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+ weapons
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:22 pm
by jichiong
hi guys,
I haven't done any alchemy at all. i got a nice sos bow lvl 24 and was hoping to +3 it. how many wep
elixirs on the average would it take?
also, i was thinking of adding int/str since i got some tabs on it. but not sure if it be worth it, meaning if i fail them and mess up the white stats. i play on persia, meaning if i would rather sell them to be able to afford better gears later on than fail/fail/succeed/fail.
tnx.
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:26 pm
by EllisD
There is no "average" number of elixirs \ stones it will take to enchant an item. Its ALL luck.
One day i +'d half of my gear to 4 first pop. Next day, i failed to +2 my chest 8 times in a row.
If you have the money, do it.
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:27 pm
by SextoEspada
it's just pure luck
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:31 pm
by jichiong
was afraid u'll all say that

but i know its true. same with finding sos i guess.
btw, do u always use lucky powder?
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:32 pm
by MastaChiefX
I dont use lucky powder for +1, and I do from there on.
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:39 pm
by jichiong
do u guys know the diff between no + with like +1/2/3? i haven't seen a + sos 24 bow in my server so i can't compare. i know that sos bows have higher stats that same lvl reg. bows.
also, i got a nice protector sos set (bought them for cheap) and was thinking of farming at lvl 24 with the sos bow. i can't afford a sos 16 so wasn't able to farm that much at bandit. my question is what is the best mobs to train at lvl 24? horses or hungyno (or watever) ghost becoz of the wind 2/4?
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:51 pm
by Silver0
MastaChiefX wrote:I dont use lucky powder for +1, and I do from there on.
tried it before i failed +1 =_= just use powder so you dont spend anothere 100-150k when you could of bought some cheap lucky powder
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:06 pm
by reader
why go for +3 when you could go for +4?
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:18 pm
by shoto
MastaChiefX wrote:I dont use lucky powder for +1, and I do from there on.
+1
except i always use luck on weapons since weapon elixirs cost a decent amount more than other elixirs.
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:58 pm
by Matrixman__
shoto wrote:MastaChiefX wrote:I dont use lucky powder for +1, and I do from there on.
+1
except i always use luck on weapons since weapon elixirs cost a decent amount more than other elixirs.
haha, i had some spare access elixirs, tried 8 of them on a item without lucky powder, ALL of them failed, but i free'd up some inventory room
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:58 pm
by Matrixman__
so ya, always use lucky powder!!!!
if it doesnt go +3 after like 5-10 tries, give up and sell it at +2
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:15 am
by desolator144
I estimate the odds decreasing at a rate of +1 to the denominator of the probability in fraction form....in other words +1 is 1:2 odds, +2 is 1:3 odds, +3 is 1:4 odds. And lucky powder seems to -1 from the denominator so +1 is 1:1 and +2 is 1:2 and +3 is 1:3 so the odds of getting straight from +0 to +3 with lucky powders is 1 in 6 but that doesn't translate clearly into a number of elixers since the odds stop twice during the 1 in 6 period.
In my experience though it takes about 10-15 elixers on average.
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:18 am
by HBblade
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:31 am
by desolator144
that's definitely correct because I +4ed two of my items and it took like 5 million and made me just about wanna pull my hair out
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:56 am
by shadowman20875
lets see, lowest = 3 and highest = idk... lets say... 21 soo. (3+21)/2=... didnt get this far in math yet
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:57 am
by Rainigul
Delete this, it's a double post!

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:58 am
by Rainigul
The first time I tried alchemy at lv 24, I had 24 shield elixirs, my shield was already +2.
By the end of all those elixirs, I had a +1 shield. it NEVER got to +3, I don't even think it got back to +2.
Later, at lv 52, I got all my gear to +2/3 in one try, none of it failed. I also blued all my stuff and got +100% int on most of my items.
Moral: Alchemy is just luck.
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:02 am
by StealMySoda
Silver0 wrote:MastaChiefX wrote:I dont use lucky powder for +1, and I do from there on.
tried it before i failed +1 =_= just use powder so you dont spend anothere 100-150k when you could of bought some cheap lucky powder
48 for a 8d lucky powder, is generally the same price as a acc/shield elixir, so your idea is flawed.
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:44 am
by Kill_4_FooD
id say it will take u about 5-8 weap elix and the int/str stones would be like 3-4 stones minimum just use 10% assim stones and u should be good
ps. u got me in ur sig xD
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:51 am
by Silver0
StealMySoda wrote:Silver0 wrote:MastaChiefX wrote:I dont use lucky powder for +1, and I do from there on.
tried it before i failed +1 =_= just use powder so you dont spend anothere 100-150k when you could of bought some cheap lucky powder
48 for a 8d lucky powder, is generally the same price as a acc/shield elixir, so your idea is flawed.
well if it fails you still pay it
Rainigul wrote:Delete this, it's a double post!

dude you should know how