 13g
sroaddict wrote:StealmySoda, hehe, I do have imbue man...i just don't want to use it since it slow thing down so much...
13g, thanks for the advice but I'd like to farm at 16...it is the most efficient. You use much less gold for repair, pots...bandit archer drop wind 1 and 2, and fire 2...the one thing that sucks the most for farming at 16 is the delvl once u gain a lvl...but with the skill ticket it won't matter much anymore...
MrFudge, I actually really don't like farming at any other lvl than 16 for my full str char...my full str char gets to lvl 67 so I've experiemented with the ice, takla, the cave...I heard lot of different opinion for farming for full int at the ice or the cave...however for now i want to see how far i'd go at the den...
Rainigul, yes, you're right, you keep 1 int, 1 str per lvl even if u delvl...do you know anyone that actually delvl from 30 to 16 full int per my original question? Do you think i should attempt it and see

...lvl up to 30 is not hard but delvl all those masteries would cost quite some gold

the thing is with me, im very impacient, and i like to level faster, so i dont like to farm, im very impatient, so ya, i really dont like to farm

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:02 am
by Belgarath
Rainigul is right. Farming at an early level is way more efficient. Like he said, being able to 0-gap to the 64 or higher would be great. The bandit spawn is just to awesome to resist when it comes to farming. To the thread starter: As stated before, you should move on to higher mobs. I would suggest Chakjis, Devil Bugs, or even Hyungnos. If you can 2 hit them and get 2x sp, then you are in good shape.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:06 am
by StealMySoda
sroaddict wrote:StealmySoda, hehe, I do have imbue man...i just don't want to use it since it slow thing down so much...
13g, thanks for the advice but I'd like to farm at 16...it is the most efficient. You use much less gold for repair, pots...bandit archer drop wind 1 and 2, and fire 2...the one thing that sucks the most for farming at 16 is the delvl once u gain a lvl...but with the skill ticket it won't matter much anymore...
MrFudge, I actually really don't like farming at any other lvl than 16 for my full str char...my full str char gets to lvl 67 so I've experiemented with the ice, takla, the cave...I heard lot of different opinion for farming for full int at the ice or the cave...however for now i want to see how far i'd go at the den...
Rainigul, yes, you're right, you keep 1 int, 1 str per lvl even if u delvl...do you know anyone that actually delvl from 30 to 16 full int per my original question? Do you think i should attempt it and see

...lvl up to 30 is not hard but delvl all those masteries would cost quite some gold

Now I'm confused. I thought you only kept points you distributed? *shrug* Oh well, can't always be right

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:32 am
by MrFudge
im almost 100% sure you lose the 1 int and 1 str you get from lvling.
my HP dropped wayy to much when i delvled from 25>>>>16
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:44 am
by EvilDiablo
yeah, i could have sworn that u lose the automatically dist. points when u delvl
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:45 am
by StealMySoda
Score. I'm not crazy xD
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:02 am
by Kitt
13g wrote:guess what, dont farm at lvl 16, its pointless, less farming, more fun.
anyways its easier to kill mobs at higher levels, and you get more skill xp anyways, im lvl 42, and can fight lvl 50 things, and kill them in 2-3 hits, and i get like 190 skill xp with a 0 lvl gap, you may get more at lvl 16, but you have no skills and its very boring, farming like 5k is good for pure str i guess, and like mabye 8-10k for pure int, i never farmed, but i will at like lvl 64, i mean i dont have lots of skill points buyt farming at low lvl is kinda pointless, so take my adivice, and just stop farming, and go lvl, then farm at 52,64,or 72, its alot easier =)
Since you never farmed at 16 you don't know that it isn't pointless, seeing how with 9 gap at 16 I get 1-2 sp not SKILL EXP but 1-2 SP per kill (which is over 800 skill exp) farming early on is not really much different than grinding or questing... if you get bored grind other things, no where does it say you have to grind on the same thing to sp farm.... we farmed devil bugs , demon horses and w/e else that was around getting 1-2 per kill sometimes even more the nice thing about being farmed is once you close your gap you can shoot right up with a 0 gap all the way which is much nicer than lvling with a gap ~_~ I've done both and lvling with a gap is a pain :| altho I might lvl my nukker to 42 and farm at 42 for a while or i could farm at 16 with a sosun +5 bow 1 hitting archers ~_~ or use lvl 16+5 sos blade and kill devil bugs ~_~.... people make farming sound worse than it really is~ I will admit it isn't the best thing in the world but the work pays off in the end thats for sure ^_^.
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:06 am
by MrFudge
strange cuz at lvl 16 farming on archers i used to only get .7 of an SP per kill.
and bandits barely gave me over 1 sp per kill.
this all with gold ticket.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:20 pm
by sroaddict
Man, you guys make me confuse hehe...I remember a lots of people tell me before that you retain your 1 int, 1 str when you delvl. I never check it out so now I check my char and get confuse on the int part
Ok, so my char was lvl 20 and I delvl to 16. She is a full int, i put all int to her in every lvl. Here is her naked stat:
STR: 39
INT: 96
the STR part makes sense since at lvl 1 the char has 20 STR and 20 INT.
So,
20 + 16 = 36 STR + 3 (left over from lvl 17,18,19) = 39 STR
I have no clue how i have 96 INT
MrFudge, you are right. In full 4 person party, you would get 139 skill points per bandit archer kill, 278 with GT thus make it 0.695 SP per archer kill.
Thanks for all the reply guys. I think I will try to lvl up to 32 and dlvl and see if I can one shot without imbue. I will get back with findings

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:25 pm
by brentonsbbe359
Necro-Mage wrote:Well of course you can't one shot them cause you're pure int, not strength so that means all your attack power comes from your imbue.
ints do more dmg even in phy attacks i have tested it... they are more dmg all total
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:45 pm
by StealMySoda
sroaddict wrote:Man, you guys make me confuse hehe...I remember a lots of people tell me before that you retain your 1 int, 1 str when you delvl. I never check it out so now I check my char and get confuse on the int part
Ok, so my char was lvl 20 and I delvl to 16. She is a full int, i put all int to her in every lvl. Here is her naked stat:
STR: 39
INT: 96
the STR part makes sense since at lvl 1 the char has 20 STR and 20 INT.
So,
20 + 16 = 36 STR + 3 (left over from lvl 17,18,19) = 39 STR
I have no clue how i have 96 INT
MrFudge, you are right. In full 4 person party, you would get 139 skill points per bandit archer kill, 278 with GT thus make it 0.695 SP per archer kill.
Thanks for all the reply guys. I think I will try to lvl up to 32 and dlvl and see if I can one shot without imbue. I will get back with findings

Maybe you have 3 STR on your gear?
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:50 pm
by sroaddict
no, I was completely naked...ok not me, my char

she does not have anything on.