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Why are Hybrid bladers really bad?
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:51 am
by i_luv_bball
Wat r so bad bout hybrid bladers?
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:52 am
by Deacon
Not being pure = bad ( people think )
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:54 am
by Hawkster
hybrids are some of the best ^^
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:55 am
by i_luv_bball
i agree All for dat
People say blader hybrids r awfal y? they r pretty good 2 my opinion
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:39 am
by ElMejorGlavie
How can a low hitting lower hp blader be any good?
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:52 am
by Deacon
ElMejorGlavie wrote:How can a low hitting lower hp blader be any good?
More imbue damage? ( cuz more mag attack? )
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:54 am
by i_luv_bball
how bout str hybrid? Still good hp
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:55 am
by vindicated01
hybrid not good but semi hybrid is good!!
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:58 am
by i_luv_bball
hectis is my semi hybrid good
96% physical balance
63% magical balance
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:58 am
by ping_lo
Trick is this bladers are made to tank. If you reduce their HP they can't tank as well. Now to a small extent a limited investment in int will make your imbues hit harder and for a time will increase total damage. But the difference you can safely make without severely imparing your ability to tank is not that significant. To much int and you will be weaker over all. So being mildly hybrid is not a bad thing. But pure works and is proven.
Just remember the point of a blader. You are not going to go out owning everyone. Then again they will not own you either if you play it right. Bladers are one of the better support builds. Put em out on the front lines to take the hits while the nukers nuke. Or even hang with higher level glaives and lend that last bit of killing power they can't quite muster.

You can't keep a good blader down. Not while you are lying on the ground.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:06 am
by x_CodeZero_x
ping_lo wrote:Trick is this bladers are made to tank. If you reduce their HP they can't tank as well. Now to a small extent a limited investment in int will make your imbues hit harder and for a time will increase total damage. But the difference you can safely make without severely imparing your ability to tank is not that significant. To much int and you will be weaker over all. So being mildly hybrid is not a bad thing. But pure works and is proven.
Just remember the point of a blader. You are not going to go out owning everyone. Then again they will not own you either if you play it right. Bladers are one of the better support builds. Put em out on the front lines to take the hits while the nukers nuke. Or even hang with higher level glaives and lend that last bit of killing power they can't quite muster.

You can't keep a good blader down. Not while you are lying on the ground.
+1
<3 Ping

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:22 am
by i_luv_bball
i hear 1:1 hybrid r pretty good, i tink wat u guys think?
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:51 am
by Failed
Every build can be good. But if you go hybrid, you must farm a lot and have good equipment =)
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:57 am
by XemnasXD
x_CodeZero_x wrote:ping_lo wrote:Trick is this bladers are made to tank. If you reduce their HP they can't tank as well. Now to a small extent a limited investment in int will make your imbues hit harder and for a time will increase total damage. But the difference you can safely make without severely imparing your ability to tank is not that significant. To much int and you will be weaker over all. So being mildly hybrid is not a bad thing. But pure works and is proven.
Just remember the point of a blader. You are not going to go out owning everyone. Then again they will not own you either if you play it right. Bladers are one of the better support builds. Put em out on the front lines to take the hits while the nukers nuke. Or even hang with higher level glaives and lend that last bit of killing power they can't quite muster.

You can't keep a good blader down. Not while you are lying on the ground.
+1
<3 Ping

+2 not to mention that since bladers mostly use physical adding points into int will make you your combos and stuff weaker than someone who put most of there into int. Bladers a low damage build aas it is hybriding them only makes it lower.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:15 am
by WoLfFy
1:1 hybbrids arent as good as 2:1 hybrids cuz most bladers dnt really need to tank alot cuz they can block, BUT they still need to hit alot so 2:1 bladers are the best since they tank and hit alot ............
i would prefer heavy hybrid cuz its the best for bladers heavy hybrids for those of you who dnt kno wat they re (from lvl 1-20 all str or int and from lvl 20+ 2:1 for int or str)
these are just opinions so dnt get upset =]
Theory
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:18 am
by Wizard_EG
The Blader Theory :
Blader are made to be team players
They are the worst for solo missions
a perfect blader would have (bacheon+ice+force)
a blader is a must in guild wars & in high level uniques kills
For a nuker a perfect team would be a blader that knows res & force than a glavier [/b]
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:29 am
by Lixiae
bladers have to crit to kill. Hybrid bladers = weaker crit. Combine that with less hp = they cant tank as well. Thats why they are bad.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:37 am
by YangKang
it is possible to do a 100% phy and 60~mag% compare
whats better
111%phy and 43% mag?
or
100%phy and 60%mag
its still ure choice but if you go hybrid put 30-60 points in INT you may use this site
http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Build_Applet/ im sure it will help you building your char
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:02 pm
by Waisha
str dmg = crits
pure str crits > hybrid crits
pure str dmg > hybrid dmg
pure str hp/def > hybrid hp/def
--> pure str > hybrid str.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:10 pm
by Key-J
Man Hybrids are so much better. Get your build right and you get the best of both worlds.
A high HP and high Attk Sword user, with killer Chains and mag attacks.
I myself am a Hybrid/INT/Sword&Shield Ice User, wearing Protector.
I mean, check this SS out. It was when i was a much lower LVL, and check the Aurmour Nunjur0 was wearing, like in his HIGH 3X possible 4X.
O, and incase you were wondering. No Rimmer did not help, he just took care of the noob next to him, and yes he did have Universall pills
HYBRID FTW!
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:12 pm
by THE_ZUL
hybrid sword > hybrid blader
blader born to tank...hmm less hp and medium damage in hyb

..sumthin wrong happened
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:14 pm
by BrokenSaint
My friend had a build similar to yours. He went 1:1 until 40 then changed to pure str all the way. Then at lvl 52 he wooped this lvl 59 pure int s/s ass really bad. I was like "WAT THE FARK" He was even a freaken blader and I thought they dealt the shittiest damage especially as hybrid STR. All it took was a simple KD + Double Stab.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:14 pm
by [SD]Black_Snow
u gotta love int hybrids !!! im working on a 2:1 int spear and pure int sword/sheild both imo fun builds!!!
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:22 pm
by BrokenSaint
IMO, the best way to go hybrid would be 2:1 Int Hybrid Spear. Very well-balanced.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:29 pm
by Key-J
I think Hybrids were made for Sword Users. I mean, if go Nuker, then just go for the most Mag attack. So spear is best way to go.
But Hybrid is best for Sword, cuz you get both worlds.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:01 pm
by Crumpets
Or an int archer .. look at liquidsmooth's dmg. He's by FAR hardest hitter recorded in the game .....
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:06 pm
by IceCrash
Key-J wrote:Man Hybrids are so much better. Get your build right and you get the best of both worlds.
A high HP and high Attk Sword user, with killer Chains and mag attacks.
I myself am a Hybrid/INT/Sword&Shield Ice User, wearing Protector.
I mean, check this SS out. It was when i was a much lower LVL, and check the Aurmour Nunjur0 was wearing, like in his HIGH 3X possible 4X.

O, and incase you were wondering. No Rimmer did not help, he just took care of the noob next to him, and yes he did have Universall pills
HYBRID FTW!
ok key-j, get to , lets say 52+, and you'll get raped by two nukes, im 85% sure :S
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:09 pm
by Fly
hybrid blade has almost no damage increase over a pure blade, there is an increase, but its not noticable at all. but what you give up IS noticeable. That is the HP and the crits. Blade can not kill anything without crits. Give up your crits and your skrewed. The HP does not really matter since you wont ever use all of it anyways.
Hybrid sword tho is a good build. They are crap until they get alchemy, then with alchemy they have a huge damage bonus to both sides of the ballance. There knockdowns and stabs hurt

Re: Theory
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:11 pm
by Airbeat
Wizard_EG wrote:The Blader Theory :
Blader are made to be team players
They are the worst for solo missions
a perfect blader would have (bacheon+ice+force)
a blader is a must in guild wars & in high level uniques kills
For a nuker a perfect team would be a blader that knows res & force than a glavier [/b]
Ice bladers will never kill anything
I could tank a Pure str ice blader , he was same lvl as me, and fully farmed (which im not), and im pure int spear/sword+shield.
If he attacked me, i could stand there, with full hp.
But its kinda hard to kill them too though
Always get frozen. And the pills is slow -_-"
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:15 pm
by [SD]Black_Snow
in my way of thinging i think pure int would be good for sword/sheild as the sheidl can give you a good defence with the low hp
with a spear i think hybrid would be better as you have no sheild to defend you have to extra hp to live a bit longer..
thats my way of thinging just logica imo o.O