Does alani4 have the right to the caves just wondering

bigmachini · Post by **bigmachini** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:41 am

does a high lvl have teh right to ks a low levell in the cave because hw wants a room to himself? screenshots coming shortly

[SK]Paddo · Post by **[SK]Paddo** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:44 am

he doenst. its just alani4, lol. he tried same on me, took him a while to realize that its possible to 1hit nachals ~lv 66 without a sos set like his.

bigmachini · Post by **bigmachini** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:46 am

i can't one hit them he takes all my giant and most of my kill ain't this disturbance of peace in teh game for a common user? lol. soon i will one hit them i wonder what he wil do maybe kill me

Black_Mamba · Post by **Black_Mamba** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:51 am

That's why the cave sucks, it was never designed to hold a population like ours. Your better off grinding in the desert. It's not like any 60+ quests give any decent rewards anyway, what's 5% lol you can grind that in 15 minutes.

phulshof · Post by **phulshof** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:19 pm

Hmm, my opinion would depend on who was in that room first. I too get slightly agitated when people insist on crowding the rooms. Some rooms can easily be cleaned out by 1 person, while others can hold 4 quite comfortably. If I enter a room that's already up to its capacity I will leave, but I also expect the same courtesy from others, and can get quite nasty when that does not happen.

EwwBabel · Post by **EwwBabel** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:32 pm

he is newb.

[SK]Paddo · Post by **[SK]Paddo** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:38 pm

alania is one of the ignorants who dont care about capacity. ive been farming in the last nachal room for more than 2 months, and i saw him coming in quite often. even if all 4 corners were filled up with nukers, he kept speeding around like mad, ksing.

its not that i only want to blame him, many ppl do so. but if you realize that the room is __FULL__, then just go to the other side. if its same there, go and have some fun in the desert.

woutR · Post by **woutR** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:41 pm

Black_Mamba wrote:That's why the cave sucks, it was never designed to hold a population like ours. Your better off grinding in the desert. It's not like any 60+ quests give any decent rewards anyway, what's 5% lol you can grind that in 15 minutes.

Yea I like to see you make 5% in 15 minutes at lv 60.

voltis5 · Post by **voltis5** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:46 pm

Black_Mamba wrote:what's 5% lol you can grind that in 15 minutes.

ORLY!!!! care to give me a tip on how to do this?

MrH · Post by **MrH** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:55 pm

5% at level 67 took me about 40-50mins.

Wu · Post by Wu » Tue May 22, 2007 7:52 pm

Black_Mamba wrote:what's 5% lol you can grind that in 15 minutes.

I envy you for doing that /sarcasm

It takes an hour for me as a blader to gain 5% in lvl 6x

>____>

Erikutisnx · Post by **Erikutisnx** » Tue May 22, 2007 8:08 pm

He was in my union, and everyone hates him, he is fakin lucky bastard;///

sunmoon · Post by **sunmoon** » Tue May 22, 2007 8:50 pm

as long as some1 has the gear & build to be able to ks others, it's very legal, find another place to grind

& i also like to ks too ^^

Black_Mamba · Post by **Black_Mamba** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:27 pm

lol if you guys can't get 5% lvl 60 in 15 mins with a 0 gap your doing smt wrong, I did the whole level in about 6 hours with my GT.

But I was an int nuker with max skills, I guess that makes a difference.

Find something for 0.03 and one shot or nuke and lion it, it's only 166 monsters in 15 mins. Set them up right, don't do one at once or your bound to be slow. You should never use more than 1 nuke a monster, you should let the aoe effects finish the previous one of it's still alive.

tomiotar · Post by **tomiotar** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:51 pm

If you want to make good XP on nachals rooms just leave if there are 2 peoples already and return later and maybe you will find it like this:

look at minimap

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XP festival even at 73 if you 1-hit them

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ranger4life · Post by **ranger4life** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:51 pm

lol im lv 6x and i gain 10% every 1 hour and 15 mins

and im pure nuker
with sos spear and the best nuke skills i can use for this, i even ks botters who r too slow at killing them, and i can kill fast

i still dont know how u can get 5% in 15 mins

Post by **Rainigul** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:50 pm

Black_Mamba wrote:lol if you guys can't get 5% lvl 60 in 15 mins with a 0 gap your doing smt wrong, I did the whole level in about 6 hours with my GT.

But I was an int nuker with max skills, I guess that makes a difference.

Find something for 0.03 and one shot or nuke and lion it, it's only 166 monsters in 15 mins. Set them up right, don't do one at once or your bound to be slow. You should never use more than 1 nuke a monster, you should let the aoe effects finish the previous one of it's still alive.

At 6x, I don't think you can kill anything that's 0.03% per kill, and in only one hit? Yeah right!

Black_Mamba · Post by **Black_Mamba** » Tue May 22, 2007 11:07 pm

During the farming I was 1 shotting penons and planars for 1 sp each and I'd get roughly 2000 sp with my gt ticket which is more than 600 kills an hour, that's 150 kills every 15 minutes.

Even if you were grinding 0.02 monsters or 0.02 and a half there's still champions and giants to kill.

I'd finished my farming when I hit 60, I was full int with int 5 on everything I had on my sos set and I had a 60+5 spear, I could 1 shot yeti's easily and with a GT on, 0 gap, full party it was in between 0.02 and 0.03 a kill.

I did 60 - 70 in 20 days, mostly just doing the GT and then finishing off whatever pots I had left, usually 2 rounds of pots a day.

It's not that hard to do, unless your using a str build which obviously would took a lot longer.

StealMySoda · Post by **StealMySoda** » Tue May 22, 2007 11:29 pm

phulshof wrote:Hmm, my opinion would depend on who was in that room first. I too get slightly agitated when people insist on crowding the rooms. Some rooms can easily be cleaned out by 1 person, while others can hold 4 quite comfortably. If I enter a room that's already up to its capacity I will leave, but I also expect the same courtesy from others, and can get quite nasty when that does not happen.

+Infinity

When I was grinding on Yachas, If there was more than one person in 1 of the 4 rooms, I would wait until they left, even if that meant GT running out. However after I had waited over an hour or so in some occasions, to find someone just come in and start reducing the choice of mobs I have (slowing down my grinding) it would get very ugly.

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Tue May 22, 2007 11:30 pm

I loved the Yacha rooms; being a STR based build they did little to me, dropped well, and were easy. I was on them for about 6 levels until I noticed I was getting crap XP and moved out of the cave forever and into Taka. Taka blows; bots, bots, bots.

mirox · Post by **mirox** » Tue May 22, 2007 11:32 pm

lol first you said that you can get 5% in 15 minutes easy. Then in your next post you added that you had 0-gap, fully farmed skills and a GT.

5% in 15 minutes, 20% in 1 hour then. You do one lvl in 5 hours at lvl 6x. I doubt that.

mcnic · Post by **mcnic** » Tue May 22, 2007 11:40 pm

Yeah Yacha room is the best. Usually no one in there, so many drops, so small, no running forever to find them.

Black_Mamba · Post by **Black_Mamba** » Tue May 22, 2007 11:41 pm

Nodody had asked what build/gap I had so I thought I'd better throw it in to make sure.

I don't get what's so hard about it lol

Up until level 63 where the exp jumps dramatically, any int with a 0 gap should have no problem doing a level a day, 64 onwards you should be able to get 40-50% a day.

I'm not saying everyone could do it in that speed, it depends on your build, your gear, how you grind and what your grinding on. Unless you was pure int with a spear you wouldn't do it.

I'm not talking 6x as a whole either but certainly the first 3 or 4 levels of it.

And most importantly that's all with a GT, I used to skip a day and then do a six hour double instead.

legitz · Post by **legitz** » Wed May 23, 2007 12:30 am

Everyone has the right to KS others, its not a rule.

Cerus · Post by **Cerus** » Wed May 23, 2007 1:33 am

Black_Mamba wrote:During the farming I was 1 shotting penons and planars for 1 sp each and I'd get roughly 2000 sp with my gt ticket which is more than 600 kills an hour, that's 150 kills every 15 minutes.

Even if you were grinding 0.02 monsters or 0.02 and a half there's still champions and giants to kill.

I'd finished my farming when I hit 60, I was full int with int 5 on everything I had on my sos set and I had a 60+5 spear, I could 1 shot yeti's easily and with a GT on, 0 gap, full party it was in between 0.02 and 0.03 a kill.

I did 60 - 70 in 20 days, mostly just doing the GT and then finishing off whatever pots I had left, usually 2 rounds of pots a day.

It's not that hard to do, unless your using a str build which obviously would took a lot longer.

Ppl, a pure nuker with 0 gap CAN do that in lvl 60.
Farm your own nuker at lvl 16, then lvl with 0 gap.

PURE INT YOU CAN GET 5% in 15MINS

Build yourself a fully farmed pure INT and Try b4 you flame.

zZh4ku · Post by **zZh4ku** » Wed May 23, 2007 2:07 am

tomiotar wrote:If you want to make good XP on nachals rooms just leave if there are 2 peoples already and return later and maybe you will find it like this:

look at minimap .

XP festival even at 73 if you 1-hit them .

gt with pt?? i thought u have to finish your gt to get pt..?

EwwBabel · Post by **EwwBabel** » Wed May 23, 2007 6:06 pm

i did 1-70 in a month and a week in eldorado

justaskphil · Post by **justaskphil** » Wed May 23, 2007 7:59 pm

Not to single any player out, but no one has the right to ks, though we all have the ability to do so. It's a matter of common courtesy. I'm respectful of full rooms and move on or wait my turn, but I expect the same in return if I'm grinding. It's one thing when you've got cramped quarters and on occasion you attack the same mob as the person next to you - that's forgiven. It blows when someone comes along to blatantly set up shop and start ks'ing your mobs.

BlackFox · Post by **BlackFox** » Wed May 23, 2007 8:15 pm

All have the right to the caves. But high lvl not need to be there anymore when takla is open if they dont have any quest to do LOL ..But yea is hard to grind there, you know the room is not big enough for many ppl to be there .

Nyahgis · Post by **Nyahgis** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:47 pm

zZh4ku wrote:
gt with pt?? i thought u have to finish your gt to get pt..?

Is this a joke? Have you grinded to 6x and never pt'd while on a GT O.o? Bro, you have been missing out on an extra 10% exp and sp for a long time

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You can join a pt whether your GT is running or not. A 4 person party [distribution] means you'll get an additional 10% exp and sp and your GT timer will continue running. You'd thus get an extra 110%. On the other hand, if you enter an 8 person party [share], you won't gain any extra exp or sp nor will your gold ticket timer count down.

EDIT: wtf Atomic... You shame our guild with silly posts as this. Stop posting when you're high ^^.

OT: The ksing debate is ancient as SRO itself. I remember having a discussion in December of 2005 on Tavern how the giant ksing at the noob levels was total bullshit and how there should be some respect in allowing a person to 'claim' that giant as his/herself. In all honesty, the choice to KS is all yours. I prefer friendship and comradery over douchebagery and hating in this game as it gets you much further, but hell, back at the 70 cap, I happily ksed everybody in the nachal room. [There were times when there were 7~8 people in the final nachal room -.-]